Re: hold trigger dmarc milter notify_classes

2015-01-13 Thread John
Dumb question. Are all holds to be found in the (debian case) in the 
/var/spool/postfix/hold space? If so the surely a simple script that sends 
a message to root (?) if the folder is not empty might be a stop gap solution.





Re: hold trigger dmarc milter notify_classes

2015-01-13 Thread Wietse Venema
Wietse:
> Maybe you can ask the Milter's developers to make their unconditional
> "quarantine" action configurable.

A. Schulze:
> that would be a good solution, too.
> But this specific developer is _very_ busy.

Robert Schetterer:
> i know you will post this *g, yes might be best option
> but a configurable postfix notify class "hold" option may help in any
> case of "hold"

So the options are:

- Everyone is supposed to monitor their logfiles.

- A very busy Postfix or Milter developer writes new code.

Wietse


Re: hold trigger dmarc milter notify_classes

2015-01-13 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 13.01.2015 um 13:36 schrieb A. Schulze:
> 
> wietse:
> 
>> Maybe you can ask the Milter's developers to make their unconditional
>> "quarantine" action configurable.

i know you will post this *g, yes might be best option
but a configurable postfix notify class "hold" option may help in any
case of "hold"

> 
> that would be a good solution, too.
> But this specific developer is _very_ busy.
> 
> Andreas
> 



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Re: hold trigger dmarc milter notify_classes

2015-01-13 Thread A. Schulze


wietse:


Maybe you can ask the Milter's developers to make their unconditional
"quarantine" action configurable.


that would be a good solution, too.
But this specific developer is _very_ busy.

Andreas



Re: hold trigger dmarc milter notify_classes

2015-01-13 Thread Wietse Venema
Christian R??ner:
> I can confirm this problem. But I also have other stuff in Postfix
> that also triggers hold and I never know, when this happens. So a
> mechanism to inform the postmaster, when mail gets on hold is a
> very big wishlist feature :-)

Such as running a logfile monitor that automatically notifies the
system admin?

Maybe you can ask the Milter's developers to make their unconditional
"quarantine" action configurable.

Wietse


Re: hold trigger dmarc milter notify_classes

2015-01-13 Thread Christian Rößner
Hi,

> using dmarc milter sometimes causes hold action
> 
> like i.e ( failure pruduced by myself only for demonstrate )
> 
> 2015-01-13T10:46:09.372033+01:00 mail opendmarc[15158]:
> 3kM6Nw3sCTzDdG2l: amazon.com fail
> 2015-01-13T10:46:09.411674+01:00 mail postfix/cleanup[3532]:
> 3kM6Nw3sCTzDdG2l: milter-hold: END-OF-MESSAGE from
> mail.tuxzilla.de[88.198.69.105]: milter triggers HOLD action;
> from= to= proto=ESMTP
> helo=
> 
> which is tec fine with amazon.com dmarc policy
> 
> dig -t txt _dmarc.amazon.com
> _dmarc.amazon.com.  900 IN  TXT "v=DMARC1\;
> p=quarantine\; pct=100\; rua=mailto:dmarc-repo...@bounces.amazon.com\;
> ruf=mailto:dmarc-repo...@bounces.amazon.com";
> 
> the dmarc milter seems has no conf parameter to overide quarantine
> policy somehow
> 
> But on small postfix mail servers without queue monitoring
> someone may never notice holded mails
> 
> What about include some   notify_classes for hold
> 
> like
> 
> software
>Inform the postmaster of mail not delivered due to software
> problems. The notification is sent to the address specified with the
> error_notice_recipient configuration parameter (default: postmaster).
> 
> but for hold actions, or any other idea how get notice about holded
> mails without third party scripting or however how would you goal the
> problem meanwhilesetting up a cron watch hold queue shell script etc ?

I can confirm this problem. But I also have other stuff in Postfix that also 
triggers hold and I never know, when this happens. So a mechanism to inform the 
postmaster, when mail gets on hold is a very big wishlist feature :-)

Thanks

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