Re: PB 3400C Logic Board
Hi, Thanks for all the replies, a few more questions: 1. How can I tell if the problem is in the logic board or the power supply board? 2. Are both easily replacable? 3. How do I reset Power Manager? I was told to hold the reset button in the back for a few minutes... is that it? I've done it many times and nothing changes. 4. What do you suggest I do? The PB works good, except for the date thing, the non-charging main battery and a few unexpected freezes or shutting off (these rarely happen) I'd like to get it working again, especially the main battery. It's annoying having a PB that HAS to be plugged in all the time. I've opened it and changed the PRAM batteries, there's no leak. Thanks again. Gabriel Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 15:00:25 -0500 From: gponz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PB 3400C Logic Board Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, A while ago I asked you guys for help because my PB 3400c was behaving very wierd. After all the tests you suggested , it seems the problem lies with the logic board. 1. The clock will not stay correct. I've changed the PRAM battery twice and let it charge... still nothing. 2. The main battery will not charge. It worked ok and suddenly one day it would not charge no matter what I do. If I disconnect the power supply the PB shuts off instantly, which means the battery doesn't even have a second of life. 3. It does strange things once in a while, like freezing for no reason or shutting off suddenly. My questions are: 1. Where can I get a logic board? 2. How much will it cost approximately? 3. Where can I find instructions on how to install it? 4. Can I upgrade to a G3? Thanks for the help. Gabriel -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: PB 3400C Logic Board
on 06/02/03 4:35 PM, gponz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Thanks for all the replies, a few more questions: 1. How can I tell if the problem is in the logic board or the power supply board? 2. Are both easily replacable? 3. How do I reset Power Manager? I was told to hold the reset button in the back for a few minutes... is that it? I've done it many times and nothing changes. You've done this with NO power source available -- no AC adapter, no battery (possibly even no PRAM battery, but that may be an old wives' tale)?? And that's the Power button, not the reset button you're supposed to press, I believe. 4. What do you suggest I do? The PB works good, except for the date thing, the non-charging main battery and a few unexpected freezes or shutting off (these rarely happen) Have you tried another battery? I'm wondering if the 'intelligent' battery circuitry has bit the big one on you. (Anyone in the listening audience know if that would produce these symptoms??) I'd like to get it working again, especially the main battery. It's annoying having a PB that HAS to be plugged in all the time. I've opened it and changed the PRAM batteries, there's no leak. Thanks again. Gabriel Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 15:00:25 -0500 From: gponz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PB 3400C Logic Board Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, A while ago I asked you guys for help because my PB 3400c was behaving very wierd. After all the tests you suggested , it seems the problem lies with the logic board. 1. The clock will not stay correct. I've changed the PRAM battery twice and let it charge... still nothing. 2. The main battery will not charge. It worked ok and suddenly one day it would not charge no matter what I do. If I disconnect the power supply the PB shuts off instantly, which means the battery doesn't even have a second of life. 3. It does strange things once in a while, like freezing for no reason or shutting off suddenly. My questions are: 1. Where can I get a logic board? 2. How much will it cost approximately? 3. Where can I find instructions on how to install it? 4. Can I upgrade to a G3? Thanks for the help. Gabriel - Eric. -- Eric Strobel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) = Political correctness is anti-freedom!!! Speak the truth!!! = -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
PB 3400C Logic Board
Hi all, A while ago I asked you guys for help because my PB 3400c was behaving very wierd. After all the tests you suggested, it seems the problem lies with the logic board. 1. The clock will not stay correct. I've changed the PRAM battery twice and let it charge... still nothing. 2. The main battery will not charge. It worked ok and suddenly one day it would not charge no matter what I do. If I disconnect the power supply the PB shuts off instantly, which means the battery doesn't even have a second of life. 3. It does strange things once in a while, like freezing for no reason or shutting off suddenly. My questions are: 1. Where can I get a logic board? 2. How much will it cost approximately? 3. Where can I find instructions on how to install it? 4. Can I upgrade to a G3? Thanks for the help. Gabriel -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: PB 3400C Logic Board
My questions are: 1. Where can I get a logic board? 2. How much will it cost approximately? 3. Where can I find instructions on how to install it? 4. Can I upgrade to a G3? http://www.lowendmac.com/pb2/3400.shtml will give you upgrade info. eBay will surely be able to provide you with a G3 processor and the mfg's site will probably have installation instructions. I've picked up a couple G3 processors off of ebay for around $100 and they worked great! Especially my G3-enabled 1400!!! -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: PB 3400C Logic Board
on 5/29/03 4:28 PM, Tim Earp at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My questions are: 1. Where can I get a logic board? 2. How much will it cost approximately? 3. Where can I find instructions on how to install it? 4. Can I upgrade to a G3? http://www.lowendmac.com/pb2/3400.shtml will give you upgrade info. eBay will surely be able to provide you with a G3 processor and the mfg's site will probably have installation instructions. I've picked up a couple G3 processors off of ebay for around $100 and they worked great! Especially my G3-enabled 1400!!! Except, of course, the original post was regarding a 3400, which is not processor-upgradable. Furthermore, since the problem was not related to the processor so much as it is to the power handling, upgrading the processor wouldn't relieve the reported problem. - Eric. -- Eric Strobel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) = The odds are greatly against you being immensely smarter than everyone else in the field. If your analysis says your terminal velocity is twice the speed of light, you may have invented warp drive, but the chances are a lot better that you've screwed up. = -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: PB 3400C Logic Board
4. Can I upgrade to a G3? http://www.lowendmac.com/pb2/3400.shtml will give you upgrade info. eBay will surely be able to provide you with a G3 processor and the mfg's site will probably have installation instructions. I've picked up a couple G3 processors off of ebay for around $100 and they worked great! Especially my G3-enabled 1400!!! Except, of course, the original post was regarding a 3400, which is not processor-upgradable. Furthermore, since the problem was not related to the processor so much as it is to the power handling, upgrading the processor wouldn't relieve the reported problem. - Eric. Well, he could upgrade to G3 by way of a Kanga logic board... So it is possible... ;-) A motherboard from a PowerBook G3 (original, also known as 3500 or Kanga) is a direct swap for the 3400 motherboard, though I seem to recall there being some RAM compatibility issues with modules greater than 32MB in size or below a certain speed... Someone with more knowledge than I should set me straight if I'm wrong. Peace, Drew -- Author of ClassicStumbler email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.alksoft.com/ Want to know if your neighbor has Wi-Fi? Find out with ClassicStumbler 1.6! Now with REAL cheese! http://www.alksoft.com/classicstumbler.html -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: PB 3400C Logic Board
Just had a very similar machine. It turns out that the PRAM battery was not only bad but had leaked all over the logic board in about a 1 inch diameter. You might want to have a look there and see what's happening... -Scott -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
