WG: Port for portsu (port management utility)
Hello, may i ask someone with CVS-access to test and put www.dotlike.net/ddl/releases/portsu-0.1-port.tar.gz on CVS? Thanks a lot. David Rupprechter -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: david.rupprech...@dotlike.net Gesendet: Sonntag, 6. März 2011 20:26 An: ports@openbsd.org Betreff: AW: Port for portsu (port management utility) Sry the link was jumbled up... Here it is again: www.dotlike.net/ddl/releases/portsu-0.1-port.tar.gz -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: owner-po...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-po...@openbsd.org] Im Auftrag von david.rupprech...@dotlike.net Gesendet: Sonntag, 6. März 2011 20:07 An: ports@openbsd.org Betreff: Port for portsu (port management utility) Hello, as requested i have created a port for Portsu! Link: www.dotlike.net/ddl/releases/portsu-0.1-port.tar.gzhttp://www.dotlike.net/ddl/releases/portsu-0.1-port.tar.gz In the next weeks there will be some sourcecode-improvements. Because of Marc´s feedback the upcoming version of portsu will eventually use sqlports. Thanks for feedback!
Re: WG: Port for portsu (port management utility)
Hi David, may i ask someone with CVS-access to test and put www.dotlike.net/ddl/releases/portsu-0.1-port.tar.gz on CVS? I doubt that makes any sense. If functionality is missing in the standard tools, they should be improved. In fact, that happens all the time. I also doubt that auditing newbie code attempting to rewrite basic infrastructure is worth the time spent - time is better spent on small patches written with an understanding of what already exists. Wrappers are the wrong approach, or we will end up in the Debian corner with five tools, but not a single one of them feature-complete. Usability nightmares are likely to ensue. Yours, Ingo ... and regarding ports, now back to lurking ...
Re: WG: Port for portsu (port management utility)
On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 11:58:32AM +0100, david.rupprech...@dotlike.net wrote: Hello, may i ask someone with CVS-access to test and put www.dotlike.net/ddl/releases/portsu-0.1-port.tar.gz on CVS? Thanks a lot. Look, just because there is a bit of constructive criticism in my emails doesn't mean that I agree with what you're trying to do. First, I don't see any interesting features in your code. Second, you're writing a tool in a compiled language, something the basic infrastructure tries very hard to avoid, because it's so much simpler to have scripts you don't need to compile (and they're easier to look at). Also, your basic code is quite crappy. And rather long. And duplicates a lot of things we are doing. So, if you want to keep playing and improving your programming skills, and heck discovering a bit of OpenBSD by doing that stuff, that's fine. It's your time, and you can have fun with it. But don't have any expectations as far as getting stuff into the official tree. Ingo pointed out why tools that go in opposite direction to the official work are a very bad idea. That, and the current subpar quality of your code mean you're a long way away from contributing to the project. By all means, don't get discouraged and keep learning. I think it's nice that people experiment and try new stuff. Just don't expect your first attempts to be picked up.
Re: WG: Port for portsu (port management utility)
Hello, Well that ´s version 0.1 of the code. New features will be added in the next version. Please tell me if you have ideas for features which should be included in the next version. The code will be cleaned up and improved in the next weeks... I will come back with version 0.2 soon with cleaned up code and new features. Eventually portsu will then find a place in the official tree. Thanks -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: owner-po...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-po...@openbsd.org] Im Auftrag von Marc Espie Gesendet: Montag, 7. März 2011 12:49 An: ports@openbsd.org Betreff: Re: WG: Port for portsu (port management utility) On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 11:58:32AM +0100, david.rupprech...@dotlike.net wrote: Hello, may i ask someone with CVS-access to test and put www.dotlike.net/ddl/releases/portsu-0.1-port.tar.gz on CVS? Thanks a lot. Look, just because there is a bit of constructive criticism in my emails doesn't mean that I agree with what you're trying to do. First, I don't see any interesting features in your code. Second, you're writing a tool in a compiled language, something the basic infrastructure tries very hard to avoid, because it's so much simpler to have scripts you don't need to compile (and they're easier to look at). Also, your basic code is quite crappy. And rather long. And duplicates a lot of things we are doing. So, if you want to keep playing and improving your programming skills, and heck discovering a bit of OpenBSD by doing that stuff, that's fine. It's your time, and you can have fun with it. But don't have any expectations as far as getting stuff into the official tree. Ingo pointed out why tools that go in opposite direction to the official work are a very bad idea. That, and the current subpar quality of your code mean you're a long way away from contributing to the project. By all means, don't get discouraged and keep learning. I think it's nice that people experiment and try new stuff. Just don't expect your first attempts to be picked up.