Re: Janie Grey
Umm...no.just...uh..curious... Hahahahaaahaaahha Jeff you old kidder... O At 01:00 PM 3/25/99 -0800, you wrote: Hey all: Anyone out there heard of a band called Janie Grey? If so, what's their style? I have a desperate need to pigeonhole... Sounds like you got a gig with them and are trying to figure out what you've gotten yourself into. Jam band, perhaps? Jeff Miles of Music mail order http://www.milesofmusic.com FREE printed Catalog: (818) 883-9975 fax: (818) 992-8302, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alt-Country, rockabilly, bluegrass, folk, power pop and tons more. Owen Bly Ranchero Records Oakland, CA
Re: Janie Grey
Thanks Rob! O Owen -- Janie Grey are sort of in the "jam band" style, although I hear from our bass player (who has jammed mucho with their bass player) that JG shouldn't be dismissed so easily ... they do Basement Tapes era Dylan covers, so they *might* qualify as Americana? I don't know -- although they come around here all of the time, I've never had a chance to hear them, since I'm usually working/playing on weekend nights, or trying to catch up on my sleep! They have a CD or two out on the Murfreesboro-based Big World indie; haven't heard these either. They've got a pretty big following in this area -- all the dead-head kids love 'em! They're originally from Chattanooga, I think, although they're keyboard player's from Bristol or Abingdon, VA. Rob Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 13:00:12 -0800 From: Owen Bly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Janie Grey To:passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey all: Anyone out there heard of a band called Janie Grey? If so, what's their style? I have a desperate need to pigeonhole... Thanks Owen Owen Bly Ranchero Records Oakland, CA ___ Robert A. Russell Director, Writing and Communication Center East Tennessee State University Box 70602 Johnson City, TN 37614 Phone: (423) 439-8438 Fax: (423) 439-8666 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.etsu.edu/wcc *** "Objective evidence and certitude are doubtless very fine ideals to play with but where on this moonlit and dream-visited planet are they found?" -- William James, 1842-1910, "The Will to Believe"
Janie Grey
Hey all: Anyone out there heard of a band called Janie Grey? If so, what's their style? I have a desperate need to pigeonhole... Thanks Owen Owen Bly Ranchero Records Oakland, CA
Final Red Meat tourdates
Hello all you country music loving carpal tunnel victims! The dust has settled, and here's where Red Meat will be on tour in April, plus a couple of local SF bonus dates for those lucky enough to live in the Bay Area: 3/26 SF, CA Paradise Lounge w/ James Intveld 3/27 Sacramento, CA Harlow's w/ James Intveld 4/6 Nashville, TN Exit/In (Billy Block's Western Beat Radio) 4/7 Nashville, TN Robert's Western Wear 4/8 Chicago, IL The Hideout (Honky Tonk Living Room w/ Chris Mills) 4/9 Keokuk, IA In-store at the Disc Jockey Record Store (5 pm) 4/9 Keokuk, IA Myers Courtyard (9 pm) w/ Bluezillion 4/10 St. Louis, MO Blueberry Hill w/ Big Smith and Rockhouse Ramblers 4/11 Nashville, TN Douglas Corner Cafe 4/13 Lexington, KY Lynagh's 4/14 Louisville, KY Mercury Paw 4/15 Atlanta, GA Star Community Bar w/ Ex-Husbands 4/16 Chapel Hill, NC Local 506 and, waaay in the future: 7/21 Solano County Fair, Vallejo, CA w/ Chris LeDoux Thanks... Hope to see some of you Southerners and Midwesterners on our trip. I'm traveling with the band, so come on out and say hi! Owen Owen Bly Ranchero Records Oakland, CA
Twangfest motel
Hey what's the name of that motel that everybody stays at in St. Louis for Twangfest? How much does it cost, etc.? Red Meat's playing in St. Louis on 4/10 and I gotta find 'em a place to live for the night. I figure either there or a clean, comfortable room at the 6, whichever's cheaper. That 4/10 show is with Big Smith and the Rockhouse Ramblers (Kip's band), so if you're in the area and looking for a good time, come on by Blueberry Hill! Thanks for yer lodging info... Owen Owen Bly Ranchero Records Oakland, CA
Red Meat in L.A. this weekend
If, like us, you're just too damn cool for sxsw... Red Meat will be playing in Los Angeles on Saturday night, March 20 at Jack's Sugar Shack in Hollywood. The fabulous Mark Linett will be recording us live, and we're playing two sets. Not too sure what we're going to do with the live recording yet, but when Mark Linett says he'd like to record you, it's a rare opportunity. So if you're in L.A. this weekend come on by and make some noise! Who knows, we could turn 'er into a live cd... Owen Owen Bly Ranchero Records Oakland, CA
Rob Russell
Sorry, everyone, for the intrusion...but could Rob Russell give me a holler offlist? Thanks! Owen Bly Ranchero Records Oakland, CA
Broken up and Blue
Servin' notice to all y'all that Red Meat's "Broken Up and Blue" is currently number 1 (that's numero UNO!) on the Panel Report's independent country singles chart... I just found out, and had to pound my chest a bit. Owen Bly (smilin', like Jim C) Ranchero Records Oakland, CA Owen Bly Ranchero Records Oakland, CA
re: cheap tickets
Jeff Tarhut wrote: priceline is horrible. those people are evil and they rob. III KNEW IT!! I've had some luck with cheaptickets.com. Powered by Sabre, easy to use. Drawback is a maximum of 4 passengers for their website. More than that and you have to phone your reservation in. Wow. What a drag... Owen Bly Ranchero Records Oakland, CA
Re: Bookstore gig question
Our experience with in-stores (record or book -- we've done both) is that they're really more of a promo for a bigger gig in the area, maybe later that night or the next day. As such, we generally don't get paid. Not officially, anyway. Usually the manager will slip each band member a nice gift certificate, which is genuinely appreciated... Generally it's a 25 - 30 minute set. Owen Okay, here's a question: I am now the proud part-owner of a very cool used bookshop. We want to do some in-store music thangs now and then. What I need to know is, how much do you guys out there charge for this sort of thing? Details are still being hashed out, but there seems to be two main kinds of gig we're talking about. One: inside the store, acoustic, probably weekday afternoons (the ever-popular "noon concert" is a possibility), maybe afternoon weekends. The other would definitely be weekends, outside the store, electric or acoustic, in tandem with other events by other stores. Little tiny mini-festival kinda deal. Summertime stuff. Besides a fee, you can of course bring your merch. Food is a likely possiblility -- just don't expect squirrel brains. Extra barter for books or records can be negotiated. We can set up a display of your CDs ahead of time with a promo poster and feature it on the "Now Playing" rack as often as we can stand. 8-) Etc. But, how much $$? And does the fee go up on weekends? Evenings? I've never done this before, so clue me in to what's standard, expected, etc. Lastly but not leastly, what about ASCAP fees? Thanks much, --Cheryl Cline P.S.: Check out the Diablo Books website at http://www.diablo-books.com P.P.S.: Check it out again next week after my "Odd Volumes" column starts!
Re: Bookstore gig question
Addendum to Brad's thoughtful post: Kara handles the instores at Amoeba SF... Rock on, Owen Cheryl, You might want to call up Amoeba Records in San Francisco and chat with Joe Goldmark, or whoever it is at the Amoeba Records who handles booking in-store appearances. They have showcased just in this month acts ranging from the Bad Livers to Phranc (The All-American Jewish Lesbian Folksinger) to Huun-Huur-Tu to Paula Frazer of Tarnation. (415) 831-1200 or http://www.amoebarecords.com/ - and congratulations on the new venture! -B "not quite a personal message to the list" B-
Re: Nine Inch Nails in my Coffin
According to some DJ on Q101 (Chicagos Rock Alternative) The next Trent Reznor CD is going to be all Hank Williams covers. The DJ wasnt as excited as I was. If I was not in my car I might've called him up and given him what's fur. God. Say it ain't so. Owen Bly Ranchero Records Oakland, CA
SF Local: Red Meat/Hollisters at Club Deluxe
This will be one hell of a show. Hollisters at 10, Red Meat at 11. Come early, as the Deluxe is small and will sell out. Club Deluxe is on Haight Street at Ashbury in San Francisco! Hope to see some of you SF'ers there. Owen Bly Ranchero Records Oakland, CA
addendum to SF local
Oh, by the way, this show happens Saturday night. Oops. This will be one hell of a show. Hollisters at 10, Red Meat at 11. Come early, as the Deluxe is small and will sell out. Club Deluxe is on Haight Street at Ashbury in San Francisco! Hope to see some of you SF'ers there. Owen Bly Ranchero Records Oakland, CA
Clip: Red Meat
No, I'm not above a little chest-thumping...
BAM Magazine, 2/12/99
FEATURE: Red Meat Is Rare and Well Done
by David John Farinella
(First appeared in BAM magazine, 2/12/99)
Jill Olson is breaking into a bit of an odd smile under her red felt
cowboy hat. She's leaning forward to watch Smelley Kelley, her Red Meat
bandmate, go up to the bar at the People's Cafe on Haight Street to order
his first ever latt*. For Smelley it's akin to a wholesale karmic shift in
his coffee culture awareness. "This is amazing," she confides in an amazed
whisper. A couple of minutes later Smelley's back at the table, latte in
hand. "I can identify one of them now, I've passed my latte identification
class," he says with a laugh. A few seconds later Scott Young, the band's
chief songwriter and multi-instrumentalist, sits down with his own double
espresso. Turns out that it's the quiet Scott (who even after a double
espresso is calm) who has acclimated a bit faster to the California
lifestyle.
While both Scott and Smelley come from the pig farming land of Keokuk,
Iowa-Smelley's term-the rest of Red Meat come from a variety of spots in
the United States, thus proving the point that anything that's a little
loose will eventually roll West. Bassist Olson is from Ottumwa, Iowa; Steve
Cornell, who adds pedal-steel guitar, is from New York; guitarist Michael
Montalto is from Ohio; and drummer Les James is a true Okie. "One of the
reasons we all moved here is that we're kind of weird in our hometowns,"
explains Olson. "I was, a lot," interjects Smelley.
Either way, they found themselves in San Francisco and started to play
in a number of local bands. From the Movie Stars to the Genuine Diamelles,
each band member was playing music that wasn't necessarily what they wanted
to do, which was country, honky tonk, western-or whatever you want to call
it. Of course, they had all known and admired each others work, but when
their respective band's broke up they knew it was time to do a country
band. "Me and Smelley were going to do a duet and I was thinking, 'Let's
have a city western band,'" explains Scott. "So, I wrote a bunch of songs
and then we booked our first gig. It was just the two of us, and Steve
Cornell, our old pedal-steel player said, 'Can I play with you guys?' We
said, 'Yeah, we're not worthy.'" Cornell, who knew Olson, then commented
out of the blue how great it would be if she could join them. The next day,
while Scott was at a local ATM he ran into Olson, and Red Meat was about to
be formed.
That was 1993 when San Francisco was still known for it's punk rock,
but the burgeoning band pushed on. They started out playing a handful of
originals from Scott's notebook, as well as some covers from some of their
musical heroes like George Jones, Johnny Paycheck, Stanley Brothers and
Buck Owens. Meet Red Meat, their debut album, came out in 1997 and was
written entirely by Scott. Their latest offering, 13, includes five Scott
originals as well as contributions by Cornell, Olson, Montalto and band
friend Chuck Poling, and a cover of Johnny Horton's "I'm a One Woman Man."
The album was produced by Dave Alvin, known for his own solo work and as
the man behind the Blasters. It's Scott, though, that seems to be the
creative force in the band. "The flavor of how Scott writes a honky-tonk
song and the way Scott spins a lyric that gives continuity between the
two," explains Smelley.
With a smile Scott explains his songwriting technique. "Sometimes when
I'm trying to write a song I make a list of topics. Trucking? Check.
Drinking? Check. Divorce? Check. I haven't done trains yet, but I've done
the dogs. That song is about whining dogs trying to get out of the house to
pee." Ah yes, classic country music fare. In fact, it's true that the band
has sung about everything from love to heartbreak ("The Heartache's On Me")
drinking to getting sober ("Teetotalin' Time"), and even a good old SM
song titled "Baby Beats Me the Best."
Though Scott and Smelley split the lead singing duties, with Olson
adding backgrounds here and there, it's Smelley that gets to sing "Baby
Beats Me the Best." "I like to do a disclaimer in the beginning [of that
song] because it was written from a masochist standpoint and I've always
been a sadist," he reports. "So, I have to adjust the audience's mind
before I do it. I say, 'This is an acting job and I'll be done acting in a
second.'"
Where the band is not acting, however, is in their ultimate love and
respect for country music. While other bands have to constantly justify
their indie credibility, Red Meat have found themselves at times justifying
their choice in musical styles. "I think we feel that way because we're
from San Francisco and people think San Francisco is the home of all these
weird wacky bands," says Olson. "How can you be a country band in San
Francisco? But, we're all from other places."
"So, we got this indigenous music anyhow, might as
Re: Railroad Jerk
God, I just hate stories like this... You musicians be careful while touring, OK? We kinda have an informal rule that we don't try to drive long distances right after we finish a gig; we just stay in town that night and do our driving the next day. Pushing too hard adds to the already considerable danger of driving so much; be sure to get yer sleep! I'm not familiar with Railroad Jerk, but obviously wish 'em a speedy recovery... Owen Bly Ranchero Records Oakland, CA YIKES! Let everyone know if you find out the scoop. nipmh: "Bang the Drum! boom...boom...boom" -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "passenger side" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Railroad Jerk Date: Wed, Feb 10, 1999, 10:06 AM Railroad Jerk were supposed to play Providence, RI and Boston, MA two weeks ago but I heard from some friends who are close to the band that on the way to the Providence show they were in a pretty bad automobile accident and were injured. They cancelled both show. That's all I know. rebecca npimh: "This is the ballad of Railroad Jerk"
re: Clip: Flipper
I first discovered Flipper in 1981, when I came up here to go to UC Berkeley. Between then and 1985 I saw them seven more times. I remember that first time really well at the On Broadway in SF -- the curtain opening to deafening feedback (On Broadway had a stage curtain); Will thumping the opening bassline of "Life is Cheap"; Bruce nodding his head slowly and out of time, cigarette in one hand, can of Bud in the other, looking anywhere but the audience. Then Steve and Ted came in on drums and the most distorted, fuzziest guitar I had ever heard (or still ever heard -- it's barely recognizable as a guitar, for God's sake). Man, the VOLUME!! The FEEDBACK (a constant during any Flipper show)!! The SLOWNESS!! And the sheer ARROGANCE of their stage show!! I was hooked something fierce -- a loyal member of the Flipper Fin Club. I saw lots of other shows during the 80's, but that was my introduction to SF punk rock. And, man, what a unique band. I really miss 'em. Owen Bly Ranchero Records Oakland, CA
SF local: correction
Tomorrow's listed time for the Red Meat/Jeff Bright show is 9:00, not 10:00 as I originally stated...sorry! Owen Bly Ranchero Records Oakland, CA
Re: TwangCast for Macs
Awright Mike!! Been waiting for this... Owen Bly Ranchero Records Oakland, CA There is a specific link on the TwangCast home page for the Mac users now. The server at Microsoft determines the user platform and sends them to the proper download area. So ... Mac users can click on the image and it will take care of them, or they can click on the Mac paragraph "click here" and get to the same NOW ONLINE, http://www.TwangCast.com>http://www.TwangCast.com TM RealCountry netcast 24 X 7 Please Visit Then let us know what you think! Mike Hays http://www.MikeHays.RealCountry.net>www.MikeHays.RealCountry.net For the best country artist web hosting, http://www.RealCountry.ne>www.RealCountry.net
Re: TwangCast for Macs
Todd writes: If anyone (Owen?) actually gets this working on a Mac, I'd love to know how. I've got the media player downloaded, but my browser will not activate it when I call up the TwangCast page. Mike: is your "tech guru" accessible? Off-list is cool, unless other Mac users are having the same difficulties. Todd Well, I downloaded it from the Microsoft page, and sure enough it came stuffed. No biggie. I unstuffed it, went to install it, and got the painful news that the player only works if you have System 8. Damn. I only have 7.5, so I'm SOL. Maybe that's what's happening with you too? Owen
L.A. Show Friday
Hey you guys! Great show in Los Angeles tomorrow night (Friday, 1/22). James Intveld and Red Meat will play Jack's Sugar Shack in Hollywood, with the incomparable Ronnie Mack starting things off at 9:30. Red Meat goes on at about 10:15... Come on by and make some noise my friends! Owen Bly Ranchero Records Oakland, CA
