Re: 540c and internet

2003-10-27 Thread The Calypso Organization


 My experience with 9.1 on my 167mhz PBs 500 has been quite positive.
 However I think the key to using 9.1 on such older 'Books is to have
 maxed RAM _and_ a newer, faster HD. For example, one of my 167s currently
 has an original 800mb scsi HD and 40MBs RAM and it's a bit pokey for many
 things. However the other has the same spec except it's got a 30 gigger
 and it feels much snappier, much more responsive. You needn't use so
 large a drive of course, most any modern drive of 6 or 8GBs or so will be
 plenty fast enough for such older 'Books.

Where/ howdid you get a 30gb SCSI HD to fit in it? or even a 6 or 8gb SCSI?
Would love to try one out but havnt seen any for sale in the UK at a price
that would make it worthwhile.?
Ours hax maxed out RAM and an 800mb SCSI - so your comments are very
applicable.

Gerald


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Re: 540c and internet

2003-10-27 Thread vicki
 
 
 My experience with 9.1 on my 167mhz PBs 500 has been quite positive.
 However I think the key to using 9.1 on such older 'Books is to have
 maxed RAM _and_ a newer, faster HD. For example, one of my 167s currently
 has an original 800mb scsi HD and 40MBs RAM and it's a bit pokey for many
 things. However the other has the same spec except it's got a 30 gigger
 and it feels much snappier, much more responsive. You needn't use so
 large a drive of course, most any modern drive of 6 or 8GBs or so will be
 plenty fast enough for such older 'Books.
 
 Where/ howdid you get a 30gb SCSI HD to fit in it? or even a 6 or 8gb SCSI?
 Would love to try one out but havnt seen any for sale in the UK at a price
 that would make it worthwhile.?
 Ours hax maxed out RAM and an 800mb SCSI - so your comments are very
 applicable.
 
 Gerald
 
Hi I think that he means that he has a 30gb ide with a ide to scsi adapter
card fitted as (some one correct me if I am wrong) but I do not think they
ever have or ever will make 30gb scsi laptop hdds .IT is  way to expensive
to do.

Vicki


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Re: 540c and internet

2003-10-27 Thread Paul Nelson
At 6:29 PM + 10/27/03, The Calypso Organization wrote:
Where/ howdid you get a 30gb SCSI HD to fit in it? or even a 6 or 8gb SCSI?
Would love to try one out but havnt seen any for sale in the UK at a price
that would make it worthwhile.?
Ours hax maxed out RAM and an 800mb SCSI - so your comments are very
applicable.

It's an skinny IDE drive with an SCSI adapter on top of it.
Paul



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540c and internet

2003-10-26 Thread nathan


  ---Okay here's the deal. I recieved my 540c the other day and after
unpakcing it from the box, tried to get it up and running on the internet.
Well PPP establishes a connection. But either in Netscape 3.01 or IE
3.01 I get Page could not be found because it does not have a DNS. Anybody
get this before? Know what it might be?


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Re: 540c and internet

2003-10-26 Thread Illovox Media
on 10/26/03 12:20 AM, nathan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 ---Okay here's the deal. I recieved my 540c the other day and after
 unpakcing it from the box, tried to get it up and running on the internet.
 Well PPP establishes a connection. But either in Netscape 3.01 or IE
 3.01 I get Page could not be found because it does not have a DNS. Anybody
 get this before? Know what it might be?

You need to configure tcp/ip with your connection addresses


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Re: 540c and internet

2003-10-26 Thread nathan


--did that already, still gives the same error code under os 8.1



on 10/26/03 10:02 AM, Illovox Media at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 10/26/03 12:20 AM, nathan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 ---Okay here's the deal. I recieved my 540c the other day and after
 unpakcing it from the box, tried to get it up and running on the internet.
 Well PPP establishes a connection. But either in Netscape 3.01 or IE
 3.01 I get Page could not be found because it does not have a DNS. Anybody
 get this before? Know what it might be?
 
 You need to configure tcp/ip with your connection addresses
 


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Re: 540c and internet

2003-10-26 Thread Howard R. Katz
I get those messages on my 520c when I'm not talking to the server, either
thru a DSL router or dialup.  A little more info would help:  Are you
dialing in, are you using an AAUI connecter on an ethernet?  Wireless?
Are your AppleTalk and TCP/IP control panels set correctly for the way
you're accessing the web?  What OS are you using?  Is Open Transport
installed, and what version?  (half the time I get a message like that
I've forgotten to change my control panels to my connection
setup--changing them gets me back online.)

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Re: 540c and internet

2003-10-26 Thread Ric


Check the browser prefs to make sure they're not setup to use
a proxy server.

Ric




  ---Okay here's the deal. I recieved my 540c the other day and after
unpakcing it from the box, tried to get it up and running on the internet.
Well PPP establishes a connection. But either in Netscape 3.01 or IE
3.01 I get Page could not be found because it does not have a DNS. Anybody
get this before? Know what it might be?
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Re: 540c and internet

2003-10-26 Thread Illovox Media
on 10/26/03 9:38 AM, nathan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 --- Unfortunatly I do not have to option of a router to grab a DNS address
 and my ISP doesn't offer any static for dial up customers. I don't have the
 option of DSL or Cable here, so will I be able to surf with me latptop? Or
 should I just stick with the desktop and d/l pages for offline browsing to
 the laptop? Would it help if I updated the os? I have a 167mhz PPC upgrade
 card coming for the 540c, so I should be able install atleast 9.0 onto
 it

The highest you will go is 8.1.  Unless you hack it in.  Hacking 8.6 would
be the highest I would go.  Then you can use Internet set up assistant and
the remote access on that OS was finally a good and stable build...


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Re: 540c and internet

2003-10-26 Thread The Calypso Organization

? Would it help if I updated the os? I have a 167mhz PPC upgrade
 card coming for the 540c, so I should be able install atleast 9.0 onto
 it

Nathan,

Weve just been on the route youre taking. Dont use 9.0 as its very slow. 8.6
is MUCH much better but you will need some non-mac software to get it to
accept anything over 8.1. This has been covered in previous discusssions
recently.
Gerald


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Re: 540c and internet

2003-10-26 Thread Nils
No.  The previous poster was referring to your ISP's
name servers (DNS) addresses being static.  Not the ip
address being assigned to your machine as being static.
What he is suggesting is for you to contact your ISP, 
ask then what the IP addresses of their DNS servers are
and manually enter them in your TCP/IP setup.

The problems you are describing don't sound browser related.
Just that your machine can not lookup DNS entries.  
One tool to help rule out your browser is to get
MacPing ( http://www.macping.com/ ) and use it to ping
a domain name that you know.  Like worldcom.com which currently
resolves to 164.109.35.20.  If you get MacPing, try to
ping worldcom.com and if you continue to get the DNS error
messages, you've ruled out your browsers as the problem.

So, contact your isp, get their DNS addresses, manually enter
them and your problem should (hoepfully) go away :)

-nils

On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 07:38:35PM +0200 or thereabouts, nathan wrote:
 
 --- Unfortunatly I do not have to option of a router to grab a DNS address
 and my ISP doesn't offer any static for dial up customers. I don't have the
 option of DSL or Cable here, so will I be able to surf with me latptop? Or
 should I just stick with the desktop and d/l pages for offline browsing to
 the laptop? Would it help if I updated the os? I have a 167mhz PPC upgrade
 card coming for the 540c, so I should be able install atleast 9.0 onto
 it
 
 on 10/26/03 7:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I get Page could not be found because it does not have a DNS. Anybody
  get this before? Know what it might be?
  
  You did not completely make connection with your ISP.
  
  On 540c's and 5300ce's I always have to manually put in the two DSN
  numbers from my ISP, whenever I go on the road.
  
  The secret, if you could call it that, is to use the ISP's software to
  correctly setup the TCP/IP and Remote Access control panels, and then
  copy the numbers down for later.
  
  Then, when moving to a new location, simply create a new location in
  Remote Access, and plug the two DNS numbers in TCP/IP.
  
  Fortunately, the ISP's DNS numbers are static.
  
  When I'm home, I let my router get the DNS numbers.

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Re: 540c and internet

2003-10-26 Thread nathan
on 10/26/03 4:38 PM, Bruce Johnson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What OS version are you running? Are you using OpenTransport or some
 other PPP tool?



 (From Apple System Profiler)

Network/Communications Overview

Network Software: Open Transport (v1.3) present and loaded
AppleTalk present and loaded
TCP/IP present and loaded


I'm running OS 8.1, connnecting through PPP to my dailup ISP here in
Turkey.. DNS addressing is floating according to the ISP helpdesk.
Checked settings in TCP/IP and PPP to make sure they matched. Prefrences
tab in both IE 3.01 and NET3.01 also match... Sorry was so vague before...
getting the same message? Would it be to off base to say the browser could
be causing the problem? I made sure JAVA and cookies were active and
allowed.. though I don't think that would be an issue?


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Re: 540c and internet

2003-10-26 Thread ACFX44501
I get Page could not be found because it does not have a DNS. Anybody
get this before? Know what it might be?

You did not completely make connection with your ISP.

On 540c's and 5300ce's I always have to manually put in the two DSN 
numbers from my ISP, whenever I go on the road.

The secret, if you could call it that, is to use the ISP's software to 
correctly setup the TCP/IP and Remote Access control panels, and then 
copy the numbers down for later.

Then, when moving to a new location, simply create a new location in 
Remote Access, and plug the two DNS numbers in TCP/IP.

Fortunately, the ISP's DNS numbers are static.

When I'm home, I let my router get the DNS numbers.


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Re: 540c and internet

2003-10-26 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sunday, October 26, 2003, at 12:20  AM, nathan wrote:



  ---Okay here's the deal. I recieved my 540c the other day and after
unpakcing it from the box, tried to get it up and running on the 
internet.
Well PPP establishes a connection. But either in Netscape 3.01 or 
IE
3.01 I get Page could not be found because it does not have a DNS. 
Anybody
get this before? Know what it might be?
What OS version are you running? Are you using OpenTransport or some 
other PPP tool?

You may have to tell it what your DNS server address is, which should 
be available from your ISP.


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Re: 540c and internet

2003-10-26 Thread Dan K
Nathan asked:
? Would it help if I updated the os? I have a 167mhz PPC upgrade
 card coming for the 540c, so I should be able install atleast 9.0 onto
 it
to which Gerald replied:
Weve just been on the route youre taking. Dont use 9.0 as its very slow. 8.6
is MUCH much better but you will need some non-mac software to get it to
accept anything over 8.1.
My experience with 9.1 on my 167mhz PBs 500 has been quite positive. 
However I think the key to using 9.1 on such older 'Books is to have 
maxed RAM _and_ a newer, faster HD. For example, one of my 167s currently 
has an original 800mb scsi HD and 40MBs RAM and it's a bit pokey for many 
things. However the other has the same spec except it's got a 30 gigger 
and it feels much snappier, much more responsive. You needn't use so 
large a drive of course, most any modern drive of 6 or 8GBs or so will be 
plenty fast enough for such older 'Books.

Is it as responsive as sys7? Well no, but all the other things it can do 
easily make up for that. Just remember that 9.1 has the most native PPC 
code of any MacOS you can use, more than any OS7 or OS8 for sure.

Same goes for my experience with 9.1 on all the other nubus PPC PBs, lots 
of RAM and bigger, _faster_ HD = a very usable PB. I know the sys7 vs. 
sys8 vs. sys9 on-older-PBs thing is a contentious subject here, so I just 
want to reiterate that this is _my_ experience, YMMV.

see my page here BTW:
http://members.aol.com/dankephoto/ppc_upgrade/

Dan K (sorry, I couldn't help poking my nose into this thread :-)


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Re: 540c and internet

2003-10-26 Thread nathan

--- Unfortunatly I do not have to option of a router to grab a DNS address
and my ISP doesn't offer any static for dial up customers. I don't have the
option of DSL or Cable here, so will I be able to surf with me latptop? Or
should I just stick with the desktop and d/l pages for offline browsing to
the laptop? Would it help if I updated the os? I have a 167mhz PPC upgrade
card coming for the 540c, so I should be able install atleast 9.0 onto
it


on 10/26/03 7:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I get Page could not be found because it does not have a DNS. Anybody
 get this before? Know what it might be?
 
 You did not completely make connection with your ISP.
 
 On 540c's and 5300ce's I always have to manually put in the two DSN
 numbers from my ISP, whenever I go on the road.
 
 The secret, if you could call it that, is to use the ISP's software to
 correctly setup the TCP/IP and Remote Access control panels, and then
 copy the numbers down for later.
 
 Then, when moving to a new location, simply create a new location in
 Remote Access, and plug the two DNS numbers in TCP/IP.
 
 Fortunately, the ISP's DNS numbers are static.
 
 When I'm home, I let my router get the DNS numbers.
 


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