Re: Albini Rant

1999-04-29 Thread Tom Baker

This is pretty long, but what I've read of it sounds pretty interesting.
I believe that Steve Albini is a record producer. At least I know of
a Steve Albini that does this.  He is known for making pretty
raw sounding stuff.  He was the producer on Nirvana's "In Utero"
disc.  Perhaps what he says is similar to what happens with
movie productions?





  The Problem With Music
by Steve Albini
 excerpted from Baffler No. 5
 
  Whenever I talk to a band who are about to sign with a major
label, I always end up
  thinking of them in a particular context. I imagine a
trench, about four feet wide and
  five feet deep, maybe sixty yards long, filled with runny,
decaying shit. I imagine these
  people, some of them good friends, some of them barely
acquaintances, at one end of
  this trench. I also imagine a faceless industry lackey at
the other end, holding a
  fountain pen and a contract waiting to be signed.
 
  Nobody can see what's printed on the contract. It's too far
away, and besides, the
  shit stench is making everybody's eyes water. The lackey
shouts to everybody that
  the first one to swim the trench gets to sign the contract.
Everybody dives in the
  trench and they struggle furiously to get to the other end.
Two people arrive
  simultaneously and begin wrestling furiously, clawing each
other and dunking each
  other under the shit. Eventually, one of them capitulates,
and there's only one
  contestant left. He reaches for the pen, but the Lackey
says, "Actually, I think you
  need a little more development. Swim it again, please.
Backstroke."
 
  And he does, of course.
 
I. AR Scouts
 
  Every major label involved in the hunt for new bands now has
on staff a high-profile
  point man, an "AR" rep who can present a comfortable face
to any prospective band.
  The initials stand for "Artist and Repertoire," because
historically, the AR staff would
  select artists to record music that they had also selected,
out of an available pool of
  each. This is still the case, though not openly.
 
  These guys are universally young [about the same age as the
bands being wooed],
  and nowadays they always have some obvious underground rock
credibility flag they
  can wave. Lyle Preslar, former guitarist for Minor Threat,
is one of them. Terry Tolkin,
  former NY independent booking agent and assistant manager at
Touch and Go is one of
  them. Al Smith, former soundman at CBGB is one of them. Mike
Gitter, former editor of
  XXX fanzine and contributor to Rip, Kerrang and other
lowbrow rags is one of them.
  Many of the annoying turds who used to staff college radio
stations are in their ranks
  as well.
 
  There are several reasons AR scouts are always young. The
explanation usually
  copped-to is that the scout will be "hip" to the current
musical "scene." A more
  important reason is that the bands will intuitively trust
someone they think is a peer,
  and who speaks fondly of the same formative rock and roll
experiences.
 
  The AR person is the first person to make contact with the
band, and as such is the
  first person to promise them the moon. Who better to promise
them the moon than an
  idealistic young turk who expects to be calling the shots in
a few years, and who has
  had no previous experience with a big record company. Hell,
he's as naive as the band
  he's duping. When he tells them no one will interfere in
their creative process, he
  probably even believes it.
 
  When he sits down with the band for the first time, over a
plate of angel hair pasta, he
  can tell them with all sincerity that when they sign with
company X, they're really
  signing with him and he's on their side. Remember that
great, gig I saw you at in '85?
  Didn't we have a blast.
 
  By now all rock bands are wise enough to be suspicious of
music industry scum. There
  is a pervasive caricature in popular culture of a portly,
middle aged ex-hipster talking a
  mile-a-minute, using outdated jargon and calling everybody
"baby." After meeting
  "their" AR guy, the band will say to themselves and
everyone else, "He's not like a
  record company guy at all! He's like one of us." And they
will be right. That's one of
  the reasons he was hired.
 
  These AR guys are not allowed to write contracts. What they
do is present the band
   

Re: Albini Rant

1999-04-29 Thread Tom Baker

OOPS!!!  That was supposed to go to a friend b/c.

Tom Baker




Re: Albini Rant

1999-04-29 Thread alnjen

Speaking of great rants, has anyone got a copy of that "How to make a major
label album" rant that Ken Irwin from Rounder wrote and Jeff Wall posted to
the list a few months back?

Allen Baekeland

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Albini Rant

1999-04-28 Thread Jeff Weiss

Since the Dingo Ate May Baby, er virus destroyed my files Ihave now lost
the legendary Albini article with his breakdown of why bands on majors are
screwed by *The Man.* If anyone has a copy, can you send it to me off-list?

About every 8 minutes I remember something else I had on my hard drive,
live the grainy real audio of the South Park christmas episode. That was
some funny stuff.

Albini, live it, know it.

Jeff





Re: Albini Rant

1999-04-28 Thread BARNARD

Jeff, the last I saw the Albini text was when Purcell posted it way back,
at least 18 months ago?...

Maybe Dave still has the reference.

--jr.



Re: Albini Rant

1999-04-28 Thread Bob Soron

At 9:33 PM -0500  on 4/28/99, BARNARD wrote:

Jeff, the last I saw the Albini text was when Purcell posted it way back,
at least 18 months ago?...

Maybe Dave still has the reference.

I don't remember the exact search phrase Mr. P used, but if you search
for "Albini" and "fucked" in your favorite search engine, you should
find the page and some mighty interesting banner ads as well.

Bob




Re: Albini Rant

1999-04-28 Thread Mike Dougherty

Someone posted it to Postcard a week or two ago.  Do a web search for "your
friends are already this fucked."  That should find it.

mike dougherty




Re: Albini Rant

1999-04-28 Thread William F. Silvers

By popular demand...

 The Problem With Music
   by Steve Albini
excerpted from Baffler No. 5

 Whenever I talk to a band who are about to sign with a major label, I 
always end up
 thinking of them in a particular context. I imagine a trench, about four 
feet wide and
 five feet deep, maybe sixty yards long, filled with runny, decaying 
shit. I imagine these
 people, some of them good friends, some of them barely acquaintances, at 
one end of
 this trench. I also imagine a faceless industry lackey at the other end, 
holding a
 fountain pen and a contract waiting to be signed.

 Nobody can see what's printed on the contract. It's too far away, and 
besides, the
 shit stench is making everybody's eyes water. The lackey shouts to 
everybody that
 the first one to swim the trench gets to sign the contract. Everybody 
dives in the
 trench and they struggle furiously to get to the other end. Two people 
arrive
 simultaneously and begin wrestling furiously, clawing each other and 
dunking each
 other under the shit. Eventually, one of them capitulates, and there's 
only one
 contestant left. He reaches for the pen, but the Lackey says, "Actually, 
I think you
 need a little more development. Swim it again, please. Backstroke."

 And he does, of course.

   I. AR Scouts

 Every major label involved in the hunt for new bands now has on staff a 
high-profile
 point man, an "AR" rep who can present a comfortable face to any 
prospective band.
 The initials stand for "Artist and Repertoire," because historically, 
the AR staff would
 select artists to record music that they had also selected, out of an 
available pool of
 each. This is still the case, though not openly.

 These guys are universally young [about the same age as the bands being 
wooed],
 and nowadays they always have some obvious underground rock credibility 
flag they
 can wave. Lyle Preslar, former guitarist for Minor Threat, is one of 
them. Terry Tolkin,
 former NY independent booking agent and assistant manager at Touch and 
Go is one of
 them. Al Smith, former soundman at CBGB is one of them. Mike Gitter, 
former editor of
 XXX fanzine and contributor to Rip, Kerrang and other lowbrow rags is 
one of them.
 Many of the annoying turds who used to staff college radio stations are 
in their ranks
 as well.

 There are several reasons AR scouts are always young. The explanation 
usually
 copped-to is that the scout will be "hip" to the current musical 
"scene." A more
 important reason is that the bands will intuitively trust someone they 
think is a peer,
 and who speaks fondly of the same formative rock and roll experiences.

 The AR person is the first person to make contact with the band, and as 
such is the
 first person to promise them the moon. Who better to promise them the 
moon than an
 idealistic young turk who expects to be calling the shots in a few 
years, and who has
 had no previous experience with a big record company. Hell, he's as 
naive as the band
 he's duping. When he tells them no one will interfere in their creative 
process, he
 probably even believes it.

 When he sits down with the band for the first time, over a plate of 
angel hair pasta, he
 can tell them with all sincerity that when they sign with company X, 
they're really
 signing with him and he's on their side. Remember that great, gig I saw 
you at in '85?
 Didn't we have a blast.

 By now all rock bands are wise enough to be suspicious of music industry 
scum. There
 is a pervasive caricature in popular culture of a portly, middle aged 
ex-hipster talking a
 mile-a-minute, using outdated jargon and calling everybody "baby." After 
meeting
 "their" AR guy, the band will say to themselves and everyone else, 
"He's not like a
 record company guy at all! He's like one of us." And they will be right. 
That's one of
 the reasons he was hired.

 These AR guys are not allowed to write contracts. What they do is 
present the band
 with a letter of intent, or "deal memo," which loosely states some 
terms, and affirms
 that the band will sign with the label once a contract has been agreed 
on.

 The spookiest thing about this harmless sounding little "memo," is that 
it is, for all legal
 purposes, a binding document. That is, once the