I think I'm one of the few who can appreciate both sides of the Posies. Initially I was pissed that "Frosting..." wasn't "Dear 23 part 2". But listening to that album now, I think the sound holds up very well. That "textured beauty" of "Dear 23" (produced by the guy that did that first Stone Roses album if I recall correctly) for me still evokes a time and place in 1990 and probably still has the better songs, but "Frosting" is not without its sonic pleasures. And I think their fourth album "Amazing Disgrace" is almost a happy amalgamation of the sounds of those two albums with some more great songs. Too bad their last album (last year's "Success") kinda sucked. Peace, Slonedog Jerry Curry wrote: < I find the textured beauty of _Dear 23_ to be so wonderful, that it easily creeps onto a Desert Island short short list. As for _Frosting....._, I find the sonic dissonance (along, with the heinous masturbation reference of the title) to be damn near a betrayal of everything I thought the band was about. That record basically, made me lose a lot of faith in The Posies. Faith, I never ever fully recovered. I would equate my disappointment in this record to my disgust with the Rank & File record that came out on Rhino. You know, good-bye cowpunk, hello heavy metal (Rank & File). Good-bye lush pop, hello grunge meets powerpop (Posies). Unfortunately, I think the Posies "cooked their goose" with this record and moved into an area that other bands were doing much better. Too bad they left their strengths behind. Funny, we were just talking about this very same subject on the Audities poplist but we could discuss it philosophically. The consensus is that the Posies received so much grief about being "uncool" in a town enraptured with grunge, that they altered their sound. It's a real bitch when you dig a type of music that either 1) was never considered "cool" or 2) is now considered passe'. I miss the Posies and hope to goodness, they one day reform and revisit those heady _Dear 23_ days. Sorry Bill, we'll have to chalk this one up to our rather severe "edgy pop" vs "lush pop" asthetic taste differences.>
