Re: [postgis-users] Shapefiles exported from PostGIS and ESRI ArcView 9 compatibility

2011-07-25 Thread Stephen Woodbridge

On 7/21/2011 3:23 AM, Ben Madin wrote:

G'dat all,

We have a client (potential client) who wants some mapping done and
the maps returned in shapefile format. In the contract they insist on
specifying that the shapefiles are compatible with ESRI's ArcView
version 9 (their words, not mine).

I don't have ESRI's ArcView version 9, and don't intend on spending
that sort of money (more than the contract is worth). However, I'm
sure that if what we send back doesn't open in ESRI's ArcView
version 9 it will become our problem.

Does anyone have any reason to suspect that a shapefile created using
valid OGC geometry in PostGIS and exported using pgsql2shp would not
or might not work on ESRI's ArcView version 9?

Are there any issues that someone who is across platforms can help me
with?

(I routinely use shapefiles created using valid OGC geometry in
PostGIS and exported using pgsql2shp in QGIS and MapServer and send
them to other people, so I have no reason to be concerned except that
the client insists on this line remaining the contract!)


Hi Ben,

I use ArcGIS Explorer and it will not open shapefiles that do not have 
.prj file. What I do in this case if to just write a script that 
generates that appropriate .prj that I need. The other option that might 
be work better for you is to use ogr2ogr to export the postgis table 
into a shapefile as I believe that will write the .prj file appropriately.


-Steve W
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Re: [postgis-users] Shapefiles exported from PostGIS and ESRI ArcView 9 compatibility

2011-07-25 Thread Paragon Corporation
Steve,

Is your pgsql2shp not exporting .prj files?  It should be if you are
exporting an sql query or table/view with a known srid and all records have
the same srid. It should be doing this from version PostGIS 1.3.6 on.  I
wrote that logic because I had similar issues with users using ArcMap not
being able to overlay the exports with their other data layers.

Thanks,
Regina
http://www.postgis.us

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ArcView 9 compatibility

On 7/21/2011 3:23 AM, Ben Madin wrote:
 G'dat all,

 We have a client (potential client) who wants some mapping done and
 the maps returned in shapefile format. In the contract they insist on
 specifying that the shapefiles are compatible with ESRI's ArcView
 version 9 (their words, not mine).

 I don't have ESRI's ArcView version 9, and don't intend on spending
 that sort of money (more than the contract is worth). However, I'm
 sure that if what we send back doesn't open in ESRI's ArcView
 version 9 it will become our problem.

 Does anyone have any reason to suspect that a shapefile created using
 valid OGC geometry in PostGIS and exported using pgsql2shp would not
 or might not work on ESRI's ArcView version 9?

 Are there any issues that someone who is across platforms can help me
 with?

 (I routinely use shapefiles created using valid OGC geometry in
 PostGIS and exported using pgsql2shp in QGIS and MapServer and send
 them to other people, so I have no reason to be concerned except that
 the client insists on this line remaining the contract!)

Hi Ben,

I use ArcGIS Explorer and it will not open shapefiles that do not have 
.prj file. What I do in this case if to just write a script that 
generates that appropriate .prj that I need. The other option that might 
be work better for you is to use ogr2ogr to export the postgis table 
into a shapefile as I believe that will write the .prj file appropriately.

-Steve W
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[postgis-users] Shapefiles exported from PostGIS and ESRI ArcView 9 compatibility

2011-07-21 Thread Ben Madin
G'dat all,

We have a client (potential client) who wants some mapping done and the maps 
returned in shapefile format. In the contract they insist on specifying that 
the shapefiles are compatible with ESRI's ArcView version 9 (their words, not 
mine). 

I don't have ESRI's ArcView version 9, and don't intend on spending that sort 
of money (more than the contract is worth). However, I'm sure that if what we 
send back doesn't open in ESRI's ArcView version 9 it will become our 
problem. 

Does anyone have any reason to suspect that a shapefile created using valid OGC 
geometry in PostGIS and exported using pgsql2shp would not or might not work on 
ESRI's ArcView version 9?

Are there any issues that someone who is across platforms can help me with?

(I routinely use shapefiles created using valid OGC geometry in PostGIS and 
exported using pgsql2shp in QGIS and MapServer and send them to other people, 
so I have no reason to be concerned except that the client insists on this line 
remaining the contract!)

cheers

Ben


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Re: [postgis-users] Shapefiles exported from PostGIS and ESRI ArcView 9 compatibility

2011-07-21 Thread Peter Hopfgartner
Since there is no official spec for shapefiles, there are some 
differences between the different shapefiles producers and consumers.
Shapefiles produced with current PostGIS 1.5.3 should be reasonable 
ready for ArcView. We, and even more some of our customers, open PostGIS 
produced Shapefiles with ESRI product regularly.


Peter

On 07/21/2011 09:23 AM, Ben Madin wrote:

G'dat all,

We have a client (potential client) who wants some mapping done and the maps returned in 
shapefile format. In the contract they insist on specifying that the shapefiles are 
compatible with ESRI's ArcView version 9 (their words, not mine).

I don't have ESRI's ArcView version 9, and don't intend on spending that sort of money 
(more than the contract is worth). However, I'm sure that if what we send back doesn't open in 
ESRI's ArcView version 9 it will become our problem.

Does anyone have any reason to suspect that a shapefile created using valid OGC geometry 
in PostGIS and exported using pgsql2shp would not or might not work on ESRI's 
ArcView version 9?

Are there any issues that someone who is across platforms can help me with?

(I routinely use shapefiles created using valid OGC geometry in PostGIS and 
exported using pgsql2shp in QGIS and MapServer and send them to other people, 
so I have no reason to be concerned except that the client insists on this line 
remaining the contract!)

cheers

Ben


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Re: [postgis-users] Shapefiles exported from PostGIS and ESRI ArcView 9 compatibility

2011-07-21 Thread Maria Arias de Reyna
El Jueves 21 Julio 2011, Ben Madin escribió:
 We have a client (potential client) who wants some mapping done and the
 maps returned in shapefile format. In the contract they insist on
 specifying that the shapefiles are compatible with ESRI's ArcView version
 9 (their words, not mine). 

If ArcView has no public specification of their Shapefiles, you can always tell 
your potential client all the problems derivated from using a privative and 
dark format. In fact, you *should* at least mention it.

It will save you a lot of troubles in the future. If you explain it right, 
clients usually understand it and _sometimes_ they agree to move to open 
formats.


Anyway, you should ask your client for a couple of examples of their shapefiles 
and compare them with yours. Maybe the difference is small and you can post-
process your generated shapefiles to adjust them.

-- 
María Arias de Reyna Domínguez
Área de Operaciones

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Re: [postgis-users] Shapefiles exported from PostGIS and ESRI ArcView 9 compatibility

2011-07-21 Thread Andreas Forø Tollefsen
I am unsure about the details, but can only talk for myself. I have exported
a lot of PostGIS data to shapefiles without ever having a problem.
Both geometry and attribute table seem to be working without a hitch.

Andreas

2011/7/21 Maria Arias de Reyna mar...@emergya.es

 El Jueves 21 Julio 2011, Ben Madin escribió:
  We have a client (potential client) who wants some mapping done and the
  maps returned in shapefile format. In the contract they insist on
  specifying that the shapefiles are compatible with ESRI's ArcView
 version
  9 (their words, not mine).

 If ArcView has no public specification of their Shapefiles, you can always
 tell
 your potential client all the problems derivated from using a privative and
 dark format. In fact, you *should* at least mention it.

 It will save you a lot of troubles in the future. If you explain it right,
 clients usually understand it and _sometimes_ they agree to move to open
 formats.


 Anyway, you should ask your client for a couple of examples of their
 shapefiles
 and compare them with yours. Maybe the difference is small and you can
 post-
 process your generated shapefiles to adjust them.

 --
 María Arias de Reyna Domínguez
 Área de Operaciones

 Emergya Consultoría
 Tfno: +34 954 51 75 77 / +34 607 43 74 27
 Fax: +34 954 51 64 73
 www.emergya.es
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Re: [postgis-users] Shapefiles exported from PostGIS and ESRI ArcView 9 compatibility

2011-07-21 Thread Phil Bartie
Maybe download the free ESRI arc explorer to test it out
http://www.esri.com/software/arcgis/explorer/index.html
On Jul 21, 2011 3:23 PM, Ben Madin li...@remoteinformation.com.au wrote:
 G'dat all,

 We have a client (potential client) who wants some mapping done and the
maps returned in shapefile format. In the contract they insist on specifying
that the shapefiles are compatible with ESRI's ArcView version 9 (their
words, not mine).

 I don't have ESRI's ArcView version 9, and don't intend on spending that
sort of money (more than the contract is worth). However, I'm sure that if
what we send back doesn't open in ESRI's ArcView version 9 it will become
our problem.

 Does anyone have any reason to suspect that a shapefile created using
valid OGC geometry in PostGIS and exported using pgsql2shp would not or
might not work on ESRI's ArcView version 9?

 Are there any issues that someone who is across platforms can help me
with?

 (I routinely use shapefiles created using valid OGC geometry in PostGIS
and exported using pgsql2shp in QGIS and MapServer and send them to other
people, so I have no reason to be concerned except that the client insists
on this line remaining the contract!)

 cheers

 Ben


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Re: [postgis-users] Shapefiles exported from PostGIS and ESRI ArcView 9 compatibility

2011-07-21 Thread MarkW
Do the shptree and related shapefile utilities that come with the osgeo
installs apply here? I've only used them in association with MapServer, so I
don't know if shptree's indexes are usable by ESRI software.

Mark

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 3:23 AM, Ben Madin
li...@remoteinformation.com.auwrote:

 G'dat all,

 We have a client (potential client) who wants some mapping done and the
 maps returned in shapefile format. In the contract they insist on specifying
 that the shapefiles are compatible with ESRI's ArcView version 9 (their
 words, not mine).

 I don't have ESRI's ArcView version 9, and don't intend on spending that
 sort of money (more than the contract is worth). However, I'm sure that if
 what we send back doesn't open in ESRI's ArcView version 9 it will become
 our problem.

 Does anyone have any reason to suspect that a shapefile created using valid
 OGC geometry in PostGIS and exported using pgsql2shp would not or might not
 work on ESRI's ArcView version 9?

 Are there any issues that someone who is across platforms can help me with?

 (I routinely use shapefiles created using valid OGC geometry in PostGIS and
 exported using pgsql2shp in QGIS and MapServer and send them to other
 people, so I have no reason to be concerned except that the client insists
 on this line remaining the contract!)

 cheers

 Ben


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Re: [postgis-users] Shapefiles exported from PostGIS and ESRI ArcView 9 compatibility

2011-07-21 Thread George Rodrigues da Cunha Silva

Em quinta-feira, 21 de julho de 2011 08:15:43, MarkW escreveu:
Do the shptree and related shapefile utilities that come with the osgeo 
installs apply here? I've only used them in association with MapServer, 
so I don't know if shptree's indexes are usable by ESRI software.


Mark

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 3:23 AM, Ben Madin 
li...@remoteinformation.com.au mailto:li...@remoteinformation.com.au 
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G'dat all,

We have a client (potential client) who wants some mapping done and
the maps returned in shapefile format. In the contract they insist
on specifying that the shapefiles are compatible with ESRI's
ArcView version 9 (their words, not mine).

I don't have ESRI's ArcView version 9, and don't intend on
spending that sort of money (more than the contract is worth).
However, I'm sure that if what we send back doesn't open in ESRI's
ArcView version 9 it will become our problem.

Do

es anyone have any reason to suspect that a shapefile created

using valid OGC geometry in PostGIS and exported using pgsql2shp
would not or might not work on ESRI's ArcView version 9?

Are there any issues that someone who is across platforms can help
me with?

(I routinely use shapefiles created using valid OGC geometry in
PostGIS and exported using pgsql2shp in QGIS and MapServer and send
them to other people, so I have no reason to be concerned except
that the client insists on this line remaining the contract!)

cheers

Ben


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There is an open specification of the shapefile format

http://www.esri.com/library/whitepapers/pdfs/shapefile.pdf

Shape is still the 'de facto' format for exchanging GIS data. I can't 
think of anything else right now.


Regarding compatibility, they are compatible AFAIK. Never had an issue.

George

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Re: [postgis-users] Shapefiles exported from PostGIS and ESRI ArcView 9 compatibility

2011-07-21 Thread Paul Ramsey
There's no reason to think the Shape files produced by shp2pgsql won't
work in any and all versions of Arc.

P

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 12:23 AM, Ben Madin
li...@remoteinformation.com.au wrote:
 G'dat all,

 We have a client (potential client) who wants some mapping done and the maps 
 returned in shapefile format. In the contract they insist on specifying that 
 the shapefiles are compatible with ESRI's ArcView version 9 (their words, 
 not mine).

 I don't have ESRI's ArcView version 9, and don't intend on spending that 
 sort of money (more than the contract is worth). However, I'm sure that if 
 what we send back doesn't open in ESRI's ArcView version 9 it will become 
 our problem.

 Does anyone have any reason to suspect that a shapefile created using valid 
 OGC geometry in PostGIS and exported using pgsql2shp would not or might not 
 work on ESRI's ArcView version 9?

 Are there any issues that someone who is across platforms can help me with?

 (I routinely use shapefiles created using valid OGC geometry in PostGIS and 
 exported using pgsql2shp in QGIS and MapServer and send them to other people, 
 so I have no reason to be concerned except that the client insists on this 
 line remaining the contract!)

 cheers

 Ben


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Re: [postgis-users] Shapefiles exported from PostGIS and ESRI ArcView 9 compatibility

2011-07-21 Thread Richard White
We run a production system that produces via OGR, amongst many other
vector formats, shapefiles for every version of ArcView and have never
had a problem with them being used by thousands of customers.

R.

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There's no reason to think the Shape files produced by shp2pgsql won't
work in any and all versions of Arc.

P

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 12:23 AM, Ben Madin
li...@remoteinformation.com.au wrote:
 G'dat all,

 We have a client (potential client) who wants some mapping done and
the maps returned in shapefile format. In the contract they insist on
specifying that the shapefiles are compatible with ESRI's ArcView
version 9 (their words, not mine).

 I don't have ESRI's ArcView version 9, and don't intend on spending
that sort of money (more than the contract is worth). However, I'm sure
that if what we send back doesn't open in ESRI's ArcView version 9 it
will become our problem.

 Does anyone have any reason to suspect that a shapefile created using
valid OGC geometry in PostGIS and exported using pgsql2shp would not or
might not work on ESRI's ArcView version 9?

 Are there any issues that someone who is across platforms can help me
with?

 (I routinely use shapefiles created using valid OGC geometry in
PostGIS and exported using pgsql2shp in QGIS and MapServer and send them
to other people, so I have no reason to be concerned except that the
client insists on this line remaining the contract!)

 cheers

 Ben


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