Re: [postgis-users] pointcloud : change pcid ?

2014-10-31 Thread Rémi Cura
Yep.
For the downgrading I tried it a while ago for a subset of the same schema,
https://github.com/Remi-C/pointcloud/blob/master/lib/pc_api.h#L445

The idea was that usually we don't need all dimensions, particularly when
working on the geometry.
So I wrote a couple of functions to allow a pc_explodes with only a subset
of dimensions.

The condition was the dimension should have the same name.

I guess non mapped dimensions could be filled with O or null or Nan?

Cheers,
Rémi-C

2014-10-31 1:04 GMT+01:00 Paul Ramsey pram...@cleverelephant.ca:

 Correct, I was thinking more PC_Transform(pcpatch, pcid), which would look
 for common dimension names and map between them by default, or could maybe
 accept a mapping (dim-dim) to control the conversion. But yes. Danger I
 suppose in downgrading data (pushing a 4 byte into 2 byte) but that could
 be left to users to avoid or not on their own (emit warnings on downgrades
 maybe).

 On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 4:54 AM, Rémi Cura remi.c...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm sorry I think I was unclear.
 I don't want to acces point,
 I just want to change the pcid of a patch.
 For the moment it seems to imply a complete destruction/reconstruction of
 a new,
 which is really really not efficient.

 Basically in this case I would like a function PC_SetPCID(pcpatch)
 I understand that such function is very hard to create in the genral
 case, because you would have to put mappings between attributes.


 Cheers.
 Rémi-C




 2014-10-28 19:08 GMT+01:00 Stephen V. Mather s...@clevelandmetroparks.com
 :

  ​Ah. Yes, I think if you are accessing a point within a patch, you have
 to unpack the patch. It's one of those tradeoffs...


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  Now the only solution I found is to break a patch into point, then
 break point into attributes,
 then construct a  new point with correct pcid and attributes, then
 construct a new patch !
 Cheers,
 Rémi-C

 2014-10-28 17:31 GMT+01:00 Stephen V. Mather 
 s...@clevelandmetroparks.com:

  How do you mean? What are you doing now?


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Hey,
  any pointcloud users has an idea about changing the pcid of a patch
 without breaking it into pieces?
  Cheers,
 Rémi-C

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[postgis-users] Difference between Geometry and BLOB in Postgis

2014-10-31 Thread Robert Burgholzer
I am working through some postgis stuff for a Drupal module, and noticed
that the geometry storage in Drupal is bytea (because it tends to be
mysql-centric?).

What is the difference, i.e., advantage offered by the PostGIS custom type
geometry?

Thanks,
/r/b

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[postgis-users] multiple rasters in same table?

2014-10-31 Thread Raffaele Morelli
Is there any chance to load multiple rasters in the same table?

Raffaele

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Re: [postgis-users] multiple rasters in same table?

2014-10-31 Thread Mateusz Łoskot
2014-10-31 15:08 GMT+01:00 Raffaele Morelli raffaele.more...@gmail.com:
 Is there any chance to load multiple rasters in the same table?

 Raffaele

Yes.
Similarly to vector, a raster layer in PostGIS is made of a pair:
table and column, not just a table.

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[postgis-users] Topology: cannot delete slivers (or gaps)

2014-10-31 Thread Guillaume Drolet
Hi!

I'm am turning to you all hoping you'll have some tricks to help with
this problem:

I created a topology for 2290 polygons and populated a topogeom column
using these commands:

SELECT topology.CreateTopology('de_20k_topo', find_srid('syshiera',
'de_20k', 'geom_32198'), 1e-4);
SELECT topology.AddTopoGeometryColumn('de_20k_topo', 'syshiera',
'de_20k', 'topogeom', 'MULTIPOLYGON');

DO $$DECLARE r record;
BEGIN
  FOR r IN SELECT * FROM syshiera.de_20k LOOP
BEGIN
  UPDATE syshiera.de_20k SET topogeom = toTopoGeom(geom_32198,
'de_20k_topo', 1, 1e-4)
  WHERE gid = r.gid;
EXCEPTION
  WHEN OTHERS THEN
RAISE WARNING 'Loading of record % failed: %', r.gid, SQLERRM;
END;
  END LOOP;
END$$;

-- For testing:
SELECT topology.CopyTopology('de_20k_topo', 'de_20k_topo_tests');


I need to fix 1) extra nodes along edges that are not at an
intersection and 2) sliver polygons.

For cases in 1, I was successful using 'ST_NewEdgeHeal' and a plPgsql script.

For cases in 2, I can remove some slivers with 'ST_RemEdgeModFace' but
some of them I just can't delete:

I get either:

ERROR: TopoGeom 1123 in layer 1 (de_20k_topo_tests.LAYER1.) cannot be
represented healing faces 1514 and 1502

Or, when trying with remove a node with 'topology.ST_NewEdgeHeal':

ERROR:  SQL/MM Spatial exception - other edges connected (3912)

In this particular example, two edges are connected two the same two
nodes, similar to what was discussed here:

http://postgis.17.x6.nabble.com/PostGIS-1955-Exception-when-2-edges-passed-to-ST-ModEdgeHeal-that-are-attached-to-the-same-2-nodes-td4999383.html

But according to that discussion thread, this was fixed in an earlier
version (I'm using topology version 2.1.3).

Maybe my problem is different but I'll need your help to get it
sorted. Here's an example showing the small face (1502) I want remove:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5196336/example1.bmp

Thanks for your help!
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Re: [postgis-users] Difference between Geometry and BLOB in Postgis

2014-10-31 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 08:47:59AM -0400, Robert Burgholzer wrote:
 I am working through some postgis stuff for a Drupal module, and noticed
 that the geometry storage in Drupal is bytea (because it tends to be
 mysql-centric?).
 
 What is the difference, i.e., advantage offered by the PostGIS custom type
 geometry?

Advantages are those of having typed data. Functions can behave differently
based on the data type, you can have type-specific statistical analyzers
and operators, you know exactly how to interpret the data...

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Re: [postgis-users] Difference between Geometry and BLOB in Postgis

2014-10-31 Thread Robert Burgholzer
Thanks for the response - I was thinking that may be the case.  I suppose I
should ask if PostGIS has anything that would make it behave badly when
called on geometries stored as plain old blob's?

On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Sandro Santilli s...@keybit.net wrote:

 On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 08:47:59AM -0400, Robert Burgholzer wrote:
  I am working through some postgis stuff for a Drupal module, and noticed
  that the geometry storage in Drupal is bytea (because it tends to be
  mysql-centric?).
 
  What is the difference, i.e., advantage offered by the PostGIS custom
 type
  geometry?

 Advantages are those of having typed data. Functions can behave differently
 based on the data type, you can have type-specific statistical analyzers
 and operators, you know exactly how to interpret the data...

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Re: [postgis-users] Topology: cannot delete slivers (or gaps)

2014-10-31 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 10:17:48AM -0400, Guillaume Drolet wrote:

 I created a topology for 2290 polygons and populated a topogeom column

[...]

 I need to fix 1) extra nodes along edges that are not at an
 intersection and 2) sliver polygons.

[...]

 For cases in 2, I can remove some slivers with 'ST_RemEdgeModFace' but
 some of them I just can't delete:
 
 I get either:
 
 ERROR: TopoGeom 1123 in layer 1 (de_20k_topo_tests.LAYER1.) cannot be
 represented healing faces 1514 and 1502

This error means that a TopoGeometry object exists (with id=1123)
that's defined as containing only one of the faces separated by the
edge you're trying to remove.

The fix here would be to find faces that take part in the composition
of multiple TopoGeometry objects and those NOT taking part in the 
composition of any TopoGeometry object. I've seen GRASS GUIs referring
to those 2 classes as polygon0 and polygon2, enough that I've been
thinking it could be useful to have them shown as layers in the QGIS
viewer for PostGIS Topology. You should be able to extract those faces
with a query to the relation and the layers tables.

So basically you first have to fix the TopoGeometry objects and then
can safely drop the no-more-needed edges.

 Or, when trying with remove a node with 'topology.ST_NewEdgeHeal':
 
 ERROR:  SQL/MM Spatial exception - other edges connected (3912)
 
 In this particular example, two edges are connected two the same two
 nodes, similar to what was discussed here:
 
 http://postgis.17.x6.nabble.com/PostGIS-1955-Exception-when-2-edges-passed-to-ST-ModEdgeHeal-that-are-attached-to-the-same-2-nodes-td4999383.html
 
 But according to that discussion thread, this was fixed in an earlier
 version (I'm using topology version 2.1.3).
 
 Maybe my problem is different but I'll need your help to get it
 sorted. Here's an example showing the small face (1502) I want remove:
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5196336/example1.bmp

Which edge ids did you pass to ST_NewEdgeHeal ?
Is the topology in a good state according to topology.ValidateTopology ?

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Re: [postgis-users] Difference between Geometry and BLOB in Postgis

2014-10-31 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 12:26:44PM -0400, Robert Burgholzer wrote:
 Thanks for the response - I was thinking that may be the case.  I suppose I
 should ask if PostGIS has anything that would make it behave badly when
 called on geometries stored as plain old blob's?

PostgreSQL would only call PostGIS functions taking Geometry if you pass
them what PostgreSQL belives being Geometry objects. At which level
are you acting here ? At SQL level a bytea could be converted to
a geometry object implicitly using the bytea::geometry cast, which
assumes the bytea is in EWKB format.

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[postgis-users] Import gpx files into Postgis db (windows)?

2014-10-31 Thread dandrigo
Dear all,

I'm working with windows 8  postgis 2.1.

I have several gps (gpx) files. I would like to import directly those gpx
files into my postgis database. 

What would be the easiest way?

In advance, thank you to throw light for me. 

Regards. 




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Re: [postgis-users] Difference between Geometry and BLOB in Postgis

2014-10-31 Thread Robert Burgholzer
Working at the module level in Drupal, creating queries with spatial
operators for Views.  Basically, Drupal's GeoField module stores geoms as
bytea, which the PostGIS functions seem to handle quite nicely without a
cast.  Ultimately, I will push to have the database column in GeoField
created as a Geometry type in order to be certain not to cause problems
with PostGIS functions.  But for the moment, I am trying to assess the
likelihood that some PostGIS function somewhere actually relies upon
something that's baked into the Geometry type.  I am focused on basic
relationship operators like contains, within, overlaps and intersects.

/r/b
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Re: [postgis-users] Topology: cannot delete slivers (or gaps)

2014-10-31 Thread Guillaume Drolet
Hi Sandro,

Thanks for your help!

topology.ValidateTopology gives this:

error  id1   id2
character varying integer integer
--   ---   
face has no rings 1831

If I calculate the area of face 1831
(st_area(st_getfacegeometry('de_20k_topo', face_id))), I get a NULL value.

I also find I have some 650 of these slivers with an area below 75 m2 while
most of my correct polygons have an area above 300 000 000 m2.

Re the edges passed to ST_NewEdgeHeal, in the example I sent it was edges
3908 and 3909.

If you think about something else that could be problematic, let me know.
Meanwhile I'll dig into the approach you suggested in your reply (i.e.
fixing TopoGeometry objects).

Thanks!

PS. Forgot to mention that in the first topology I had created, I used a
tolerance of 2.0 meters instead of 1e-4 meters. While that yielded much less
slivers, I was getting way more of those nodes not located at an
intersection. What is best?





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Re: [postgis-users] Difference between Geometry and BLOB in Postgis

2014-10-31 Thread Robert Burgholzer
OK cool.  So if I understand correctly, it seems that there may be no
immediate danger to the use of bytea, at the very least it is requiring an
implicit cast which may decrease performance.

Thanks for all the insight on this... will be rolling forward with an eye
towards migrating to geometry type in some future release.

On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Sandro Santilli s...@keybit.net wrote:

 On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 01:49:59PM -0400, Robert Burgholzer wrote:
  Working at the module level in Drupal, creating queries with spatial
  operators for Views.  Basically, Drupal's GeoField module stores geoms as
  bytea, which the PostGIS functions seem to handle quite nicely without
 a
  cast.

 The cast is there, only it's implicit.
 When you call a function, PostgreSQL looks for candidates.
 Example: you call ST_Length(bytea), PostgreSQL finds an
 ST_Length(geometry) and see if a cast from geometry to bytea exists
 and is tagged as allowed to be implicit, it finds it and calls it.

 You can see this yourself by creating your own ST_Length(bytea) function,
 in which case it'll be called instead of ST_Length(geometry).

 In case multiple candidates exist with the same number of implicit casts
 required, PostgreSQL will raise an error.

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