Re: TCP/IP Setup tip (was Re: MacPoET)

[RasAzul]

In a message dated 1/9/05 3:08:36 PM, powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com writes:
Subject: TCP/IP Setup tip (was Re: MacPoET)

<< FWIW,

YMMV,

etc,

- Dan.

 >> Hey Dan thank you for the heads up on configuring my TCP/IP setup. I'll 
try what you said and see what happens.
Brad


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TCP/IP Setup tip (was Re: MacPoET)

[darm0k]

At 06:13 AM -0500 12/29/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Configure:Manually
IP Address:   an ip within the range configured on the router
 example: router has 192.168.1.1 , then use here
 192.168.1.2
Subnet mask:  255.255.255.0
Router address:   ip of router. here it would be: 192.168.1.1
Name server addr: ip of router if router can do this. if not
 an ip of a nameserver. See documentation
 from your provider
Search domains:   leave empty
While my preference is to use DHCP, the above is fine for a manual 
config, IMO, except for the last.

The ending domain, search domain, etc, by whatever that field is 
called (it varies depending on which IP stack you use and which OS) 
can be VERY useful.  It can be left blank, but filling it in is 
BETTER.

Most ISPs include the domain name information in their DHCP response, 
and your router should simply pass it on to your client computers. 
But some cheap routers contain only partial DHCP implementations... 
so they don't.  If that's the case, put it in yourself.

Here's an example of what it will do for you:
Eudora, my email client, is configured in each of its profiles to 
send email out via an smtp server called just "smtp".

My "At Home" TCP/IP configuration is set to use "comcast.net". 
Eudora reaches for the server called "smtp" and the IP stack notices 
that it's an incomplete domain name, so it automatically adds 
".comcast.net".  This makes Eudora magically talk to 
"smtp.comcast.net".

My "On The Road" TCP/IP configuration is set to use "earthlink.net". 
Again, Eudora reaches for just "smtp" and the IP stack automatically 
fixes it to be "smtp.earthlink.net".

Automagically switching servers without changing the settings in the 
client app (in this case, Eudora)!...

FWIW,
YMMV,
etc,
- Dan.
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Re: using MacPoET on a Pwrbk3400

[David]

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Hello fellow list members I am writing hoping to find someone who is 
presently using MacPoET on a pwrbk. 
 

I second what everyone else said. Get the PPPoE done by the router. If 
you have a dumb modem, buy a raouter for $10-20 post-rebate.

PPPoE is too ugly to inflict upon a good machine
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Re: MacPoET

[RasAzul]

In a message dated 12/28/04 3:07:53 PM, powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com writes:

<< all you need is control panel TCP.  If you use DHCP on the router set up 
the TCP like here


http://www.starstream.net/support/mac/tcpip/tcpipos8.htm

This is the easiest way. If you don't have DHCP on the router

then chose:


Configure:Manually

IP Address:   an ip within the range configured on the router

  example: router has 192.168.1.1 , then use here

  192.168.1.2

Subnet mask:  255.255.255.0

Router address:   ip of router. here it would be: 192.168.1.1

Name server addr: ip of router if router can do this. if not

  an ip of a nameserver. See documentation

  from your provider

Search domains:   leave empty
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Once again thank you for the hints and tips. I have a little work to do over 
the coming weekend. Happy New Year everyone.
Brad

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Re: MacPoET

[Manfred]

> To Clark Martin, Manfred Guentner, and ACFX4501 I would like to say thank you 
> for such quick and informative responses, I will use the router to connect 
> the powerbook. I guess I just have to play with the control panels to get 
> them 
> set correctly. Or are there any special control panels necessary to complete 
> this setup.
> 
> Thank for your assistance. Brad >>

Hi,

all you need is control panel TCP.

If you use DHCP on the router set up the TCP like here

http://www.starstream.net/support/mac/tcpip/tcpipos8.htm


Thsi is the easiest way. If you dont have DHCP on the router
then chose:

Configure:Manually
IP Address:   a ip within the range configured on the router
  example: router has 192.168.1.1 , then use here
  192.168.1.2
Subnet mask:  255.255.255.0
Router address:   ip of router. here it would be: 192.168.1.1
Name server addr: ip of router if router can do this. if not
  an ip of a nameserver. See documentation
  from your provider
Search domains:   leave empty



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Re: MacPoET

[RasAzul]

In a message dated 12/27/04 5:51:48 PM, RasAzul writes:
<< My response to all who responded follows the original question and the 
replies sent by those who responded.

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: using MacPoET on a Pwrbk3400

Hello fellow list members I am writing hoping to find someone who is 

presently using MacPoET on a pwrbk. through a Linksys router via PPPoE. I 
found a version 1.1 on the Internet and downloaded it then decided to check 
here 
before I attempted 

to set it up.

Brad 


If you are connected through the router then it should be dealing 

with PPPoE and your computer only needs to access the router using an 

ordinary TCP/IP connection.  >-- 

Clark Martin

Redwood City, CA, USA>Macintosh / Internet Consulting

Hi,

I agree with this. As long as your Router has PPPoE function

you should use them. If your router doesn't support PPPoE

you should think about buying one.

Anyway, if you, due to circumstances, want or need to use MacPoET 1.1.1

I can confirm that it is working fine. The configuration is a little

unusual, because AppleTalk is used somehow as sort of "loopback"

interface. A small guide (German only) is here 

http://www.netic.de/support/dsl/macos/

But its little to read. The most is clear through the pictures.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: using MacPoET on a Pwrbk3400

If you are connected through the router then it should be dealing 

with PPPoE and your computer only needs to access the router using an 

ordinary TCP/IP connection.  >

Correct.

Let the router be the DHCP server, and set your TCP/IP control panel for 

that mode. The router will act as the server for LaserWriters, hard-wired 
Macs, 

wireless macs (if the router has that capability), etcetera.

 Its a lot more reliable to use the bare-bones TCP/IP control panel and a 

decent Router, than to use MacPoet and no router at all.

Having the router be the DHCP server provides this flexibility.


To Clark Martin, Manfred Guentner, and ACFX4501 I would like to say thank you 
for such quick and informative responses, I will use the router to connect 
the powerbook. I guess I just have to play with the control panels to get them 
set correctly. Or are there any special control panels necessary to complete 
this setup.

Thank for your assistance. Brad >>


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Re: using MacPoET on a Pwrbk3400

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>If you are connected through the router then it should be dealing 
>with PPPoE and your computer only needs to access the router using an 
>ordinary TCP/IP connection.  In other words you do not need to run 
>MacPoet or any other PPPoE software on you r laptop or any other 
>computer behind the router.

Correct.

Let the router be the DHCP server, and set your TCP/IP control panel for 
that mode.

The router will act as the server for LaserWriters, hard-wired Macs, 
wireless macs (if the router has that capability), etcetera.

Its a lot more reliable to use the bare-bones TCP/IP control panel and a 
decent Router, than to use MacPoet and no router at all.

The latest DSL modems from SpeedStream, and others, include a router 
function, anyway.

I have switches in several locations, and UTP everywhere, so I can simply 
plug in any desktop or laptop Mac, and get to the net instantly.

Having the router be the DHCP server provices this flexibility.

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Re: using MacPoET on a Pwrbk3400

[Manfred]

> >Hello fellow list members I am writing hoping to find someone who is
> >presently using MacPoET on a pwrbk. My Pwrbk 3400 is running with 
> >144mb of ram on OS
> >9.1 with a 2gig harddrive. The reason I am looking at MacPoet is because I 
> >am
> >trying run my Pwrbk through a Linksys router via PPPoE. I found a version 
> >1.1
> >on the Internet and downloaded it then decided to check here before 
> >I attempted
> >to set it up. I am looking for any information on how it works, what 
> >version
> >is viable and how to configure and troubleshoot it. Thank you for any and 
> >all
> >help in this matter.
> 
> If you are connected through the router then it should be dealing 
> with PPPoE and your computer only needs to access the router using an 
> ordinary TCP/IP connection.  In other words you do not need to run 
> MacPoet or any other PPPoE software on you r laptop or any other 
> computer behind the router.

Hi,

i agree with this. As long as your Router has PPPoE funktion
you should use them. If your router doesnt support PPPoE
you should think about buying one.

Anyway, if you, due to circumstances, want or need to use MacPoET 1.1.1
i can confirm that it ist working fine. The configuration is a little
unusual, because the AppleTalk is used somehow as sort of "loopback"
interface. A small guide (german only) is here 

http://www.netic.de/support/dsl/macos/

But its little to read. The most is clear through the pictures.

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Re: using MacPoET on a Pwrbk3400

[Clark Martin]

At 5:20 PM -0500 12/26/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello fellow list members I am writing hoping to find someone who is
presently using MacPoET on a pwrbk. My Pwrbk 3400 is running with 
144mb of ram on OS
9.1 with a 2gig harddrive. The reason I am looking at MacPoet is because I am
trying run my Pwrbk through a Linksys router via PPPoE. I found a version 1.1
on the Internet and downloaded it then decided to check here before 
I attempted
to set it up. I am looking for any information on how it works, what version
is viable and how to configure and troubleshoot it. Thank you for any and all
help in this matter.
If you are connected through the router then it should be dealing 
with PPPoE and your computer only needs to access the router using an 
ordinary TCP/IP connection.  In other words you do not need to run 
MacPoet or any other PPPoE software on you r laptop or any other 
computer behind the router.
--
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Redwood City, CA, USA
Macintosh / Internet Consulting

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using MacPoET on a Pwrbk3400

[RasAzul]

Hello fellow list members I am writing hoping to find someone who is 
presently using MacPoET on a pwrbk. My Pwrbk 3400 is running with 144mb of ram 
on OS 
9.1 with a 2gig harddrive. The reason I am looking at MacPoet is because I am 
trying run my Pwrbk through a Linksys router via PPPoE. I found a version 1.1 
on the Internet and downloaded it then decided to check here before I attempted 
to set it up. I am looking for any information on how it works, what version 
is viable and how to configure and troubleshoot it. Thank you for any and all 
help in this matter.
Brad 

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