[pfx] Re: postfix does not add Return-Path if mail is missing it
On 23.04.23 11:19, Benny Pedersen via Postfix-users wrote: Subject: [pfx] postfix does not add Return-Path if mail is missing it imho a bug Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users skrev den 2023-04-23 16:43: it's added in local if delivering to mbox or maildir: http://www.postfix.org/local.8.html On 2023-04-23 at 14:29:31 UTC-0400 (Sun, 23 Apr 2023 20:29:31 +0200) Benny Pedersen via Postfix-users is rumored to have said: its not in my case a local problem, its seen from remote mta (exim), i reported here in belive that this is a bug, i know envelope-from can be in received header aswell On 23.04.23 16:22, Bill Cole via Postfix-users wrote: Return-Path should only be added by the final delivery agent. If the mail is being sent out to another MTA, it should NOT have a Return-Path on it. what will postfix do if both missing ?, I'm sure Viktor and/or Wietse with correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly sure Postfix never cares about the presence of a Return-Path header *UNLESS* it is configured to strip an existing one out. It does not interpret existing Received headers. postfix drops this header (among others) by default, when processing incoming mail: http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#message_drop_headers what will spf test do in spamassassin ? SA has multiple ways of figuring out the RFC5321MailFrom (a.k.a. envelope sender or return-path) value, which the MTA should provide to whatever glue you use to integrate SA. Some glue layers (e.g. MIMEDefang, MailMunge, and I expect any other milter) construct synthetic final delivery headers (Received, Delivered-To, Return-Path, etc.) to pass to SA. See the SA docs (and your glue docs, I guess...) for details. SpamAssassin has envelope_sender_header for this use. other than that, SA supports envelope sender in Received: header which postfix supports: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/spamassassin/EnvelopeSenderInReceived -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, uh...@fantomas.sk ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ Warning: I wish NOT to receive e-mail advertising to this address. Varovanie: na tuto adresu chcem NEDOSTAVAT akukolvek reklamnu postu. I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel universe. ___ Postfix-users mailing list -- postfix-users@postfix.org To unsubscribe send an email to postfix-users-le...@postfix.org
[pfx] Re: postfix does not add Return-Path if mail is missing it
On 2023-04-23 at 14:29:31 UTC-0400 (Sun, 23 Apr 2023 20:29:31 +0200) Benny Pedersen via Postfix-users is rumored to have said: Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users skrev den 2023-04-23 16:43: On 23.04.23 11:19, Benny Pedersen via Postfix-users wrote: Subject: [pfx] postfix does not add Return-Path if mail is missing it imho a bug it's added in local if delivering to mbox or maildir: http://www.postfix.org/local.8.html its not in my case a local problem, its seen from remote mta (exim), i reported here in belive that this is a bug, i know envelope-from can be in received header aswell Return-Path should only be added by the final delivery agent. If the mail is being sent out to another MTA, it should NOT have a Return-Path on it. what will postfix do if both missing ?, I'm sure Viktor and/or Wietse with correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly sure Postfix never cares about the presence of a Return-Path header *UNLESS* it is configured to strip an existing one out. It does not interpret existing Received headers. what will spf test do in spamassassin ? SA has multiple ways of figuring out the RFC5321MailFrom (a.k.a. envelope sender or return-path) value, which the MTA should provide to whatever glue you use to integrate SA. Some glue layers (e.g. MIMEDefang, MailMunge, and I expect any other milter) construct synthetic final delivery headers (Received, Delivered-To, Return-Path, etc.) to pass to SA. See the SA docs (and your glue docs, I guess...) for details. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For Hire ___ Postfix-users mailing list -- postfix-users@postfix.org To unsubscribe send an email to postfix-users-le...@postfix.org
[pfx] Re: postfix does not add Return-Path if mail is missing it
Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users skrev den 2023-04-23 16:43: On 23.04.23 11:19, Benny Pedersen via Postfix-users wrote: Subject: [pfx] postfix does not add Return-Path if mail is missing it imho a bug it's added in local if delivering to mbox or maildir: http://www.postfix.org/local.8.html its not in my case a local problem, its seen from remote mta (exim), i reported here in belive that this is a bug, i know envelope-from can be in received header aswell what will postfix do if both missing ?, what will spf test do in spamassassin ? ___ Postfix-users mailing list -- postfix-users@postfix.org To unsubscribe send an email to postfix-users-le...@postfix.org
[pfx] Re: postfix does not add Return-Path if mail is missing it
On 23.04.23 11:19, Benny Pedersen via Postfix-users wrote: Subject: [pfx] postfix does not add Return-Path if mail is missing it imho a bug it's added in local if delivering to mbox or maildir: http://www.postfix.org/local.8.html -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, uh...@fantomas.sk ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ Warning: I wish NOT to receive e-mail advertising to this address. Varovanie: na tuto adresu chcem NEDOSTAVAT akukolvek reklamnu postu. I drive way too fast to worry about cholesterol. ___ Postfix-users mailing list -- postfix-users@postfix.org To unsubscribe send an email to postfix-users-le...@postfix.org
[pfx] Re: postfix does not add Return-Path if mail is missing it
Benny Pedersen via Postfix-users: > > imho a bug Insifficient ___ Postfix-users mailing list -- postfix-users@postfix.org To unsubscribe send an email to postfix-users-le...@postfix.org
