New Romantics?

1999-04-14 Thread cwilson

 Since we somehow have looped out into early80s land the past couple 
 days, I have a terminology question for the P2 Braintrust, re: a story 
 I'm editing: Who and what were the British "New Romantics" (which I've 
 sometimes seen spelled "Neuromantics")? I'm sort of vague on whether 
 that means, say, Siouxsie and the Banshees, or Spandau Ballet. And I'm 
 specifically wondering whether Japan (aka David Sylvian and friends) 
     woulda counted as New Romantics, and if not what they did count on?
 
 I was a bit too young at the time - or perhaps just too far from any 
 hip geographic locations - to keep track.
 
 Carl W.



Re: New Romantics?

1999-04-14 Thread cwilson

 ... um, I meant what did Japan count *as*, not on. I assume, like all 
 of us, they counted on the kindness of strangers.
 
 Carl W.



Re: New Romantics?

1999-04-14 Thread Brad Bechtel

http://home.sol.no/~knhongro/Geir/pop/History.htm has an interesting take on this:

New Romantics

Picture:  Thompson TwinsIf you don't like synths you may as well skip this whole 
chapter, because the UK early 80s New Romantics craze definitely was about synths - 
synths, music video and image. But New Romantics also was about great melodic pop 
songs, and groups such as Spandau Ballet, Simple Minds, ABC, Culture Club, Japan, 
Thompson Twins(picture right) and even teenyboppers Duran Duran made some songs worth 
checking out. 

Even more interesting (again if you don't hate synths) were the plain synthpop groups. 
Human League made one of the best albums ever with "Dare", Depeche Mode and Yazoo 
followed to make Daniel Miller, the man behind indie label Mute, rich. Orchestral 
Manouvers In The Dark, Visage, Soft Cell, Ultravox and Human League-spinoffs Heaven 17 
also made some great pop records. Vince Clarke, once a member of Depeche Mode and then 
Yazoo, later formed Erasure, a band that still exists and has had more success than 
Yazoo. There even was an American synthpop band, the slightly more musically eccentric 
Devo. After some time a more musically sophisticated, and not that entirely synth 
based, sort of synthpop was developing. Artists such as Talk Talk, Tears For Fears and 
Howard Jones represented this new trend.

And there's this from http://www2.osk.3web.ne.jp/~buggle/lexicon.html#New Romantics

New Romantics started in the Club scene and it popped out by combing electronic pop 
dance beat and showy fashion stemming glam rock via the visual media of MTV. It was 
alternatively called "Futurist" and there was a Futurist chart in Indies. 
Representative bands are Duran Duran, Kajagoogoo (such a silly name), Visage, the 
second period Ultravox, the early Talk Talk, Spandau Ballet. The only ones with the 
look above a certain level can be called as true New Romantics.

-B "flock of haircuts" B-



Re: New Romantics?

1999-04-14 Thread Carl Abraham Zimring

Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 14-Apr-99 New Romantics? by
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 And I'm 
  specifically wondering whether Japan (aka David Sylvian and friends) 
  woulda counted as New Romantics, and if not what they did count on?

Last month's Mojo had a very nice retrospective of David Sylvain's work
where the author (Sylvie Simmonds) insinuates that though Japan was
heavily influential to Duran Duran, Spandau Ballet, etc, the band sought
to distance themselves from the New Romantic movement (I guess like
Wilco and No Depression).

I think it would be fair to say that any British band moderately
influenced by Roxy Music in the early 80s could be lumped in with the
New Romantics, though none of those bands ever did much for me (unlike
Roxy).

Carl Z.