Re: [postgis-users] Can anyone interpret this error? ERROR: current transaction

2010-12-12 Thread Paul Ramsey
Robert, it will work, you'll just have to get it a different way. The
GeoServer and other components of the Suite will be happy to talk to
an independently installed PostGIS. Perhaps using the DebianGIS
packages you can get something that installs on the provider machines?
(I admit to relatively little Ubuntu knowledge) Meanwhile, as we
transition to providing the Linux Suite in packages, I will file away
that we need to build out earlier Ubuntu variants as well.

Paul

On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Robert Buckley
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the bad news. My server provider can´t for some reason install
> anything above 8.04!!
>
> I`ll ask him again tomorrow if there is a workaround to get 10.04 on the
> server partition, but if not, will that mean postgis will not work with
> opengeosuite on 8.04?
>
> That´ll be quite a let down!
>
> I quess I´ll have to do it the long way with geoserver postgresql and
> postgis separate install and 2 months of scratching my head.
>
> Thanks for the reply,
>
> Yours,
> Robert
>
>
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[postgis-users] Kyng chaos Postgis -- "PostGIS requires PostgreSQL 9.0."

2010-12-12 Thread fork
Hi all,

Not sure where else to ask -- I just installed Postgresql 9.0.1 from
the Kyngesbury site, now trying to install postgis, and I get this
error:

"PostGIS requires PostgreSQL 9.0."

Anyone have any ideas?  Does this mean "I can't find any postgres"? or
"I can't find the right version" or ???

Thanks!

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Re: [postgis-users] How to handle tiled rasters (ST_Value, grid_pt=>coord, coord=>grid_pt etc)?

2010-12-12 Thread Paragon Corporation
 
Stefan,


> The main characteristics to me have been, 1. if a coverage overlaps or
not, and 2. if it is a tiled image. The fact (1) of non-overlapping can
significantly speed up queries and the second would help to "reconstruct"
the original file. Both consequently
 > could to be stored in metadata.
I don't know enough about how the processing works to know if keeping track
of overlapping vs. non-overlapping would speed up queries.  Logically I can
see how it would help outputting the data into images, but I don't see how
it would 
Speed up queries. Well at least not the analytical queries
I'm thinking of where I would be selecting records with geometric intersect
queries or by attribute relationships.  I probably wouldn't be keeping
overlapping rasters in the same table unless I was relating each
specifically to some specific feature like the thermal pictures I took of
the racks in my network lab.

> In other words, if it's a tiled image, would'nt it be good practice to
store that in a single table (without any other images)?
> I  say this because I realize that it's possible to load many raster filed
into the same raster table even with different blocksize_x and blocksize_y
(in which case I wonder what get's stored in raster_columns).
The concept of an image file when you start talking about raster in the
database is amorphous and menaningless to me. 

For example I've got gigabytes of Massachusetts aerials I'd like to bring
into my database.  For convenience they have these distributed as even sized
tiles of say 5 mb in size each.  Once I bring it in, do I care how they had
it stored.
NOT REALLY except to reference back.  Most likely when I output it, I won't
even be outputting it in the same sizes they chose to.  Mine would be based
on some query where the user says -- give me the imagery for my building
block.

If I really cared, I would use the raster2pgsql switch that includes the
originating file name as a column in my raster table.
Then I could reconstitute with a command line something like

gdal_translate -of GTiff   PG:"host='localhost' port='5432'
dbname='mygisdb' user='postgres' password='whatever' schema='ch13'
table='vietelev' where="filename='relief.jpg'"

My syntax I haven't tested but you get the basic idea.

I most likely will chop it up much smaller than the 5 MB size because 5 MB
is too big for me to do the analysisi I want to do with it.  E.g. figuring
out how much grassy land is in Boston or extruding building footprints etc.
There choice of
How they decided to define what an image file is is pretty irrelevant to me
and I think to most people.  I could be wrong.

Will I keep all the files in the same table or separate tables?  I'd keep it
in the same table but bring them all in with the same block size etc which
the raster_columns does keep track of.  In fact I may bring them in at
different times.

An even crazier idea -- I may load different years in the same table -- but
I'd probably keep the block size the same if I were to keep them in the same
table.


> As you assumed below, my other example 'relief_jpg' is a single raster
(originally only 158K). How can I speed up the following query? It's a query
on one row and it takes indefinitely long:
> SELECT ST_Value(ST_Reclass(rast, 1, '1:2'), 1, 1) FROM relief_jpg;

Are you using the ST_Reclass currently in the scripts folder of raster?  I
think that is currently much slower than in needs to be.  Its especially
slow if you have your rast as a single record, because each change requires
a memcopy.
You would really need to chop it up.

> The subclause uses "... FROM relief_jpg) dummy" whereas in the where
clause there's "WHERE r_table_name = 'relief_jpg';".

> I simply thought this is an indication that there's some more information
that could be stored in the metadata, like the fact that the 240 tiles form
a single raster coverage and are non-overlapping.
> But I probably still have to think about all this.
I think there is still discussion going on about what and what shouldn't be
in raster_columns so I suspect the number of columns in that table will grow
before PostGIS 2.0 is out.  Good to think about these things now :)

Hope that helps,
Regina
http://www.postgis.us


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Re: [postgis-users] Can anyone interpret this error? ERROR: current transaction

2010-12-12 Thread Robert Buckley
Hi,

Thanks for the bad news. My server provider can´t for some reason install 
anything above 8.04!!

I`ll ask him again tomorrow if there is a workaround to get 10.04 on the server 
partition, but if not, will that mean postgis will not work with opengeosuite 
on 
8.04?

That´ll be quite a let down!

I quess I´ll have to do it the long way with geoserver postgresql and postgis 
separate install and 2 months of scratching my head.

Thanks for the reply,

Yours,
Robert


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Re: [postgis-users] How detect an empty geometry in a Collection.

2010-12-12 Thread Andrea Peri
>I don't know how to detect if the first or the second element are "geometry
>empty".

Resolved.

I can use the
ST_IsEmpty(ST_GeometryN(geom, 1))
ST_IsEmpty(ST_GeometryN(geom, 2))

to test the first and the second element of geom-collection.

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Re: [postgis-users] Can anyone interpret this error? ERROR: current transactio

2010-12-12 Thread Paul Ramsey
Robert, I just happened to remember what you're talking about :) but
in future you'll want to include a little more context. So that
explains it, since our build is happening on 10.4, we're building
binaries that expect a higher version of C++ than you have installed.

P.

On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Robert Buckley
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> Hi,
>
> Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy
>
> yours,
>
> Robert
>
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[postgis-users] Bandwidth

2010-12-12 Thread Bob Pawley
I have an interface accessing a Postgis database on my computer.

Is there some method of measuring the bandwidth of the communication between 
them??

Alternately, is there a rule of thumb that can be used to estimate bandwidth??

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[postgis-users] How detect an empty geometry in a Collection.

2010-12-12 Thread Andrea Peri
Hi,

I have some geometries where every element is a GeometryCollection like this
three examples:

 GeometryCollection(MultiLinestring empty, MultiLinestring(( x1 y1, ... , xn
yn))) ;
GeometryCollection(MultiLinestring(( x1 y1, ... , xn yn)), MultiLinestring((
x1 y1, ... , xn yn))) ;
GeometryCollection(MultiLinestring(( x1 y1, ... , xn yn)), MultiLinestring
empty) ;

These are all geometry-collection where every collection is composed of two
element and the first or the second could be a "geometry empty".

I don't know how to detect if the first or the second element are "geometry
empty".

I try with to apply the ST_Dump, but it seem to ignore the "geometry empty"
so it return only one record.

Thx,

Andrea.


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Re: [postgis-users] Can anyone interpret this error? ERROR: current transactio

2010-12-12 Thread Robert Buckley
Hi,

Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy


yours,

Robert


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