Re: Plodding through Postcard2 digest...

1999-02-24 Thread Danlee2

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  can I inquire about something that puzzles me from time to time? How
come we (the
  collective P2 mindset, that is, and maybe most serious music fans in
general)
 are quick to slay these writers for their professional opinions every time 
 we see them but then, at year end, for example, we jump at the chance to
play
  critic and divulge our own top tens 

   Cause we're just smarter than they are.  Naw, I think Neal's gotta
point, most of these guys like Kot write with a broad "critic-at-large"
viewfinder on,  and it is somewhat unfair to expect them to perform with
incisive insight on every genre.  I mean, they have to keep up with a lot more
stuff than a lot of us on P2 do, most of us having an alt.country, roots rock,
and maybe "contemporary folk"-heavy perspective g.  I mean, I know I try to
read and listen and follow the industry on a much broader scale than that, but
reality is I pretty much can't or don't, especially as a non-weasel.
 Still, I think Jon's got a point on the near-total lack of country stuff,
hell-even Rolling Stone regularly reviews a lot of mainstream country records.
And I'll personally let Kot have it for not having any Earle, Yoakum, Emmylou,
or Uncle Tupelo, especially with some of the silly stuff he did have on there.
I'm really not upset that he doesn't have any bluegrass or "deep folk", I mean
he obviously has to keep up with an awful lot of stuff.  What I can't figger
out is why Kot did this this early in the year, he's sure to miss some darn
good records, even if I can't right now think of what they might be.
  Sadly (and tho this will have to be the subject of another post, from a
purely "Kot-ian" perspective), I can't agree it's been a great decade for
music.  Good, interesting, but from a purely "songwriting" perspective, not
great.  I'd rank it certainly behind all the others going back to the fifties
(60's first, then 50's, 70's, 80's and 90's).  And tho this is surely a
subjective opinion, I'd give "alt. country", folk, and roots-rock artists
(many of  those I listed above as well Alvin, Welch, Lucinda,  Buckner, DeMent
etc etc.) a lot of the credit for doing the heavy lifting as far as good
songwriting goes for this decade (even tho I will concede "alt.country" is
overrated as a genre, but not an idea.))

   There.  Did I cover enough shit in that post??? (;-))

  Professionally and defensively yours,

   Aww, go back and eat your Kaballah.  I'll have mine with lox and cream
cheese.  Egg bagel.

g
dan
 



Plodding through Postcard2 digest...

1999-02-23 Thread Steve Gardner

Some things interested me in this latest digest...

  ROCK SOLID
  IN THE TWILIGHT DAYS OF THE '90S, HERE ARE 50 REASONS WHY IT HAS BEEN
  A GREAT DECADE FOR MUSIC

I own 12 of those albums, have heard 7 more, have heard of 28 beyond that,
and have never heard of only 3 of those records.  I don't see the list as
particularly snobby as some do.  Many of those records were in the Top 40 at
one point or another.  I'm sure if *I* made a list the snobbiness factor
would be way way above this guy.  I don't even think his choices were that
bad; taking a huge genre (such as EVERYTHING from the 90s!) it isn't
surprising that his personal tastes would match up with mine from one to
fifty.

And since I'm a listlover I'm glad he made it.  I'll read almost anything in
list form (including digest headings.)

And since I've just outted myself as a listlover here is my alltime desert
island disc list.

1.  Billy Bragg - Talking with the Taxman About Poetry
2.  Townes Van Zandt - Live at the Old Quarter in Houston, TX
3.  Hank Williams - The Complete Hank Williams
4.  Damned - Damned Damned Damned
5.  Stanley Brothers - Complete Columbia Recordings
6.  Uncle Tupelo - Still Feel Gone
7.  Elvis Costello - My Aim Is True
8.  Pogues - Rum, Sodomy and the Lash
9.  Tom Waits - Swordfishtrombones
10.  Bob Wills - The Tiffany Transcriptions
(I'll sneak this one on the island too...)
11. Highwoods String Band - Feed Your Babies Onions
Just missing the cut was Husker Du "New Day Rising", the Replacements "Tim",
the Descendents "Milo Goes to College", Miracle Legion "Drenched" and a few
others.

Phil clipped:

25. Wilco, "Summerteeth" (Reprise)
Young roots-rock band makes its own version of the Beach Boys'
 "Pet Sounds" (to be released March 9).

Jamie said:
Heresy! Heresy! No one can touch the spooky intensity and giddy weirdness
of
"Pet Sounds", dammit!

Don't get me started on the Beach Boys!


From: Don Yates [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Tom Russell's new one

Didn't someone refer to this as the best album ever, or some such
hyperbole?  After one listen, I'd give it an award for one of the more
sleep-inducing albums I've heard in quite awhile, but that's about it

I like how Don doesn't hold back. :^)  Here's what I think about this album
(and many of Tom's others):  I love the idea of making an album about your
roots, I love the musicians on the album, I love the songs, and I love the
guests.  And as much as I love Tom, I have to say that I love him more like
a father.  A father who is really nice and talented, but sometimes does
things that make you say "Aww dad, stop it.  You're embarassing me!"
It's the singing voice.  I've never liked that kind of sound.  And when you
couple that with him singing about some woman taking off her red dress (like
on his Rose album) it gives me THE SHIVERS.

I've seen Tom quite a few times in concert and I always enjoy myself.  I
think he's incredibly talented...I'd just rather hear and watch Dave Alvin
singing his songsor Iris Dement.  :^)

Say, any folk fans out there hear John Wesley Harding's new record of
(retired English folk singer/guitarist) Nic Jones songs?  I've never
been much of a Harding fan, but he does a really nice job with Jones's
repetoire.  Just him singing, with Robert Lloyd helping out on acoustic
guitar.  While I await Kelly Willis's new one, this will keep my ears
happy (for a few hours at least).

Once again John Wesley harding gives folk a good name.  I just got this one
this morning and I really like it.  I knew I would, though, because I really
like Nic Jones and I didn't see how Wes could screw up any of his songs.
This is his best album since that one with Kill the Messenger on it.  Whoo,
that was a great one.

Jon said:
"IN THE TWILIGHT DAYS OF THE '90S, HERE
ARE 50 REASONS WHY IT HAS BEEN A GREAT DECADE FOR MUSIC" - a leap has been
made from "rock, pop and hip hop" to "music," and the former doesn't cover
a
number of streams of "music," including at least one, i.e., country, that
certainly appears to have some appeal to a general/mainstream audience.
It's the title's implicit equation of r,phh with all of music, or even all
of popular music (i.e., excluding classical), that frosts me.

Lighten up, Francis. g  Of course an article is going to be based on the
personal experience of the writer.  And if I remember correctly, Greg Kot is
the music writer for the Chicago tribune that writes about the type of music
in his list.  The article is written by a human, therefore personal taste
will be implicit.  *I* could say that the 90s have been a great decade for
music because of the records by Uncle Tupelo, Snuff, Gillian Welch,
Varnaline, Jerry Holland, etc etc and just because I didn't list avant garde
classical, hip hop, mathrock or emocore doesn't mean my statement isn't
true.  If Greg Kot says that the 90s were a great decade of music because of
those 50 albums he listed then more power to him. If Jon Weisberger says the
90s