Re: [postgis-users] implement your own index

2010-05-18 Thread Biddy

Mark,

many thanks for all these very useful pointers.

B.

Zitat von Mark Cave-Ayland :


Biddy wrote:

María, thank you for the fast reply. However, these docs refer to  
the usage of GIST.


If I understand it correctly, an R-tree is implemented on top of GIST.
What if I don't want to use an R-tree? If I wanted to implement my  
own ...let's say I want to implement a quadtree or some other new,  
fancy index. How would I go about doing it?


The GIST API currently does not support space partition-based nor  
ordered indices (see  
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.4/interactive/gist-implementation.html for  
the exact details). So if you wanted to implement a quadtree or  
nearest neighbour type index searches then you'd need to alter the  
GIST API or invent another index AM in PostgreSQL first.


You may find the SP-GIST project interesting in this respect:  
http://www.cs.purdue.edu/spgist/.


Additionally, is there a way to change the attributes with which  
the R-tree is built? Or at least see how the R-tree is built?


It depends what attributes you are trying to modify. If they can be  
defined in terms of the GIST picksplit function then it is likely  
possible.


In terms of visualising the R-Tree itself, Oleg and Teodor's gevel  
module from http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/postgres/gist/ can be used  
as an aid to generate output suitable for rendering.



HTH,

Mark.

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Re: [postgis-users] implement your own index

2010-05-18 Thread Mark Cave-Ayland

Biddy wrote:

María, thank you for the fast reply. However, these docs refer to the 
usage of GIST.


If I understand it correctly, an R-tree is implemented on top of GIST.
What if I don't want to use an R-tree? If I wanted to implement my own 
...let's say I want to implement a quadtree or some other new, fancy 
index. How would I go about doing it?


The GIST API currently does not support space partition-based nor 
ordered indices (see 
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.4/interactive/gist-implementation.html 
for the exact details). So if you wanted to implement a quadtree or 
nearest neighbour type index searches then you'd need to alter the GIST 
API or invent another index AM in PostgreSQL first.


You may find the SP-GIST project interesting in this respect: 
http://www.cs.purdue.edu/spgist/.


Additionally, is there a way to change the attributes with which the 
R-tree is built? Or at least see how the R-tree is built?


It depends what attributes you are trying to modify. If they can be 
defined in terms of the GIST picksplit function then it is likely possible.


In terms of visualising the R-Tree itself, Oleg and Teodor's gevel 
module from http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/postgres/gist/ can be used as 
an aid to generate output suitable for rendering.



HTH,

Mark.

--
Mark Cave-Ayland - Senior Technical Architect
PostgreSQL - PostGIS
Sirius Corporation plc - control through freedom
http://www.siriusit.co.uk
t: +44 870 608 0063

Sirius Labs: http://www.siriusit.co.uk/labs
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Re: [postgis-users] implement your own index

2010-05-18 Thread Biddy
María, thank you for the fast reply. However, these docs refer to the  
usage of GIST.


If I understand it correctly, an R-tree is implemented on top of GIST.
What if I don't want to use an R-tree? If I wanted to implement my own  
...let's say I want to implement a quadtree or some other new, fancy  
index. How would I go about doing it?


Additionally, is there a way to change the attributes with which the  
R-tree is built? Or at least see how the R-tree is built?


Many thanks,
B.

Zitat von Maria Arias de Reyna :


El Tuesday 18 May 2010, Biddy escribió:

write your own spatial index.


Do you mean this: http://postgis.refractions.net/docs/ch04.html#id2794434 ?

Take a look at the docs, probably most of your questions are answered there.

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Fax: +34 954 51 64 73
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Re: [postgis-users] implement your own index

2010-05-18 Thread Maria Arias de Reyna
El Tuesday 18 May 2010, Biddy escribió:
> write your own spatial index.

Do you mean this: http://postgis.refractions.net/docs/ch04.html#id2794434 ?

Take a look at the docs, probably most of your questions are answered there.

-- 
María Arias de Reyna Domínguez
Área de Operaciones

Emergya Consultoría 
Tfno: +34 954 51 75 77 / +34 607 43 74 27
Fax: +34 954 51 64 73 
www.emergya.es 
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[postgis-users] implement your own index

2010-05-18 Thread Biddy

Hello everyone,
I am new to PostGIS and I was wondering if anybody could give me some  
information on (or provide me with a pointer to information on) how to  
write your own spatial index.

All help is greatly appreciated,
many thanks,
B.


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