Re: Zone record set up

2009-01-24 Thread mouss
Victor Duchovni a écrit :
 On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 08:53:21PM +0100, mouss wrote:
 
 wrong.

 the MX should not be a cname. see
  http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/policy-bogusmx.php

 use
  IN MC 10 mail2.freewayprojects.com.
 
 This requirement was relaxed in RFC 2821. It is OK (though still
 better not to if not necessary) to use CNAMES.
 

my understanding is that RFC 5321 went back. at least, this is what I
understand from:

   When a domain name associated with an MX RR is looked up and the
   associated data field obtained, the data field of that response MUST
   contain a domain name.  That domain name, when queried, MUST return
   at least one address record (e.g., A or  RR) that gives the IP
   address of the SMTP server to which the message should be directed.
   Any other response, specifically including a value that will return a
   CNAME record when queried, lies outside the scope of this Standard.
   The prohibition on labels in the data that resolve to CNAMEs is
   discussed in more detail in RFC 2181, Section 10.3 [38].

or am I misunderstanding this?


Re: Zone record set up

2009-01-24 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 09:15:27AM +0100, mouss wrote:

 IN MC 10 mail2.freewayprojects.com.
  
  This requirement was relaxed in RFC 2821. It is OK (though still
  better not to if not necessary) to use CNAMES.
 
 my understanding is that RFC 5321 went back. at least, this is what I
 understand from:
 
When a domain name associated with an MX RR is looked up and the
associated data field obtained, the data field of that response MUST
contain a domain name.  That domain name, when queried, MUST return
at least one address record (e.g., A or  RR) that gives the IP
address of the SMTP server to which the message should be directed.
Any other response, specifically including a value that will return a
CNAME record when queried, lies outside the scope of this Standard.
The prohibition on labels in the data that resolve to CNAMEs is
discussed in more detail in RFC 2181, Section 10.3 [38].
 
 or am I misunderstanding this?

You appear to be right, while a CNAME in the sender or recipient domain
is now allowed, CNAMEs in the MX RRset are not.

-- 
Viktor.

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Re: Zone record set up

2009-01-23 Thread mouss
Kevin Bailey a écrit :
 Hi Guys,
 
 Just a question RE setting up the DNS zone record correctly for a mail
 server.
 
 I have a couple of setups which work but have just copied one and I'm
 getting the following response.
 
 j.gilb...@watercooledsurf.com: Host or domain name not found. Name
 service
error for name=watercooledsurf.com type=A: Host found but no data
 record of
requested type
 
 
 One zone I have is set up as
 
 ; Zone: grosvenorchambers.co.uk
 ; Generated: Fri Jan 23 14:53:53 2009
 ;
 @   IN  SOA ns0.dnsmaster.net.   
 hostmaster.dnsmaster.net. (
2008110301 43200 1800 604000 86400 )
 
IN  NS  ns1.dnsmaster.net.
IN  NS  ns2.dnsmaster.net.
IN  NS  ns3.dnsmaster.net.
 
 grosvenorchambers.co.uk. IN  MX  10
 mail2.freewayprojects.com.
 ftp IN  CNAME   ftp2.freewayprojects.com.
 mailIN  CNAME   mail2.freewayprojects.com.
 smtpIN  CNAME   smtp2.freewayprojects.com.
 webmail IN  CNAME   webmail2.freewayprojects.com.
 www IN  CNAME   web2.freewayprojects.com.
 
 
 
 And another is set up as
 
 ; Zone: firetecworld.com
 ; Generated: Fri Jan 23 14:54:29 2009
 ;
 @   IN  SOA ns0.dnsmaster.net.   
 hostmaster.dnsmaster.net. (
2008081001 43200 1800 604800 86400 )
 
IN  NS  ns1.dnsmaster.net.
IN  NS  ns2.dnsmaster.net.
IN  NS  ns3.dnsmaster.net.
IN  MX  10 mail.firetecworld.com.
IN  A   212.84.168.98
 
 ftp IN  CNAME   ftp2.freewayprojects.com.
 mailIN  CNAME   mail2.freewayprojects.com.
 smtpIN  CNAME   smtp2.freewayprojects.com.
 webmail IN  CNAME   webmail2.freewayprojects.com.
 www IN  CNAME   web2.freewayprojects.com.
 

wrong.

the MX should not be a cname. see
http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/policy-bogusmx.php

use
IN MC 10 mail2.freewayprojects.com.
instead.


 
 
 
 In both cases I am trying to keep them set up so that if the main server
 fails I can then repoint mail2.freewayprojects.com,
 smtp2.freewayprojects.com, web2.freewayprojects.com etc to the
 secondary/backup server and the service will continue.  I.e. I won't
 have to change all the clients DNS records - just the
 *2.freewayprojects.com IP addresses.
 
 
 
 I tried initially to copy the first one.
 
 What is the best/canonical way for setting up DNS reocrds?
 
 We have www happily CNAME'd to the web server address.  Similarly for
 mail, ftp, smtp, webmail etc.  The mail should just need an MX record. 
 Does the mail need an 'A' record of some sort?
 

yes, use A records instead of CNAME. you can generate the zone file
using a script.



Re: Zone record set up

2009-01-23 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 08:53:21PM +0100, mouss wrote:

 wrong.
 
 the MX should not be a cname. see
   http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/policy-bogusmx.php
 
 use
   IN MC 10 mail2.freewayprojects.com.

This requirement was relaxed in RFC 2821. It is OK (though still
better not to if not necessary) to use CNAMES.

-- 
Viktor.

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