Re: Powerbook 14cs 166

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on 27/6/02 2:48 pm, STEVE SCAYSBROOK at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

> Hi 
> I'm new to this list, but need advice on the upgrade path for a
> powerbook1400 cs 166, I live in the UK, I need info on the upgrade path to a
> G3, I have seen relacement cards are they any good, also I need an ISDN card
> pcmcia, anyone seen such a beast, also can I upgrade the disk capacity, lots
> of questions but this would keep the machine running for even longer, All
> info should be UK orientated please
> 
> Steve 


Hi Steve

A month ago I upgraded my sons 1400 using a Sonnet 466 card. I bought the
card off eBay for about £100. It was faulty so I had to deal with Sonnet
directly.
We went thru every single problem there is with upgrade. So feel free to ask
us any question - we'll have an answer.

The upgrade is working fine now but does not provide increased battery life
as advertised.

Best wishes,

Simon (Devon)


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Re: Seagate Barracude and 6100

[william ahearn]

J. Ryon Lucke wrote:
>>However, I'm still in the market for a SCSI hard drive to fit into an
>>external case. At the very least, that Barracuda seems to have affected my
>>external case. When I pull the Quantum out of the case and hook it up to
>>the 6100 through the CD connections it works just fine. However, when I
>>hook up the drive in the case the startup hangs up as the hard drive
>>partitions start to appear on the desktop.
> 
> 

What SCSI ID is it set to?


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Re: Seagate Barracude and 6100

[J. Ryon Lucke]

>However, I'm still in the market for a SCSI hard drive to fit into an
>external case. At the very least, that Barracuda seems to have affected my
>external case. When I pull the Quantum out of the case and hook it up to
>the 6100 through the CD connections it works just fine. However, when I
>hook up the drive in the case the startup hangs up as the hard drive
>partitions start to appear on the desktop.

I'm sure everything's properly terminated. Sometimes, though, active
terminators are needed.

Hmm. Could be a faulty data cable--those ribbon cables are pretty fragile,
and it's not hard to damage them in the course of hard drive swaps. It's
happened to me--just not on a Mac. =)

I have an external box which houses a bootable HD and a CD drive. It's quite
handy for troubleshooting CD-less Macs, etc. The only problem it's ever had
was a bad power supply cable--from time to time, the drive would just spin
down. It made for a very stable configuration--sure to crash! Thought it was
the HD, but on examining the situation, I found that I could make it spin
down (or up again) just by messing with the power supply wires. I had to
swap out the wiring harness from another box I had. Not fun!

A word of caution--sometimes the power cords fit extremely tightly. I once
had one pull a pin off the HD logic board with it! A few minutes with a
soldering iron fixed it, but I was fortunate nothing else was damaged.

Check your wires, check your lights, and watch your mouse's tail. Three
flippant rules of computing.

HTH,
Jesse



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Is this a good Deal on a PB G3/233?

[Craig]

a friend has offered me a Powerbook G3/233 for somewhere between $450-$500.
Here's what he's got:

It is a G3 Wall Street,
233 MHz, 13.3 TFT screen, 128 Megs RAM, 2 Gig Hard Drive, 20x internal
cd rom, internal iomega zip drive, floppy drive, 56k internal modem,
ethernet port and 2 really good portable batteries. It also comes with
all the original documentation, a nice sumdex pleather case, s-video
adapter, ethernet cable and external video adapter.

I've read that the 233 are one the worst PB ever fro various reasons:
http://www.insanely-great.com/features/010806.html
What's everyone think?  I recently subscribed to sort watch to see what
everyone had to say about various models and have asked a few ?'s about
1400's.  I first wanted a 1400 but the USB issue kind of killed that.

Thanks,
Craig
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Re: EIDE Drive Format but...

[David R.]

Well I reformatted the drive Mac and left it blank.  Booted 5300 with the
scsi cd/rom disconnected and no cable either.  I assume this would deal with
any termination issues.  Powered up with just the basic 8.1 on floppy.  Get
same happy face, beginning of OS and then the same bus error.

I'm at a loss.  


Dave


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Wherefor Linux?

[Michael Dolberry]

I have a PB170 just sitting around doing nothing and I
was considering putting a version of Linux on it to
play around with. My biggest question though, is

WHY?

What is the benefit of using OpenBSD, or the like?
What can I do, or learn to do, in Linux that would be
worth the time spent? I have never used it (obviously)
and am interested in its attraction.

M. Dolberry

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Re: Converting 2.5" IDE drives to SCSI

[bmgu3]

Was able to do this very thing on a PB500cPPC. Works fine so far. Like the
fact it now has some room.
Subject: Converting 2.5" IDE drives to SCSI


> Seeing as it's looking like I may need a new hard disk - despite
everyone's
> fabulous efforts, thank you all so much - I was wondering if anyone had
any
> experience with converting the IDE interfaces on ATA 2.5" drives to SCSI.
I
> read somewhere that it's a pretty common upgrade in Japan for PB2400
users,
> but a search through Google hasn't revealved any more information like
> how to do it!
>
> Cheers, Ben.
>



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Re: PowerBook 540c upgrades

[William Ahearn]

-- Original Message --
From: Boris Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
>I was thinking on perhaps extending life on a Powerbook 540c I 
have so I'd
>ask you all to share your thoughts on these subjects, please?
>
Don't do it. For all the money that you would put in it, you could be 
most of the way to a much better used powermac book. I had two 
540c. Sold both of them. They're wonderful machines. But they're 
no longer worth upgrading unless you get the upgrade parts dirt 
cheap.

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Re: PowerBook 540c upgrades

[Paul Nelson]

At 9:13 AM -0400 6/29/02, Brian wrote:
>>1) cpu upgrade.
>>My pbook has 100 mhz ppc 603e (Apple brand) with additional 8 mb memory as
>>someone explained. How wise would it be to upgrade that to 167 MHz NewrTech
>>or, possibly to 183 MHz. I notice that, under QuickTime 4, the computer is
>
>I don't know the price, figure $80-100, for the CPU upgrade

One went for over $150 on ebay a week ago.



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Re: EIDE Drive Format but...

[peg]

Same thing happened when I swapped out the original drive for the 6 
GB IBM TravelStar. Turned out to have been a termination problem. Try 
removing the termination to the CD-ROM if it's on or adding a second 
termination if not.

>However, all is not running entirely smooth.  I get a happy face and the
>beginning of the OS start-up, then I get a System Error, Bus Error every
>time.  Same results starting with extensions off and booting from external
>OS cd/rom.

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Re: PowerBook 540c upgrades

[PeterH5322]

In a message dated 6/29/02 6:14:42 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<
I doubt that USB cards would work, but I don't know the cardbus status of a 
5x0, I'm pretty sure "not" though.
>>

Carnbus card won't physically fit in a PB5xx PC card cage.


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Re: PowerBook 540c upgrades

[Brian]

>1) cpu upgrade.
>My pbook has 100 mhz ppc 603e (Apple brand) with additional 8 mb memory as
>someone explained. How wise would it be to upgrade that to 167 MHz NewrTech
>or, possibly to 183 MHz. I notice that, under QuickTime 4, the computer is

I don't know the price, figure $80-100, for the CPU upgrade

>3) hdd upgrade
>I noticed that there are no scsi 2.5" drives larger than 1 gb available and
>those are quite expensive and someone suggested a IDE-SCSI converter. As I
>see it the computer now hosts a 2.5" hdd 17mm high. So, I found this:
>http://www.caldrives.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=Caldri
>ves&Product_Code=CHB25-INT
>which is 6 mm high and that leaves enough space for a 2.5" IDE hdd in super
>slim profile (9.5 mm). Assuming this works, what would the suggested hdd
>drive be and in what size? I was thinking on having several OSes (7.5.5,
>8.1, 8.6 and some flavour of Linux) and at least one data partition. I guess
>that the PowerBook ROM does not support huge hard drive sizes, right?

$150 for the adapter, $70-100 for a 20 gig laptop IDE drive (try and get
one of the fluid-bearing IBM laptop drives, they are very quiet and very
nice).

>4) pcmcia card cage
>I finally found a company that sells the M2995LL/C (a.k.a PC card cage rev
>C) but for an outrageous amount of $250. Check

Ok, $250

>5) PCMCIA cards
>If I decide to go for a PC card cage, what can I plug in? I know it's a
>16bit slot but I also know that at those times (early 90's) all PCMCIA cards
>were 16bit yet still managed to get everything done. A faster modem is an
>probably an option, also the cellular PC card modem. I remember reading on
>
CF reader, $20-35
Mac capable ethernet, $20-$60
PC Card Cell module, $50 to ridiculous, plus a cable to connect it to your
phone, $45-90 or more.
Wireless cards sometimes $50, usually $100ish, plus you need the base
station too

I doubt that USB cards would work, but I don't know the cardbus status of a
5x0, I'm pretty sure "not" though.

Keep in mind you can get a nice Wallstreet (not the slower first models,
but the much faster 2nd and later models) with a 14" nice bright display,
millions of colors, G3/300ish or more, ~256 RAM, 10 or 20gig IDE HD, SCSI
onboard, the normal Mac serial and I/O ports, plus USB and cardbus,
firewire capable, OS9 or X capable, for $500-600 total.

I like my old laptops,  I have a few, I even have a use for the pb100 on
occasion, but there comes a point at which upgrades are not cost-effective
in a BIG way.  Even if you got the laptop for free or just really like the
thing

If you do add bits to soup it up, it will be a neat 540c for sure.  Myself,
I can't make myself spend $80 for 32 megs RAM on my spare 256 color 5300,
that cost me just about nothing (I got it as broken, the REA fixed it).

B

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PowerBook 540c upgrades

[Boris Herman]

Hi listers,

I was thinking on perhaps extending life on a Powerbook 540c I have so I'd
ask you all to share your thoughts on these subjects, please?

1) cpu upgrade.
My pbook has 100 mhz ppc 603e (Apple brand) with additional 8 mb memory as
someone explained. How wise would it be to upgrade that to 167 MHz NewrTech
or, possibly to 183 MHz. I notice that, under QuickTime 4, the computer is
rarely able to play movies with sound. I presume this would change with a
faster CPU (after all, 167 is 67% faster than 100).

2) OS upgrade
I currently have 8.1 installed. What would I gain if I got 8.6 on it. I
notice that many programs require 8.6 or later and I know that things
haven't changed much from 8.6 to 9.2.2. I do have 40 megs of ram installed
and that ought to be enough even for 8.6, right?

3) hdd upgrade
I noticed that there are no scsi 2.5" drives larger than 1 gb available and
those are quite expensive and someone suggested a IDE-SCSI converter. As I
see it the computer now hosts a 2.5" hdd 17mm high. So, I found this:
http://www.caldrives.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=Caldri
ves&Product_Code=CHB25-INT
which is 6 mm high and that leaves enough space for a 2.5" IDE hdd in super
slim profile (9.5 mm). Assuming this works, what would the suggested hdd
drive be and in what size? I was thinking on having several OSes (7.5.5,
8.1, 8.6 and some flavour of Linux) and at least one data partition. I guess
that the PowerBook ROM does not support huge hard drive sizes, right?

4) pcmcia card cage
I finally found a company that sells the M2995LL/C (a.k.a PC card cage rev
C) but for an outrageous amount of $250. Check
http://www.icni.com/Apple%20Parts/pb540c.htm under part number 661-1060.
Apple used to sell this for $219 so $250 is not that much more, I guess...
Oh, and if someone has a PC card rev B and wants Apple to upgrade it to a
rev C (they did this for a while) forget it. Apple discontinued that
service.

5) PCMCIA cards
If I decide to go for a PC card cage, what can I plug in? I know it's a
16bit slot but I also know that at those times (early 90's) all PCMCIA cards
were 16bit yet still managed to get everything done. A faster modem is an
probably an option, also the cellular PC card modem. I remember reading on
the net that someone plugged a 802.11b card into it and connected it to an
AirPort base station (see
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2034915372 ). What else
can be done with it? I can't imagine that it would accept a graphic card or
a USB controller. Maybe a CompactFlash reader, maybe more, I have zero
experience with 16bit pcmcia cards.

Thank you for your thoughts,
Boris


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Re: Powerbook 14cs 166

[chamaras]

on 6/27/02 10:48 AM, STEVE SCAYSBROOK at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
-REPLY
hi well thats great u got a 1400 and dont sweat it were all here to help one
another first off the 1400 is easy to work on here are 2 web sites with some
great deals to start you on your upgrade path

http://www.baucomcomputers.com/
http://www.otherworldcomputing.com/

you can get some great deals and also try ebay depending on drive capacity
you can get one at otherworld (10 gb for $50) thats where i got my 10 gb
also if you dont have a cd drive look to ebay if you have the drive module
for the laptop you can pick up a 24x teac (model cd-224e) and just swap out
the guts thats all there is to it also as far as isdn im not sure i have
wireless on my book its alot better no wires to worry about i have a pcmcia
modem/ethernet card but its collecting dust (lol) also before i forget here
is a link to the service manual for the 1400
ftp://ftp.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Misc/Service/servicemanuals/powe
rbook_1400_series.pdf

hope this helps need anything else just drop us a line


j.
> Hi 
> I'm new to this list, but need advice on the upgrade path for a
> powerbook1400 cs 166, I live in the UK, I need info on the upgrade path to a
> G3, I have seen relacement cards are they any good, also I need an ISDN card
> pcmcia, anyone seen such a beast, also can I upgrade the disk capacity, lots
> of questions but this would keep the machine running for even longer, All
> info should be UK orientated please
> 
> Steve 


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