sending email with Gnus

2009-03-01 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG 

Hello,

As far as i know, Postfix does not support GNU TLS.
Nevertheless! Is it possible sending email with Gnus (MUA) via Postfix 
(MTA)? In the future, i'll move to Gnus from Thundirbird. For now, only 
problem is an association with Postfix and GNU TLS.


byunghee

Re: sending email with Gnus

2009-03-01 Thread Noel Jones 

Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:

Hello,

As far as i know, Postfix does not support GNU TLS.
Nevertheless! Is it possible sending email with Gnus (MUA) via Postfix 
(MTA)? In the future, i'll move to Gnus from Thundirbird. For now, only 
problem is an association with Postfix and GNU TLS.


byunghee


Don't confuse library incompatibility when building postfix 
with communication interoperability problems.


Gnus should communicate fine with postfix.

  -- Noel Jones

Re: sending email with Gnus

2009-03-01 Thread LuKreme 

On 1-Mar-2009, at 18:55, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:

Postfix does not support GNU TLS.



Postfix does not 'support' TLS at all. It should work with Gnu TLS as  
well as with any other TLS library.


--
Beware of the Leopard!

Re: sending email with Gnus

2009-03-01 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt 
* LuKreme :

> Postfix does not 'support' TLS at all.

I wouldn't say it that way. STARTTLS looks like TLS support, if you
ask me

> It should work with Gnu TLS as well as with any other TLS library.

As far as I knwo it doesn't :)

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Re: sending email with Gnus

2009-03-02 Thread Wietse Venema 
Ralf Hildebrandt:
> * LuKreme :
> 
> > Postfix does not 'support' TLS at all.
> 
> I wouldn't say it that way. STARTTLS looks like TLS support, if you
> ask me
> 
> > It should work with Gnu TLS as well as with any other TLS library.
> 
> As far as I knwo it doesn't :)

A couple years ago, Gnu TLS would exit the program (exit status 2)
instead of reporting an error to Postfix, so that Postfix could
switch to plaintext where appropriate.

http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html#build_tls

Wietse

Re: sending email with Gnus

2009-03-02 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt 
* Wietse Venema :

> A couple years ago, Gnu TLS would exit the program (exit status 2)
> instead of reporting an error to Postfix, so that Postfix could
> switch to plaintext where appropriate.
> 
> http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html#build_tls

Should I retry a build with GNUTLS?

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Re: sending email with Gnus

2009-03-02 Thread Wietse Venema 
Ralf Hildebrandt:
> * Wietse Venema :
> 
> > A couple years ago, Gnu TLS would exit the program (exit status 2)
> > instead of reporting an error to Postfix, so that Postfix could
> > switch to plaintext where appropriate.
> > 
> > http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html#build_tls
> 
> Should I retry a build with GNUTLS?

Apparently this library freaks out when there's no /dev/*random,
so this is a double idiot problem. 

Idiot #1: GnuTLS library calls exit instead of allowing applications
such as Postfix to provide randomness.  Postfix provides randomness
via a tlsmgr daemon that runs outside the chroot jail and that has
access to /dev/*random.

Idiot #2: Linux distro turns on CHROOT by default, but provides no
/dev/*random.

You're welcome to reproduce this.

Wietse