OT: Alternative for Spamassassin

2010-01-17 Thread Michael Reck

Hi List,

I`m looking for a SA replacement in an large scale enviroment.
DSPAM seems to use filesystem (--with-userdir=) for various functions  
which is not what i want. dspam also needs per user activation.

Anything except Mailstorage is placed in DB and i don`t want to change this.

Does anybody know software which can replace SA and:

- don`t use/need Filesystem access (except for caches and/or temp storage)
- Support for 80k+ Users, Multiple node cluster
- Flexible config per User (SQL Based)

I`ve already read some descriptions from other projects but many of  
them fail on the filesystem requirement.


Any ideas ?

Greets
Michael





Re: OT: Alternative for Spamassassin

2010-01-18 Thread Michael Reck

Zitat von Patrick Ben Koetter :


* Michael Reck :

Hi List,

I`m looking for a SA replacement in an large scale enviroment.
DSPAM seems to use filesystem (--with-userdir=) for various
functions which is not what i want. dspam also needs per user
activation.
Anything except Mailstorage is placed in DB and i don`t want to change this.

Does anybody know software which can replace SA and:

- don`t use/need Filesystem access (except for caches and/or temp storage)
- Support for 80k+ Users, Multiple node cluster
- Flexible config per User (SQL Based)


Just for the books: You are aware that all your requirements can be met by
Spamassassin, too.

- SA can be configured to use filesystem for cache/tmp only
- SA scales up to 80k+ users and more.
- SA allows for SQL based rules; the config file goes into files.  
IIRC you can

  get around that too, but I am not 100% sure at the moment.


I am already aware of this.

How you run SA depends on how you hook it into the system. Have you  
considered


We use amavisd-new which handle also the custom rulesets in SQL. Maybe  
i am too much geek to get satisfied with this simple solution :)




Any other reasons to reject SA?


Yes, i don`t like it :)
We already use SA in this Cluster with SQL. And i (with my mailboxes)  
have no problems with it.
But i see that SA results getting worser and worser - or the spam is  
getting better - you name it.
Anyway, our customers complaining the usual way ( to much spam in my  
inbox...) and are not getting smarter (i don`t want to train SA...) so  
i must bear the challenge :)



Greets
Michael





Re: OT: Alternative for Spamassassin

2010-01-18 Thread Michael Reck

Zitat von Steve :



 Original-Nachricht 

Datum: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 19:49:49 +0100
Von: Michael Reck 
An: postfix-users@postfix.org
Betreff: OT: Alternative for Spamassassin



Hi List,

I`m looking for a SA replacement in an large scale enviroment.
DSPAM seems to use filesystem (--with-userdir=)

That is only if you want local users to be able to use DSPAM. That  
--with-userdir is NOT required if you don't have any local users or  
don't want to consider user homes.




for various functions
which is not what i want. dspam also needs per user activation.


That is simply not true.



I could`t find any example which cover this fact. The docs are not  
pointing me to the right direction. Maybe you could provide me an  
example config or other docs ? I already have an test machine so i  
could test this in no time.





Anything except Mailstorage is placed in DB and i don`t want to change
this.

Does anybody know software which can replace SA and:

- don`t use/need Filesystem access (except for caches and/or temp storage)
- Support for 80k+ Users, Multiple node cluster
- Flexible config per User (SQL Based)

I`ve already read some descriptions from other projects but many of
them fail on the filesystem requirement.

DSPAM would do what you want EXCEPT if you need/want the DSPAM Web  
UI then it will fail because of the filesystem requirements.




This would be no Problem.

Greets
Michael