Re: Help! OS 8.6

2005-02-07 Thread Howard R. Katz
I've managed to get the 'book, after 6 hours of work, to now boot off of 
the CF startup unit, but I can't get it to work properly from the hard 
drive.  Doing a clean install from 8.1 fails, as does upgrading, or even 
just dragging the system folder from the CF to the HD and going from 
there.  Someone emailed me that I may have to wipe the drive and start 
over--I may have to do that, but I'm waiting on a large external SCSI 
HD--can't back up on something you don't have.  :)

Later.Howard

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new to list

2005-02-07 Thread Erich Zechar
Hello. I am the new owner of a (free) PB 520c. It came without any 
cords, etc, but after fetching an AC adapter I was surprised to find it 
powers up and into OS 7.6.1. Unfortunately it is devoid of an 
Applications folder, so no apps yet.

My ambitions are modest - I don't need a new processor or probably even 
PCMCIA support. If I can get it to word process and communicate with my 
G4 iMac, that's great. If I can connect to, browse, and send email via 
internet it would be a pleasant surprise. I don't want to spend much if 
any money.

Questions:
Should I stick with system 7.6.1?
Is it easy to connect to Broadband? What do I need - a twisted pair 
receiver, but any programs  or protocol, etc? Remember, I'm an OSX 
native.
Where can I get  good Apps, for free or real cheap?

Thanks all!
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Re: new to list

2005-02-07 Thread Fluxstringer
Questions:

Where can I get  good Apps, for free or real cheap?

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Re: new to list

2005-02-07 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Feb 7, 2005, at 2:40 PM, Erich Zechar wrote:
Hello. I am the new owner of a (free) PB 520c. It came without any 
cords, etc, but after fetching an AC adapter I was surprised to find 
it powers up and into OS 7.6.1. Unfortunately it is devoid of an 
Applications folder, so no apps yet.

On a classic Mac apps can reside anywhere. The 'Applications' folder is 
merely a helpful suggestion of where to put the things.

I've seen macs with apps stored is all sorts of unlikely places, 
including one person who always put all their applications in a folder 
in the System folder.


My ambitions are modest - I don't need a new processor or probably 
even PCMCIA support. If I can get it to word process and communicate 
with my G4 iMac, that's great. If I can connect to, browse, and send 
email via internet it would be a pleasant surprise. I don't want to 
spend much if any money.

Questions:
Should I stick with system 7.6.1?
Depends on the memory. If you have a lot, I like 8.1 better than 7.6, 
but 7.6 will work better with less ram.

Is it easy to connect to Broadband? What do I need - a twisted pair 
receiver, but any programs  or protocol, etc?
You'll need an AAUI  10-base-t tranceiver. Other than that that's all 
you'll really need. Since it's got built in ethernet and 7.6 runs Open 
Transport, it has no problems connecting to networks.

Remember, I'm an OSX native.
Well, it's different...
Where can I get  good Apps, for free or real cheap?
Well, whatever you're looking for, there's a variety of choice.
People like iCab as a web browser, or netscape 4.7 will work, albeit 
sluggishly.

If you have an imap email account I recommend Mail Drop as a mail 
client http://carl-bell-2.baylor.edu/~Carl_Bell/Mail_Drop/ fast, 
light on resources and works like a charm. It doesn't do POP however.

Good ol' Cyberdog runs on that one too. and it's a decent POP mailer, 
though the web browser is quite out of date by now. Old version of 
Eudora work as well, if you can find them.

The old WordPerfect for Mac works on this one, it's floating about on 
the web somewhere. I have a copy floating about somewhere, tell me if 
you can't find it.

So do old versions of AppleWorks.
Connecting with your G4 is easy Powerbook to G4; simply install 
Appleshare client 3.8 http://tinyurl.com/6vcp3 (Apple's web site) and 
enter the ip address of the G4 in the chooser.

To mount folders on the powerbook form the G4 you'll need to install 
ShareWay IP. This is costly, and since you can mount the G4 from the PB 
not really needed.

Depending on how unixy you are with OS X, you'll want a SSH client for 
the 530; I use Nifty Telnet SSH 
http://www.lysator.liu.se/~jonasw/freeware/niftyssh/

I routinely run MacDraw and MacWrite on my 540, Graphics Converter, 
bunch of stuff.

The key, though, is memory, and unfortunately it costs: a 32 Meg 
upgrade is $79 at Data Memory Systems. But that gets you 36 megs total, 
which is enough to do quite a bit.

Drives, too are pricey because they're SCSI. You can find adapters to 
use IDE drives but they cost more than the thing is worth.

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Re: new to list

2005-02-07 Thread Ted Lovejoy
A very good resource for Mac software, free and other wise,  is
http://www.pure-mac.com/

Ted


On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:16:04 -0700, Bruce Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Feb 7, 2005, at 2:40 PM, Erich Zechar wrote:
 
  Hello. I am the new owner of a (free) PB 520c. It came without any
  cords, etc, but after fetching an AC adapter I was surprised to find
  it powers up and into OS 7.6.1. Unfortunately it is devoid of an
  Applications folder, so no apps yet.
 
 
 On a classic Mac apps can reside anywhere. The 'Applications' folder is
 merely a helpful suggestion of where to put the things.
 
 I've seen macs with apps stored is all sorts of unlikely places,
 including one person who always put all their applications in a folder
 in the System folder.
 
 
  My ambitions are modest - I don't need a new processor or probably
  even PCMCIA support. If I can get it to word process and communicate
  with my G4 iMac, that's great. If I can connect to, browse, and send
  email via internet it would be a pleasant surprise. I don't want to
  spend much if any money.
 
  Questions:
  Should I stick with system 7.6.1?
 
 Depends on the memory. If you have a lot, I like 8.1 better than 7.6,
 but 7.6 will work better with less ram.
 
  Is it easy to connect to Broadband? What do I need - a twisted pair
  receiver, but any programs  or protocol, etc?
 
 You'll need an AAUI  10-base-t tranceiver. Other than that that's all
 you'll really need. Since it's got built in ethernet and 7.6 runs Open
 Transport, it has no problems connecting to networks.
 
  Remember, I'm an OSX native.
 
 Well, it's different...
 
  Where can I get  good Apps, for free or real cheap?
 
 Well, whatever you're looking for, there's a variety of choice.
 
 People like iCab as a web browser, or netscape 4.7 will work, albeit
 sluggishly.
 
 If you have an imap email account I recommend Mail Drop as a mail
 client http://carl-bell-2.baylor.edu/~Carl_Bell/Mail_Drop/ fast,
 light on resources and works like a charm. It doesn't do POP however.
 
 Good ol' Cyberdog runs on that one too. and it's a decent POP mailer,
 though the web browser is quite out of date by now. Old version of
 Eudora work as well, if you can find them.
 
 The old WordPerfect for Mac works on this one, it's floating about on
 the web somewhere. I have a copy floating about somewhere, tell me if
 you can't find it.
 
 So do old versions of AppleWorks.
 
 Connecting with your G4 is easy Powerbook to G4; simply install
 Appleshare client 3.8 http://tinyurl.com/6vcp3 (Apple's web site) and
 enter the ip address of the G4 in the chooser.
 
 To mount folders on the powerbook form the G4 you'll need to install
 ShareWay IP. This is costly, and since you can mount the G4 from the PB
 not really needed.
 
 Depending on how unixy you are with OS X, you'll want a SSH client for
 the 530; I use Nifty Telnet SSH
 http://www.lysator.liu.se/~jonasw/freeware/niftyssh/
 
 I routinely run MacDraw and MacWrite on my 540, Graphics Converter,
 bunch of stuff.
 
 The key, though, is memory, and unfortunately it costs: a 32 Meg
 upgrade is $79 at Data Memory Systems. But that gets you 36 megs total,
 which is enough to do quite a bit.
 
 Drives, too are pricey because they're SCSI. You can find adapters to
 use IDE drives but they cost more than the thing is worth.
 
 --
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 University of Arizona
 College of Pha acy
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Re: new to list

2005-02-07 Thread Erich Zechar
On Monday, February 7, 2005, at 05:16  PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

On a classic Mac apps can reside anywhere. The 'Applications' folder 
is merely a helpful suggestion of where to put the things.

I've seen macs with apps stored is all sorts of unlikely places, 
including one person who always put all their applications in a folder 
in the System folder.
SNIP
I'll look again, but I'm 99% sure the last user simply deleted the 
applications, because all the shortcuts don't work and a search yields 
nothing. Hope I don't need to reinstall the OS for some deleted 
utilities, because the 'book came with no system disks...

Depending on how unixy you are with OS X, you'll want a SSH client for 
the 530; I use Nifty Telnet SSH 
http://www.lysator.liu.se/~jonasw/freeware/niftyssh/

I routinely run MacDraw and MacWrite on my 540, Graphics Converter, 
bunch of stuff.

The key, though, is memory, and unfortunately it costs: a 32 Meg 
upgrade is $79 at Data Memory Systems. But that gets you 36 megs 
total, which is enough to do quite a bit.

Drives, too are pricey because they're SCSI. You can find adapters to 
use IDE drives but they cost more than the thing is worth.
SNIP
I'm not unixy at all frankly. I'm an everyday user who's probably 
getting in over his head with this 'book. I'm a swimmer though, so I'll 
survive.

I have 20MB of RAM installed, and a 326 MB HD.
Like I said before, I'm not spending money on this if I can afford it. 
I'd probably be better off with a 1400 if I want to start spending...

Erich Z
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Re: new to list

2005-02-07 Thread Fluxstringer
A very good resource for Mac software, free and other wise,  is
http://www.pure-mac.com/
_
Rooting around in the basement archive of versiontracker.com should 
turn up some good stuff too.
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Re: new to list

2005-02-07 Thread Fluxstringer

I'm not unixy at all frankly. I'm an everyday user who's probably 
getting in over his head with this 'book. I'm a swimmer though, so 
I'll survive.
Piece of cake, piece of Pie.   it's nuthin'  Just stuff in different 
places with somewhat different ways of doing things . But you will 
still find the Mac OS 'feel'

I have 20MB of RAM installed, and a 326 MB HD.

A lot of great work has been done with  a lot less.

Like I said before, I'm not spending money on this if I can afford 
it. I'd probably be better off with a 1400 if I want to start 
spending...

True that.
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Re: new to list

2005-02-07 Thread Erich Zechar
Oh yes, and my battery is dead, surprise. Can I get a working battery 
still, and what is my best option for finding said working 500 series 
battery?

Erich Z
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Re: new to list

2005-02-07 Thread Howard R. Katz
I would strongly recommend you find a copy of RamDoubler for that machine, 
regardless of how much memory you end up putting in it--and if you can 
find one (and they do show up on ebay occasionally--2.5 SCSI notebook 
drives), a larger HD for the machine.  Having used a 520c for several 
years before graduating to the 5300 I'm currently using, I can tell you 
that it's a nice little powerbook, even if it is a bit slow for things 
like web browsing.  (a zen-like patience will make things easier to deal 
with there.  :) )

For telnet, I like BetterTelnet which can be found at 
http://www.cstone.net/~rbraun/mac/telnet

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Re: new to list

2005-02-07 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Feb 7, 2005, at 3:49 PM, Erich Zechar wrote:
Oh yes, and my battery is dead, surprise. Can I get a working battery 
still, and what is my best option for finding said working 500 series 
battery?

Your best option is to rebuild the battery pack, since any 500 series 
battery you can find has probably been sitting on the shelf a decade or 
more.

http://oscar.pharmacy.arizona.edu/540stuff/520__540.htm
This is a copy of someone else's pages on the net on rebuilding the 
battery packs.

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Re: new to list

2005-02-07 Thread Fabian Fang
On Feb 7, 2005, at 2:16 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
On Feb 7, 2005, at 2:40 PM, Erich Zechar wrote:
Where can I get  good Apps, for free or real cheap?
The old WordPerfect for Mac works on this one, it's floating about on 
the web somewhere. I have a copy floating about somewhere, tell me if 
you can't find it.
Corel WordPerfect 3.5e, with patch for OS 8/9,  can be downloaded here:
http://acmfiles.csusb.edu/corel/wpmac.html
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