Re: 520 -- internal IDE converter cable?

2004-03-05 Thread R. A. Cantrell
on 3/4/04 7:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In all cases, the ADTX-converted drive is limited to 8 GB.
What befalls if you put in a 10 gig? Is there a maximizing strategy? What's
he best way to handle a 10 gig drive in a 520c with a 603/167 cpu? As to
OS and volumes?
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Re: 520 -- internal IDE converter cable?

2004-03-05 Thread Howard R. Katz
Anyone know where to order one of these converters?

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Re: 520 -- internal IDE converter cable?

2004-03-05 Thread ACFX44501
 In all cases, the ADTX-converted drive is limited to 8 GB.
What befalls if you put in a 10 gig? Is there a maximizing strategy? What's
he best way to handle a 10 gig drive in a 520c with a 603/167 cpu? As to
OS and volumes?

In fact, I put a 10 GB thin drive on the ADTX converter, and it worked, 
but only 8 GB was available.

It behaved fine, it just reported 8 GB to the host and Drive Setup was 
fine with that.

The limitation doesnt exist in those unobtanium Australian converters, 
but those have gone the way of the Dodo Bird.


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Re: 520 -- internal IDE converter cable?

2004-03-05 Thread ACFX44501
Anyone know where to order one of these converters?

ADTX converters have been discontinued, as have the unobtanium 
Australian ones.

The ADTX converters limited the drive to 8 GB (truncated to 8 GB if is 
was larger); the Australian converter didn't have this limitation.

ADTX still exists, however, now making storage arrays which accept UATA 
drives and convert them to UW-SCSI. These are rebranded to whatever the 
OEM wants. Not sold under the ADTX label.

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PB 1400 screen replacement

2004-03-05 Thread nhj
Hello,
Does anyone know where there are instructions for replacing the screen on a
pb1400? I seem to remember seeing photos of the process somewhere on the
Internet, but I can't locate them by googling.
Thanks,
wayne


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Re: No files on floppy driveless powerbook Duo 230

2004-03-05 Thread Grizzlygiant
Nick Dalzell wrote:

 I am not a newbie to Macs, I have about 4 of em. even have an old
 IIgs...
 
 Etc., But the powerbook
 Duo 230 has a flaw:
 
 NO floppy drive!
 

 Thanks!
 
 Nick

Hello Nick:

I have two possible solutions for you.  The external floppy drive that
has been mentioned is the first.  You can also use a minidock, which has
SCSI target disk mode available (the best way actually) to get files
from a desktop to a PowerBook.

If you still need or want, either of these, please let me know off list,
or you can look at the swap list.

Sincerely yours, Grizzlygiant

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Re: Wallstreet won't boot....why?

2004-03-05 Thread Ken Norris
on 3/5/04 12:32 PM, PowerBooks at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 17:13:18 -0500
 Subject: Wallstreet won't bootwhy?
 From: Jack Countryman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Or is there some other part that usually fails on these that we should try
 first?  
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died. Happens.

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Re: 520 -- internal IDE converter cable?

2004-03-05 Thread Dan K
on 3/4/04 7:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In all cases, the ADTX-converted drive is limited to 8 GB.

which prompted R. A. Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] to ask:
What befalls if you put in a 10 gig? Is there a maximizing strategy? What's
he best way to handle a 10 gig drive in a 520c with a 603/167 cpu? As to
OS and volumes?

to which [EMAIL PROTECTED] replied:
In fact, I put a 10 GB thin drive on the ADTX converter, and it worked, 
but only 8 GB was available.

It behaved fine, it just reported 8 GB to the host and Drive Setup was 
fine with that.

My experience too - the drive is seen as an 8.x GB drive and all info 
beyond the limit (not sure of the exact figure) is unavailable. I tried 
formatting an IBM 10 gigger (not Apple ROMs BTW) on an ATA-bus equipped 
PB, then transfered it to the ADTX adapter plate. At first glance the 
drive appeared to be all 10 GBs but testing revealed an unholy mess of 
read-write errors.

Upon re-initializing the drive (using Drive Setup IIRC) it then showed up 
as an 8.x GB drive with the remaining portion not visible or available 
for use. Worked fine though, and was quite a bit faster than the old 1 GB 
IBM dog with which the adapter originally came.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] also wrote:
The limitation doesnt exist in those unobtanium Australian converters, 
but those have gone the way of the Dodo Bird.

Not sure which Aussy adapter to which you refer, but now's a good a time 
as any to repost my FAQ-of-sorts on the subject of IDE-SCSI adapters 
(though some of the links may be dead now and any prices are likely out 
of date):

I'm aware of five IDE-to-SCSI adapters, ACARD, ADTX, Addonics, Artmix and 
Century. Of those, I have a pair each of the ADTX and Century adapters.

The 2.5 ACARD adapter is no longer being made according to the ACARD 
engineer with whom I spoke at MacWorld/CreativePro NY 2003. I'd never 
heard of an ACARD 2.5 adapter until then, but according to the engineer 
with whom I spoke they did indeed make such an animal at some point.

ADTX may still make their adapter, at least it is still listed on their 
website. This was the unit Apple sold, as a 1GB drive for use in the scsi 
PBs. The same drive/adapter combo was sold by aftermarket vendors (eg: 
MicroTech) for PowerBooks, SparcBooks, etc. Apparently IBM owns (owned?) 
a piece of ADTX.
http://www.adtx.com/us/
http://www.adtx.com/us/conv-SCSI-IDE.html
more info:
http://mickey.lucifier.net/adtx/

The Addonics item linked below is for an adapter for 3.5 HDs, I don't 
know if they make anything for 2.5. I don't know anything else about 
this outfit.
http://www.addonics.com/products/hub_adapter_converter/ide_scsi.asp

Artmix looks almost like some kind of Mac 'club' or co-operative, here's 
a product page link:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?lp=ja_enurl=http%3A%2F%
2Fwww.artmix.com%2Fj_sales.html

more info:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lin
kclub.or.jp%2F%7Ehero%2FOldies%2FPeripherals%2F25SCSI_IDE.htmllp=ja_entt=
url

Century's is currently available, one of mine is in a PPC540C/166 
attached to an IBM 30 gigger:
http://online.century.co.jp/BittradeTest/e_shop/chb25int.html

With the Apple 1GB+ADTX PB SCSI drive, you can replace the drive with any 
12.5mm or thinner IDE drive. However my ADTX adapters can recognize only 
a max of ~8GB, where the Century adapters have a 32GB limit. Also, the 
ADTX adapters I have are somewhat slow, the Century is faster (ADTX = 
~400K/s vs. Century = ~1.1MB/S) in a PB 500. Of course, neither can make 
anywhere near complete use of modern HD speed as a SCSI PowerBook's scsi 
bus is the bottleneck.

The Century adapter is not cheap at ~$90, the Artmix item costs less but 
I don't know if they will ship to the US. An ADTX adapter (most likely 
still attached to its original HD) can be had on eBay for $20 to $100 
depending on the phase of the moon, the current Dow index level . . . 
etc. :-)


hth,

Dan K

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Help: PB 520 Service Manual

2004-03-05 Thread Jim Scott

Anyone have a copy of the PB 520/540 Apple service manual to share? Or a
working link to a download site? Let me know offline, please. Thanks, Jim




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Re: Help: PB 520 Service Manual

2004-03-05 Thread Andrew Kershaw
Scott,

If you haven't gotten an answer yet, you aren't likely to get one by 
asking a second time.

Service Manuals are embargoed by Apple and discussing them on this 
list is strictly verboten.  Asking people to send you a copy off-list 
is just splitting hairs (and asking members to trust you, too).

Go Google for them.  If you can't find them with Google, then 
repairing your 520 is not your only problem.

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Re: Help: PB 520 Service Manual

2004-03-05 Thread Andrew Kershaw
Scott,
My apologies.  I could at least get your name right, eh JIM? ;-)

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Re: I'm growing sick with my old pb 1400

2004-03-05 Thread Ken Norris
Howdy,

 Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 17:15:12 -0500
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 Subject: Re: I'm growing sick with my old pb 1400

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 Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 14:53:03 +0100

 If I hold shipt-option-command-backspace while booting, it will not read the
 cd, let alone boot from it. The question mark comes out instead. It bootes
 from the hd when I release the keys.
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That's wrong. Hold down the C key to boot from CD.

It sounds like you have a progressive extension conflict. Try opening with
extensions off. Boot with the shift key (only) down, then come back and
report what happened.

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Re: 520 -- internal IDE converter cable?

2004-03-05 Thread ACFX44501
The 2.5 ACARD adapter is no longer being made according to the ACARD 
engineer with whom I spoke at MacWorld/CreativePro NY 2003. I'd never 
heard of an ACARD 2.5 adapter until then, but according to the engineer 
with whom I spoke they did indeed make such an animal at some point.

It was in their catalog a few months ago.

It is an adapter from 2.5 EIDE to 3.5 SCSI, and includes the metalwork 
and the card.

You install your 2.5 laptop drive to this thing, and is now is 
form-fit-function a 1 high 3.5 SCSI drive.

IOW, it is NOT a 2.5 EIDE to 2.5 SCSI adapter, as is the ADTX, et. al.


In re: ADTX and some new drives, the ADTX support frame was designed for 
the old format drives. The new format drives will not attach to the ADTX. 
At least not without:

1) removing both sides of the frame,

2) reversing them, and

3) reattaching the whole mess together, using only three screws, not 
four, as the location where one screw would have gone will interfere with 
some components on the ADTX board.


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