Re: [postgis-users] Are there any Ubuntu PPAs that serve PostGIS 2.0 beta releases?

2012-04-04 Thread Stephen V. Mather
So, is the below the best way to get the goodies of 2.0.0 for Ubuntu?  It’s a 
theoretical question, as I have GEOS and GDAL in place, but for the curious… .

 

Best,

Steve

 

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Subject: Re: [postgis-users] Are there any Ubuntu PPAs that serve PostGIS 2.0 
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On Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:40:00 AM UTC-7, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote:

Ok, I now have a nightly build set up that is tracking the PostGIS trunk. 
Binaries are being built for Oneric (11.11) and Precise (12.04-dev)

 
...

 

I will ponder upgrading GEOS and GDAL and setting up a stable build for the 
most recent beta releases.

 

The PostGIS nightly builds have been augmented with GEOS 3.3.2 and now include 
the topology plugin. GDAL 1.7.x is still being used from the official Ubuntu 
repositories. The installation steps are now:

 

sudo apt-add-repository ppa:sharpie/for-science  # To get GEOS 3.3.2

sudo apt-add-repository ppa:sharpie/postgis-nightly

sudo apt-get update

 

sudo apt-get install postgresql-9.1-postgis

 

 

The build of GEOS 3.3.2 was created using the following steps:

 

  * Forking the official Ubuntu sources for GEOS 3.2.2.

  * Backporting GEOS from Debian Wheezy to get to 3.3.1 along with associated 
packaging updates.

  * Merging in 3.3.2 from the official GEOS tarball.

 

This was accomplished by:

 

bzr branch lp:ubuntu/geos

cd geos

bzr merge debianlp:wheezy/geos

# De-stage all Debian patches prior to an upstream import

quilt pop -a

bzr merge-upstream  # Finds the latest GEOS tarball and merges it in!

quilt push -a # Fix any outdated patches.

 

 

I had to fix one patch conflict caused by the last command, but otherwise 
everything went smoothly.

 

GDAL is at 1.9.0 in Debian Experimental, but backporting looks like a moderate 
headache so I'm holding off for now. I may set up a stable build of PostGIS 
beta packages, but it looks like we are pretty close to 2.0 so I may wait until 
the official release. The nightly builds against the SVN trunk _should_ be 
pretty stable in the lead up to 2.0.

 

-Charlie

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Re: [postgis-users] Are there any Ubuntu PPAs that serve PostGIS 2.0 beta releases?

2012-03-16 Thread Denis Rouzaud

Good job Charlie!!!


On 03/15/2012 06:40 PM, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote:

On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:18:35 AM UTC-7, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote:

On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:02:24 AM UTC-7, Sandro Santilli
wrote:

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 07:50:32PM -0700, Charlie Sharpsteen
wrote:

 I was wondering if anyone has a Personal Package Archive for
Ubuntu that is
 tracking the 2.0 beta releases. I looked at the UbuntuGIS
and Postgis
 project pages on Launchpad, but the only releases listed
there were for
 1.5.x. Even the unstable repostory of UbuntuGIS was still
tracking 1.5.x.

I'm not aware of any. It'd be very welcome if you want to
setup one.

--strk;


Allright, I'll take a shot at it. Looks like there is a Launchpad
repository that is synching with PostGIS SVN every 6 hours or
so---perhaps I can get a nightly build set up.

-Charlie



Ok, I now have a nightly build set up that is tracking the PostGIS 
trunk. Binaries are being built for Oneric (11.11) and Precise 
(12.04-dev) and can be installed thusly:


sudo apt-add-repository ppa:sharpie/postgis-nightly
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install postgresql-9.1-postgis


Caveats:

  * No build of `postgis` or `libpostgis-java`, the only package
provided is `postgresql-9.1-postgis` which contains the PostGIS
plugins, extensions and command line tools.
  * Builds against GEOS 3.2.2, supplied by the standard Ubuntu
repositories, thus the topology extension is unavailable.
  * Builds against GDAL 1.7.0, supplied by the standard Ubuntu
repositories, thus some raster functionalities are unavailable.


The raw materials that went into creating this build were the PostGIS 
repository on Launchpad which synchs with the upstream SVN trunk 
~every 6 hours:


  https://code.launchpad.net/~registry/postgis/trunk

This repostory can be cloned using bazaar via `bzr branch lp:postgis`. 
The other component is the official Ubuntu PostGIS repository that 
contains the debian packaging materials:


  https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/postgis/precise

This repository can be cloned using `bzr branch lp:ubuntu/postgis`. My 
strategy was to fork `lp:ubuntu/postgis`, edit the contents of the 
debian subdirectory to make it compatible with 2.0-dev and then 
publish the edited fork to Launchpad under my `+junk` section. After 
this was done, I set up a `bzr-builder` recipe that fuses 
`lp:postigs`, which tracks the upstream PostGIS repo, with the debian 
subdirectory contained in `lp:~sharpie/+junk/postgis`, which contains 
my edited packaging info, to create a nightly build:


# bzr-builder format 0.3 deb-version 
{debupstream}~r{revno}~ppa{revno:packaging}

lp:postgis
nest-part packaging lp:~sharpie/+junk/postgis debian debian

Pretty slick. I will ponder upgrading GEOS and GDAL and setting up a 
stable build for the most recent beta releases.



-Charlie


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Re: [postgis-users] Are there any Ubuntu PPAs that serve PostGIS 2.0 beta releases?

2012-03-16 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:49:08AM -0700, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote:
 
 On Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:42:52 AM UTC-7, Stephen V. Mather wrote:
 
Pretty slick. I will ponder upgrading GEOS and GDAL and setting up a 
  stable build for the most recent beta releases.
 
  Wow.  That would be awesome.
 
 GDAL should be pretty simple. The problem with GEOS is that it is pretty 
 far down at the base of the GIS foodchain---so lots of libraries that are 
 used by GDAL also use GEOS and would need to be updated as well. I doubt I 
 will have the time to compile my way through everything between GEOS and 
 GDAL.

It really depends on whether they are using the C++ or C API.
C-API users work just fine with a newer GEOS.

Check out http://trac.osgeo.org/geos/wiki/Applications

And ask your preferred application to _stop_ using the C++ API :)

--strk; 

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Re: [postgis-users] Are there any Ubuntu PPAs that serve PostGIS 2.0 beta releases?

2012-03-16 Thread Charlie Sharpsteen
On Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:40:00 AM UTC-7, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote:

 Ok, I now have a nightly build set up that is tracking the PostGIS trunk. 
 Binaries are being built for Oneric (11.11) and Precise (12.04-dev)

 
 ...


 I will ponder upgrading GEOS and GDAL and setting up a stable build for 
 the most recent beta releases.


The PostGIS nightly builds have been augmented with GEOS 3.3.2 and now 
include the topology plugin. GDAL 1.7.x is still being used from the 
official Ubuntu repositories. The installation steps are now:

sudo apt-add-repository ppa:sharpie/for-science  # To get GEOS 3.3.2
sudo apt-add-repository ppa:sharpie/postgis-nightly
sudo apt-get update

sudo apt-get install postgresql-9.1-postgis


The build of GEOS 3.3.2 was created using the following steps:

  * Forking the official Ubuntu sources for GEOS 3.2.2.
  * Backporting GEOS from Debian Wheezy to get to 3.3.1 along with 
associated packaging updates.
  * Merging in 3.3.2 from the official GEOS tarball.

This was accomplished by:

bzr branch lp:ubuntu/geos
cd geos
bzr merge debianlp:wheezy/geos
# De-stage all Debian patches prior to an upstream import
quilt pop -a
bzr merge-upstream  # Finds the latest GEOS tarball and merges it in!
quilt push -a # Fix any outdated patches.


I had to fix one patch conflict caused by the last command, but otherwise 
everything went smoothly.

GDAL is at 1.9.0 in Debian Experimental, but backporting looks like a 
moderate headache so I'm holding off for now. I may set up a stable build 
of PostGIS beta packages, but it looks like we are pretty close to 2.0 so I 
may wait until the official release. The nightly builds against the SVN 
trunk _should_ be pretty stable in the lead up to 2.0.

-Charlie
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Re: [postgis-users] Are there any Ubuntu PPAs that serve PostGIS 2.0 beta releases?

2012-03-15 Thread Charlie Sharpsteen
On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:18:35 AM UTC-7, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote:

 On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:02:24 AM UTC-7, Sandro Santilli wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 07:50:32PM -0700, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote:

  I was wondering if anyone has a Personal Package Archive for Ubuntu 
 that is 
  tracking the 2.0 beta releases. I looked at the UbuntuGIS and Postgis 
  project pages on Launchpad, but the only releases listed there were for 
  1.5.x. Even the unstable repostory of UbuntuGIS was still tracking 
 1.5.x.

 I'm not aware of any. It'd be very welcome if you want to setup one.

 --strk;


 Allright, I'll take a shot at it. Looks like there is a Launchpad 
 repository that is synching with PostGIS SVN every 6 hours or so---perhaps 
 I can get a nightly build set up.

 -Charlie



Ok, I now have a nightly build set up that is tracking the PostGIS trunk. 
Binaries are being built for Oneric (11.11) and Precise (12.04-dev) and can 
be installed thusly:

sudo apt-add-repository ppa:sharpie/postgis-nightly
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install postgresql-9.1-postgis


Caveats:

   - No build of `postgis` or `libpostgis-java`, the only package provided 
   is `postgresql-9.1-postgis` which contains the PostGIS plugins, extensions 
   and command line tools.
   - Builds against GEOS 3.2.2, supplied by the standard Ubuntu 
   repositories, thus the topology extension is unavailable.
   - Builds against GDAL 1.7.0, supplied by the standard Ubuntu 
   repositories, thus some raster functionalities are unavailable.
   

The raw materials that went into creating this build were the PostGIS 
repository on Launchpad which synchs with the upstream SVN trunk ~every 6 
hours:

  https://code.launchpad.net/~registry/postgis/trunk

This repostory can be cloned using bazaar via `bzr branch lp:postgis`. The 
other component is the official Ubuntu PostGIS repository that contains the 
debian packaging materials:

  https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/postgis/precise

This repository can be cloned using `bzr branch lp:ubuntu/postgis`. My 
strategy was to fork `lp:ubuntu/postgis`, edit the contents of the debian 
subdirectory to make it compatible with 2.0-dev and then publish the edited 
fork to Launchpad under my `+junk` section. After this was done, I set up a 
`bzr-builder` recipe that fuses `lp:postigs`, which tracks the upstream 
PostGIS repo, with the debian subdirectory contained in 
`lp:~sharpie/+junk/postgis`, which contains my edited packaging info, to 
create a nightly build:

# bzr-builder format 0.3 deb-version 
{debupstream}~r{revno}~ppa{revno:packaging}
lp:postgis
nest-part packaging lp:~sharpie/+junk/postgis debian debian

Pretty slick. I will ponder upgrading GEOS and GDAL and setting up a stable 
build for the most recent beta releases.


-Charlie
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Re: [postgis-users] Are there any Ubuntu PPAs that serve PostGIS 2.0 beta releases?

2012-03-15 Thread Stephen V. Mather
 Pretty slick. I will ponder upgrading GEOS and GDAL and setting up a stable 
 build for the most recent beta releases.

 

Wow.  That would be awesome.

 

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Re: [postgis-users] Are there any Ubuntu PPAs that serve PostGIS 2.0 beta releases?

2012-03-15 Thread Charlie Sharpsteen

On Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:42:52 AM UTC-7, Stephen V. Mather wrote:

   Pretty slick. I will ponder upgrading GEOS and GDAL and setting up a 
 stable build for the most recent beta releases.

  

 Wow.  That would be awesome.


GDAL should be pretty simple. The problem with GEOS is that it is pretty 
far down at the base of the GIS foodchain---so lots of libraries that are 
used by GDAL also use GEOS and would need to be updated as well. I doubt I 
will have the time to compile my way through everything between GEOS and 
GDAL.

-Charlie
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Re: [postgis-users] Are there any Ubuntu PPAs that serve PostGIS 2.0 beta releases?

2012-03-15 Thread Skye Book
Looks awesome, Charlie.  I'll definitely be giving this a shot today :)

-Skye

On Mar 15, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote:

 On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:18:35 AM UTC-7, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote:
 On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:02:24 AM UTC-7, Sandro Santilli wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 07:50:32PM -0700, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote:
  I was wondering if anyone has a Personal Package Archive for Ubuntu that is 
  tracking the 2.0 beta releases. I looked at the UbuntuGIS and Postgis 
  project pages on Launchpad, but the only releases listed there were for 
  1.5.x. Even the unstable repostory of UbuntuGIS was still tracking 1.5.x.
 
 I'm not aware of any. It'd be very welcome if you want to setup one.
 
 --strk;
 
 
 Allright, I'll take a shot at it. Looks like there is a Launchpad repository 
 that is synching with PostGIS SVN every 6 hours or so---perhaps I can get a 
 nightly build set up.
 
 -Charlie
 
 
 Ok, I now have a nightly build set up that is tracking the PostGIS trunk. 
 Binaries are being built for Oneric (11.11) and Precise (12.04-dev) and can 
 be installed thusly:
 
 sudo apt-add-repository ppa:sharpie/postgis-nightly
 sudo apt-get update
 sudo apt-get install postgresql-9.1-postgis
 
 
 Caveats:
 No build of `postgis` or `libpostgis-java`, the only package provided is 
 `postgresql-9.1-postgis` which contains the PostGIS plugins, extensions and 
 command line tools.
 Builds against GEOS 3.2.2, supplied by the standard Ubuntu repositories, thus 
 the topology extension is unavailable.
 Builds against GDAL 1.7.0, supplied by the standard Ubuntu repositories, thus 
 some raster functionalities are unavailable.
 
 The raw materials that went into creating this build were the PostGIS 
 repository on Launchpad which synchs with the upstream SVN trunk ~every 6 
 hours:
 
   https://code.launchpad.net/~registry/postgis/trunk
 
 This repostory can be cloned using bazaar via `bzr branch lp:postgis`. The 
 other component is the official Ubuntu PostGIS repository that contains the 
 debian packaging materials:
 
   https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/postgis/precise
 
 This repository can be cloned using `bzr branch lp:ubuntu/postgis`. My 
 strategy was to fork `lp:ubuntu/postgis`, edit the contents of the debian 
 subdirectory to make it compatible with 2.0-dev and then publish the edited 
 fork to Launchpad under my `+junk` section. After this was done, I set up a 
 `bzr-builder` recipe that fuses `lp:postigs`, which tracks the upstream 
 PostGIS repo, with the debian subdirectory contained in 
 `lp:~sharpie/+junk/postgis`, which contains my edited packaging info, to 
 create a nightly build:
 
 # bzr-builder format 0.3 deb-version 
 {debupstream}~r{revno}~ppa{revno:packaging}
 lp:postgis
 nest-part packaging lp:~sharpie/+junk/postgis debian debian
 
 Pretty slick. I will ponder upgrading GEOS and GDAL and setting up a stable 
 build for the most recent beta releases.
 
 
 -Charlie
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Re: [postgis-users] Are there any Ubuntu PPAs that serve PostGIS 2.0 beta releases?

2012-03-15 Thread Bborie Park



On 03/15/2012 11:49 AM, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote:


On Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:42:52 AM UTC-7, Stephen V. Mather wrote:


Pretty slick. I will ponder upgrading GEOS and GDAL and setting up a
stable build for the most recent beta releases.



Wow.  That would be awesome.



GDAL should be pretty simple. The problem with GEOS is that it is pretty
far down at the base of the GIS foodchain---so lots of libraries that are
used by GDAL also use GEOS and would need to be updated as well. I doubt I
will have the time to compile my way through everything between GEOS and
GDAL.



I wouldn't worry too much about other software that would depend on 
GEOS.  Just build the toolchain you need and if someone else uses parts 
of your toolchain, it would be their problem to resolve conflicts.


-bborie

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Re: [postgis-users] Are there any Ubuntu PPAs that serve PostGIS 2.0 beta releases?

2012-03-14 Thread Peter Hopfgartner

On 03/14/2012 03:50 AM, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote:

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone has a Personal Package Archive for Ubuntu 
that is tracking the 2.0 beta releases. I looked at the UbuntuGIS and 
Postgis project pages on Launchpad, but the only releases listed there 
were for 1.5.x. Even the unstable repostory of UbuntuGIS was still 
tracking 1.5.x.


-Charlie


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I packaged the beta2 for RHEL/CentOS 6, but they are completly untested, 
due to a almost complete lack of time.


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Re: [postgis-users] Are there any Ubuntu PPAs that serve PostGIS 2.0 beta releases?

2012-03-14 Thread Charlie Sharpsteen
On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:02:24 AM UTC-7, Sandro Santilli wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 07:50:32PM -0700, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote:

  I was wondering if anyone has a Personal Package Archive for Ubuntu that 
 is 
  tracking the 2.0 beta releases. I looked at the UbuntuGIS and Postgis 
  project pages on Launchpad, but the only releases listed there were for 
  1.5.x. Even the unstable repostory of UbuntuGIS was still tracking 1.5.x.

 I'm not aware of any. It'd be very welcome if you want to setup one.

 --strk;


Allright, I'll take a shot at it. Looks like there is a Launchpad 
repository that is synching with PostGIS SVN every 6 hours or so---perhaps 
I can get a nightly build set up.

-Charlie
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Re: [postgis-users] Are there any Ubuntu PPAs that serve PostGIS 2.0 beta releases?

2012-03-14 Thread Denis Rouzaud

That would be amazing.
But, there is no ppa for geos 3.3 either and I am not sure about gdal 1.9...
It might be a little early to have a ppa repo and dependencies with 
unavailable packages


My 2 cents.

On 03/14/2012 04:18 PM, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote:

On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:02:24 AM UTC-7, Sandro Santilli wrote:

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 07:50:32PM -0700, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote:

 I was wondering if anyone has a Personal Package Archive for
Ubuntu that is
 tracking the 2.0 beta releases. I looked at the UbuntuGIS and
Postgis
 project pages on Launchpad, but the only releases listed there
were for
 1.5.x. Even the unstable repostory of UbuntuGIS was still
tracking 1.5.x.

I'm not aware of any. It'd be very welcome if you want to setup one.

--strk;


Allright, I'll take a shot at it. Looks like there is a Launchpad 
repository that is synching with PostGIS SVN every 6 hours or 
so---perhaps I can get a nightly build set up.


-Charlie


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Re: [postgis-users] Are there any Ubuntu PPAs that serve PostGIS 2.0 beta releases?

2012-03-14 Thread Charlie Sharpsteen
On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:21:48 AM UTC-7, Denis Rouzaud wrote:

  That would be amazing.
 But, there is no ppa for geos 3.3 either and I am not sure about gdal 
 1.9...
 It might be a little early to have a ppa repo and dependencies with 
 unavailable packages

 My 2 cents.

 
Pretty sure I built PostGIS from source against GDAL 1.7 and GEOS 3.2.2 
from the Oneiric standard repository.

Are there any critical functions that are inactive without the latest and 
greatest versions of these libraries?

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Re: [postgis-users] Are there any Ubuntu PPAs that serve PostGIS 2.0 beta releases?

2012-03-14 Thread Denis Rouzaud
You are right, but there notices in 
http://postgis.refractions.net/documentation/manual-svn/postgis_installation.html#id2744974


GEOS geometry library, version 3.2.2 or greater, but GEOS 3.3.2+ is 
recommended. Without GEOS 3.3, you will be missing some major 
enhancements with handling of topological exceptions and improvements to 
geometry validation and making geometries valid such as ST_ValidDetail 
and ST_MakeValid. GEOS 3.3.2+ is also required for topology support. 
GEOS is available for download fromhttp://trac.osgeo.org/geos/and 3.3+ 
is backward-compatible with older versions so fairly safe to upgrade.


GDAL, version 1.6 or higher (1.9 or higher is preferable since some 
things will not work well with lower versions). This is needed for 
raster support and will be required in final release of PostGIS 
2.0.http://trac.osgeo.org/gdal/wiki/DownloadSource.


I am no expert, but I am not sure it's good idea to deliver builds of 
postgis in a sub-optimal config.






On 03/14/2012 04:29 PM, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote:

On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:21:48 AM UTC-7, Denis Rouzaud wrote:

That would be amazing.
But, there is no ppa for geos 3.3 either and I am not sure about
gdal 1.9...
It might be a little early to have a ppa repo and dependencies
with unavailable packages

My 2 cents.

Pretty sure I built PostGIS from source against GDAL 1.7 and GEOS 
3.2.2 from the Oneiric standard repository.


Are there any critical functions that are inactive without the latest 
and greatest versions of these libraries?


-Charlie


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Re: [postgis-users] Are there any Ubuntu PPAs that serve PostGIS 2.0 beta releases?

2012-03-14 Thread Skye Book
As of some time during the alpha releases, it started wanting Geos 3.3..  Not 
sure what functionality is touching the dependency thiough

-Skye

On Mar 14, 2012, at 11:29 AM, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote:

 On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:21:48 AM UTC-7, Denis Rouzaud wrote:
 That would be amazing.
 But, there is no ppa for geos 3.3 either and I am not sure about gdal 1.9...
 It might be a little early to have a ppa repo and dependencies with 
 unavailable packages
 
 My 2 cents.
  
 Pretty sure I built PostGIS from source against GDAL 1.7 and GEOS 3.2.2 from 
 the Oneiric standard repository.
 
 Are there any critical functions that are inactive without the latest and 
 greatest versions of these libraries?
 
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Re: [postgis-users] Are there any Ubuntu PPAs that serve PostGIS 2.0 beta releases?

2012-03-14 Thread Charlie Sharpsteen

On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:32:50 AM UTC-7, Denis Rouzaud wrote:

  You are right, but there notices in 
 http://postgis.refractions.net/documentation/manual-svn/postgis_installation.html#id2744974

 GEOS geometry library, version 3.2.2 or greater, but GEOS 3.3.2+ is 
 recommended. Without GEOS 3.3, you will be missing some major enhancements 
 with handling of topological exceptions and improvements to geometry 
 validation and making geometries valid such as ST_ValidDetail and 
 ST_MakeValid. GEOS 3.3.2+ is also required for topology support. GEOS is 
 available for download fromhttp://trac.osgeo.org/geos/ 
 http://trac.osgeo.org/geos/and 
 3.3+ is backward-compatible with older versions so fairly safe to upgrade.

 GDAL, version 1.6 or higher (1.9 or higher is preferable since some things 
 will not work well with lower versions). This is needed for raster support 
 and will be required in final release of PostGIS 2.0. 
 http://trac.osgeo.org/gdal/wiki/DownloadSource.

 I am no expert, but I am not sure it's good idea to deliver builds of 
 postgis in a sub-optimal config. 


Well, a sub-optimal build gets more work done than no build any day of the 
week. Plus, all of this work has to be done eventually---easier to improve 
something than start from scratch.

It does look like a GDAL upgrade to 1.9 would be a good idea though if the 
final version will require it. I have plenty of experience building this 
stuff from maintaining most of the GIS stack for the Homebrew package 
manager on OS X. Entirely new to Debian packaging though, so that will slow 
me down quite a bit.

-Charlie

On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:32:50 AM UTC-7, Denis Rouzaud wrote:

  You are right, but there notices in 
 http://postgis.refractions.net/documentation/manual-svn/postgis_installation.html#id2744974

 GEOS geometry library, version 3.2.2 or greater, but GEOS 3.3.2+ is 
 recommended. Without GEOS 3.3, you will be missing some major enhancements 
 with handling of topological exceptions and improvements to geometry 
 validation and making geometries valid such as ST_ValidDetail and 
 ST_MakeValid. GEOS 3.3.2+ is also required for topology support. GEOS is 
 available for download fromhttp://trac.osgeo.org/geos/ 
 http://trac.osgeo.org/geos/and 
 3.3+ is backward-compatible with older versions so fairly safe to upgrade.

 GDAL, version 1.6 or higher (1.9 or higher is preferable since some things 
 will not work well with lower versions). This is needed for raster support 
 and will be required in final release of PostGIS 2.0. 
 http://trac.osgeo.org/gdal/wiki/DownloadSource.

 I am no expert, but I am not sure it's good idea to deliver builds of 
 postgis in a sub-optimal config.





 On 03/14/2012 04:29 PM, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote: 

 On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:21:48 AM UTC-7, Denis Rouzaud wrote: 

  That would be amazing.
 But, there is no ppa for geos 3.3 either and I am not sure about gdal 
 1.9...
 It might be a little early to have a ppa repo and dependencies with 
 unavailable packages

 My 2 cents.
  
  
 Pretty sure I built PostGIS from source against GDAL 1.7 and GEOS 3.2.2 
 from the Oneiric standard repository.

  Are there any critical functions that are inactive without the latest 
 and greatest versions of these libraries?

  -Charlie 

  
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Re: [postgis-users] Are there any Ubuntu PPAs that serve PostGIS 2.0 beta releases?

2012-03-14 Thread Charlie Sharpsteen
On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:40:22 AM UTC-7, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote:

 It does look like a GDAL upgrade to 1.9 would be a good idea though if the 
 final version will require it. I have plenty of experience building this 
 stuff from maintaining most of the GIS stack for the Homebrew package 
 manager on OS X. Entirely new to Debian packaging though, so that will slow 
 me down quite a bit.

 -Charlie


Actually, after re-reading the installation notes, it doesn't look like 
GDAL 1.9 is mandatory---just that GDAL = 1.6 will be mandatory once 
PostGIS 2.0 is released.

-Charlie 
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Re: [postgis-users] Are there any Ubuntu PPAs that serve PostGIS 2.0 beta releases?

2012-03-14 Thread Charlie Sharpsteen
On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:44:16 AM UTC-7, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote:

 On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:40:22 AM UTC-7, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote:

 It does look like a GDAL upgrade to 1.9 would be a good idea though if 
 the final version will require it. I have plenty of experience building 
 this stuff from maintaining most of the GIS stack for the Homebrew package 
 manager on OS X. Entirely new to Debian packaging though, so that will slow 
 me down quite a bit.

 -Charlie


 Actually, after re-reading the installation notes, it doesn't look like 
 GDAL 1.9 is mandatory---just that GDAL = 1.6 will be mandatory once 
 PostGIS 2.0 is released.

 -Charlie


Allright, took a few jabs at this and here is what I have found so far:

  - Without GEOS 3.3.2, PostGIS must be configured `--without-topology` so 
this definitely knocks out a big chunk of 2.0 functionality.

  - 2.0.0beta2 can compile against the dependencies supplied for PostGIS 
1.5.x via `apt-get build-dep postgis` with the addition of GDAL 1.7.0 via 
`apt-get install libgdal1-dev`. However, 2.0.0beta3, released today, and 
the current SVN head fail during configure:


RASTER: Raster support requested
checking for GDAL = 1.6.0... found
checking gdal.h usability... yes
checking gdal.h presence... yes
checking for gdal.h... yes
checking ogr_api.h usability... yes
checking ogr_api.h presence... yes
checking for ogr_api.h... yes
checking cpl_conv.h usability... yes
checking cpl_conv.h presence... yes
checking for cpl_conv.h... yes
checking for GDALAllRegister in -lgdal... no
configure: error: could not find gdal


This is odd, because running nm against the libraries shows that the symbol 
is there:

vagrant@vagrant-64:~/postgis-2.0.0beta3$ nm --dynamic 
/usr/lib/libgdal1.7.0.so | grep GDALAllRegister
0021a820 T GDALAllRegister


Don't know if this is a bug in the latest beta, or a problem with Ubuntu's 
GDAL 1.7.0 libraries. Any advice would be appreciated.


-Charlie
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Re: [postgis-users] Are there any Ubuntu PPAs that serve PostGIS 2.0 beta releases?

2012-03-14 Thread Bborie Park

On 03/14/2012 01:00 PM, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote:

On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:44:16 AM UTC-7, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote:


On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:40:22 AM UTC-7, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote:


It does look like a GDAL upgrade to 1.9 would be a good idea though if
the final version will require it. I have plenty of experience building
this stuff from maintaining most of the GIS stack for the Homebrew package
manager on OS X. Entirely new to Debian packaging though, so that will slow
me down quite a bit.

-Charlie



Actually, after re-reading the installation notes, it doesn't look like
GDAL 1.9 is mandatory---just that GDAL= 1.6 will be mandatory once
PostGIS 2.0 is released.

-Charlie



Allright, took a few jabs at this and here is what I have found so far:

   - Without GEOS 3.3.2, PostGIS must be configured `--without-topology` so
this definitely knocks out a big chunk of 2.0 functionality.

   - 2.0.0beta2 can compile against the dependencies supplied for PostGIS
1.5.x via `apt-get build-dep postgis` with the addition of GDAL 1.7.0 via
`apt-get install libgdal1-dev`. However, 2.0.0beta3, released today, and
the current SVN head fail during configure:


RASTER: Raster support requested
checking for GDAL= 1.6.0... found
checking gdal.h usability... yes
checking gdal.h presence... yes
checking for gdal.h... yes
checking ogr_api.h usability... yes
checking ogr_api.h presence... yes
checking for ogr_api.h... yes
checking cpl_conv.h usability... yes
checking cpl_conv.h presence... yes
checking for cpl_conv.h... yes
checking for GDALAllRegister in -lgdal... no
configure: error: could not find gdal


This is odd, because running nm against the libraries shows that the symbol
is there:

vagrant@vagrant-64:~/postgis-2.0.0beta3$ nm --dynamic
/usr/lib/libgdal1.7.0.so | grep GDALAllRegister
0021a820 T GDALAllRegister


Don't know if this is a bug in the latest beta, or a problem with Ubuntu's
GDAL 1.7.0 libraries. Any advice would be appreciated.




I'd call it a bug in Ubuntu's GDAL.  If you called

gdal-config --libs

the output is

-L/usr/lib -lgdal1.7.0

which is something special for the debian/Ubuntu packages.  It probably 
is so that you can have multiple GDAL library packages.


I just fixed this earlier today (after Beta3 got released) for someone 
on IRC.  Try r9499.


-bborie

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Re: [postgis-users] Are there any Ubuntu PPAs that serve PostGIS 2.0 beta releases?

2012-03-14 Thread Stephen V. Mather
For compiling 2.0 for Ubuntu, I’d recommend doing a custom build of GDAL 1.9 
with GEOS 3.3.2—otherwise you’ll have the package manager bringing in GEOS 
3.2.x for GDAL 1.7, and then you’ll have two GEOS libraries floating out there… 
.  Might fix the problem below too.

 

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Geographic Information Systems (GIS) Manager
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From: postgis-users-boun...@postgis.refractions.net 
[mailto:postgis-users-boun...@postgis.refractions.net] On Behalf Of Charlie 
Sharpsteen
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 4:01 PM
To: postgis-us...@googlegroups.com
Cc: Charlie Sharpsteen; PostGIS Users Discussion
Subject: Re: [postgis-users] Are there any Ubuntu PPAs that serve PostGIS 2.0 
beta releases?

 

On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:44:16 AM UTC-7, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote:

On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:40:22 AM UTC-7, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote:

It does look like a GDAL upgrade to 1.9 would be a good idea though if the 
final version will require it. I have plenty of experience building this stuff 
from maintaining most of the GIS stack for the Homebrew package manager on OS 
X. Entirely new to Debian packaging though, so that will slow me down quite a 
bit.

 

-Charlie

 

Actually, after re-reading the installation notes, it doesn't look like GDAL 
1.9 is mandatory---just that GDAL = 1.6 will be mandatory once PostGIS 2.0 is 
released.

 

-Charlie

 

Allright, took a few jabs at this and here is what I have found so far:

 

  - Without GEOS 3.3.2, PostGIS must be configured `--without-topology` so this 
definitely knocks out a big chunk of 2.0 functionality.

 

  - 2.0.0beta2 can compile against the dependencies supplied for PostGIS 1.5.x 
via `apt-get build-dep postgis` with the addition of GDAL 1.7.0 via `apt-get 
install libgdal1-dev`. However, 2.0.0beta3, released today, and the current SVN 
head fail during configure:

 

 

RASTER: Raster support requested

checking for GDAL = 1.6.0... found

checking gdal.h usability... yes

checking gdal.h presence... yes

checking for gdal.h... yes

checking ogr_api.h usability... yes

checking ogr_api.h presence... yes

checking for ogr_api.h... yes

checking cpl_conv.h usability... yes

checking cpl_conv.h presence... yes

checking for cpl_conv.h... yes

checking for GDALAllRegister in -lgdal... no

configure: error: could not find gdal

 

 

This is odd, because running nm against the libraries shows that the symbol is 
there:

 

vagrant@vagrant-64:~/postgis-2.0.0beta3$ nm --dynamic /usr/lib/libgdal1.7.0.so 
| grep GDALAllRegister

0021a820 T GDALAllRegister

 

 

Don't know if this is a bug in the latest beta, or a problem with Ubuntu's GDAL 
1.7.0 libraries. Any advice would be appreciated.

 

 

-Charlie

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Re: [postgis-users] Are there any Ubuntu PPAs that serve PostGIS 2.0 beta releases?

2012-03-14 Thread Charlie Sharpsteen
On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 1:00:37 PM UTC-7, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote:

   - 2.0.0beta2 can compile against the dependencies supplied for PostGIS 
 1.5.x via `apt-get build-dep postgis` with the addition of GDAL 1.7.0 via 
 `apt-get install libgdal1-dev`. However, 2.0.0beta3, released today, and 
 the current SVN head fail during configure:


 RASTER: Raster support requested
 checking for GDAL = 1.6.0... found
 checking gdal.h usability... yes
 checking gdal.h presence... yes
 checking for gdal.h... yes
 checking ogr_api.h usability... yes
 checking ogr_api.h presence... yes
 checking for ogr_api.h... yes
 checking cpl_conv.h usability... yes
 checking cpl_conv.h presence... yes
 checking for cpl_conv.h... yes
 checking for GDALAllRegister in -lgdal... no
 configure: error: could not find gdal


 This is odd, because running nm against the libraries shows that the 
 symbol is there:

 vagrant@vagrant-64:~/postgis-2.0.0beta3$ nm --dynamic /usr/lib/
 libgdal1.7.0.so | grep GDALAllRegister
 0021a820 T GDALAllRegister


 Don't know if this is a bug in the latest beta, or a problem with Ubuntu's 
 GDAL 1.7.0 libraries. Any advice would be appreciated.


 -Charlie


Found the problem in config.log:


configure:19617: gcc -o conftest  -I/usr/include/gdal  conftest.c 
-lgdal  -L/usr/lib -lgdal1.7.0 5
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgdal


The configure script is trying to link against both libgdal and 
libgdal1.7.0, but libgdal.so does not exist, only libgdal1.7.0.so. 
According to config.log, this has been identified and stored in 
LIBGDAL_LDFLAGS:


LIBGDAL_LDFLAGS='-L/usr/lib -lgdal1.7.0'


But the test scripts are still trying to pass `-lgdal`. Looks like a bug in 
the PostGIS configure script.


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Re: [postgis-users] Are there any Ubuntu PPAs that serve PostGIS 2.0 beta releases?

2012-03-14 Thread Charlie Sharpsteen

On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 1:05:14 PM UTC-7, Sandro Santilli wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 01:00:37PM -0700, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote:

- Without GEOS 3.3.2, PostGIS must be configured `--without-topology` 
 so 
  this definitely knocks out a big chunk of 2.0 functionality.

 Yep, what about a GEOS ppa ?

 --strk;


Possible, but i'm trying to start simple---the fewer plates spinning on the 
stage the better.

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Re: [postgis-users] Are there any Ubuntu PPAs that serve PostGIS 2.0 beta releases?

2012-03-14 Thread Skye Book
Yeah, this is what was fixed in r9499 by using the autoconf lib search or 
whatever the command is..

It indeed builds, but the regression tests fail..

-Skye

On Mar 14, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote:

 On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 1:00:37 PM UTC-7, Charlie Sharpsteen wrote:
   - 2.0.0beta2 can compile against the dependencies supplied for PostGIS 
 1.5.x via `apt-get build-dep postgis` with the addition of GDAL 1.7.0 via 
 `apt-get install libgdal1-dev`. However, 2.0.0beta3, released today, and the 
 current SVN head fail during configure:
 
 
 RASTER: Raster support requested
 checking for GDAL = 1.6.0... found
 checking gdal.h usability... yes
 checking gdal.h presence... yes
 checking for gdal.h... yes
 checking ogr_api.h usability... yes
 checking ogr_api.h presence... yes
 checking for ogr_api.h... yes
 checking cpl_conv.h usability... yes
 checking cpl_conv.h presence... yes
 checking for cpl_conv.h... yes
 checking for GDALAllRegister in -lgdal... no
 configure: error: could not find gdal
 
 
 This is odd, because running nm against the libraries shows that the symbol 
 is there:
 
 vagrant@vagrant-64:~/postgis-2.0.0beta3$ nm --dynamic 
 /usr/lib/libgdal1.7.0.so | grep GDALAllRegister
 0021a820 T GDALAllRegister
 
 
 Don't know if this is a bug in the latest beta, or a problem with Ubuntu's 
 GDAL 1.7.0 libraries. Any advice would be appreciated.
 
 
 -Charlie
 
 Found the problem in config.log:
 
 
 configure:19617: gcc -o conftest  -I/usr/include/gdal  conftest.c -lgdal  
 -L/usr/lib -lgdal1.7.0 5
 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgdal
 
 
 The configure script is trying to link against both libgdal and libgdal1.7.0, 
 but libgdal.so does not exist, only libgdal1.7.0.so. According to config.log, 
 this has been identified and stored in LIBGDAL_LDFLAGS:
 
 
 LIBGDAL_LDFLAGS='-L/usr/lib -lgdal1.7.0'
 
 
 But the test scripts are still trying to pass `-lgdal`. Looks like a bug in 
 the PostGIS configure script.
 
 
 -Charlie
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[postgis-users] Are there any Ubuntu PPAs that serve PostGIS 2.0 beta releases?

2012-03-13 Thread Charlie Sharpsteen
Hello,

I was wondering if anyone has a Personal Package Archive for Ubuntu that is 
tracking the 2.0 beta releases. I looked at the UbuntuGIS and Postgis 
project pages on Launchpad, but the only releases listed there were for 
1.5.x. Even the unstable repostory of UbuntuGIS was still tracking 1.5.x.

-Charlie
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