Re: OT: My favorite PowerBook

2004-03-20 Thread The Calypso Organization 
We upgrade and generally mess around with donated machines with a view to
redistributing them so we get a chance to try out almost everything in the
older Powerbook ranges.
I gave up on Duos - just do not like them for no very good reason.
We got an old PB530 which we then played around with - incorporated a
PowerPC upgrade card - maxd out its RAM (still low though) - got a IDE to
SCSI drive converter and fitted a 4gb HD and its great except for the
continual problem of batteries  Havnt found a source of a NEW fully
viable battery yet at a reasonable rate.
Liked this machine a lot till I got a 5300 - also maxd this ones RAM at
great expense - fitted a 4gb HD and OS 9.
The only mistake was OS9 - should have stuck to 8.5 or 8.6! Also got a Zip
drive for its floppy bay - VERY useful as all our desktops are Zip equipped
too.

So, all in all its  the 5300c for me.


Gerald



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Re: OT: My favorite PowerBook

2004-03-20 Thread Matthew Cowgill 

--- Ruffin Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am interested in reading which PowerBooks people
> like most.  I like the
> > 1400, it has a sturdy, simple, and intuitive
> design, and a really nice
> > keyboard.  Sure it's cobbled together from a
> 68030-based I/O bus attached to
> > a processor that never was anything spectacular,
> with limited ram and screen
> > size, But it holds a certain charm that most
> PowerBooks lack today.
> > Anyone else have a favorite 'book?
>
> I've been trying to find "the perfect low end 'book"
> for a while now, and think I have three winners,
> depending on what you want to do.
>

SNIP

> "Today's" Internet:  You know, you've got me there.
> I wish I could find something more creative, but I'd
> think it's the cheapest iBook you can find.  iBooks
> have built-in ethernet and "G3 upgrade".  Has USB.
> Nice screen, overall.  Can max out RAM like mad.
> I've got a G3 upgraded 1400 (cache on fritz) that's
> just not quite fast enough and I wish it had more
> RAM.  The iBook comes complete with every upgrade
> you'd be paying for with the souped-up 1400, is
> cheaper, and has USB.
>
> Downside:  Ever tried to upgrade the hard drive in
> an iBook?  Also the machines are too slow to run OS
> X acceptably (at the cheapest), but will run it just
> well enough you'll want to come back for more.  Keep
> OS 9 on there and never look forward!
>

SNIP

I think the 3400 is  a better choice for "Todays"
Internet in terms of value per dollar.

lowend iBooks go for around $350-500 which is also
what you'd end up shelling out to pump up a 1400.

I bought a 3400 for $152 on Ebay that had 144 Megs of
RAM, a 6 gig hard drive, CDROM, built in ethernet,
1000's of colors at 600x800.

Using iCab 2.9.7 with the preferences set to emulate
IE 5.5 for Javascript and to identify itself as
Mozilla 4.5 I can surf all the modern sites without
problems so far and it works just about as well as
Safari 1.2 on my wife's Bondi iMac running Panther.

With iPods being all the rage right now I look at it
as I got a 6 gig iPod that I can surf the web,
communicate with AIM,  play older games, and explore
my artsy side using my older versions of Photoshop,
Illustrator and Freehand all for less than half the
price of the cheapest iPod.  Of course the iPod
battery lasts longer but I can bring my 3400 to work
and plug it into the stereo and not have to listen to
radio commercials all day long.  

> I think the one suggestion for any low end powerbook
> buyer is to get everything you can when you buy the
> 'book.  That is, don't assume you'll piece in the
> modem/ethernet/RAM/etc later.  You'll never get a
> better deal than the pieces that come with the
> intial purchase.
>
> Enough spam for today.
>
> Ruffin Bailey
>

I agree.  You get much better deals at the initial
purchase.  I had toyed around with parting out my 3400
when I got it since from the parts I would have enough
to buy a lowend iBook but then after using the lil
sucker I didn't want the iBook anymore.   I've got a
iBook 800 that I use at work and I dread bringing it
home since all my work stuff will be on the desktop
staring at me.  My trusty lil 3400 has no work stuff
on it and does everything I need a computer to do very
well.  Its going to be part of the family for a long
time.

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Re: OT: My favorite PowerBook

2004-03-19 Thread Ruffin Bailey 
> I am interested in reading which PowerBooks people like most.  I like the
> 1400, it has a sturdy, simple, and intuitive design, and a really nice
> keyboard.  Sure it's cobbled together from a 68030-based I/O bus attached to
> a processor that never was anything spectacular, with limited ram and screen
> size, But it holds a certain charm that most PowerBooks lack today.
> Anyone else have a favorite 'book?

I've been trying to find "the perfect low end 'book" for a while now, and think I have 
three winners, depending on what you want to do.

Word Processor:  Powerbook 150.  You could really use any Powerbook you want for 
typing, but the fact that the hard drive is an IDE drive means replacing it isn't a 
big deal.  Cheap, ports for old Mac printers, and floppy to get the files to any 
Windows box in Kinko's or the like.  $60 new batteries, shipped, makes this a great 
buy.  (http://members.aol.com/dnmonk/powerbooks/index.html)  Can hold 40 megs of RAM.  
Runs 8.1 with Born Again.  Nice.

Downside: No ADB port so no ethernet hacks (though there are directions for making a 
homemade ADB port in the 150 online now), no chance of internal CD-ROM.

Text-based Internet:  Powerbook 500 series.  As I've bragged twice already (sorry), I 
got one for $20 shipped off the net.  At twice or thrice the price, still a great 
deal.  AAUI adpaters seem to be going for $10 shipped, which means you can get on an 
ethernet network for less than the price of a Powerbook 150 battery.  Great ports, and 
used modems are $10 or less (http://powerbookguy.com/500.html#modems).  Ignoring the 
price for a second, the dual battery set-up and PCMCIA card bays mean great potential 
for wireless, mobile monsters.  And for everyone that complains about the AAUI dongle, 
it's no worse (and much more robust) than the ethernet dongle on a 1400 ethernet 
PCMCIA card (and the last 1400 ethernet adpater for the proprietary slot I saw on eBay 
went for $40-50!).

Downside: Underpowered for anything past text-based ethernet, and that's tough to 
stomach these days.  Incredibly expensive battery ($125!!).  Awfully expensive route 
to wireless.  Can't have wireless *AND* dual battery life.  Expensive SCSI hard drive 
means you're likely stuck with whatever your 5XX has now.

"Today's" Internet:  You know, you've got me there.  I wish I could find something 
more creative, but I'd think it's the cheapest iBook you can find.  iBooks have 
built-in ethernet and "G3 upgrade".  Has USB.  Nice screen, overall.  Can max out RAM 
like mad.  I've got a G3 upgraded 1400 (cache on fritz) that's just not quite fast 
enough and I wish it had more RAM.  The iBook comes complete with every upgrade you'd 
be paying for with the souped-up 1400, is cheaper, and has USB.

Downside:  Ever tried to upgrade the hard drive in an iBook?  Also the machines are 
too slow to run OS X acceptably (at the cheapest), but will run it just well enough 
you'll want to come back for more.  Keep OS 9 on there and never look forward!

I think the one suggestion for any low end powerbook buyer is to get everything you 
can when you buy the 'book.  That is, don't assume you'll piece in the 
modem/ethernet/RAM/etc later.  You'll never get a better deal than the pieces that 
come with the intial purchase.

Enough spam for today.

Ruffin Bailey

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Re: OT: My favorite PowerBook

2004-03-19 Thread Jason R 
Has anyone done any nice visual modifications to the newer metal PB 
series (AL or TI) that they have pics of, Id love to see em'
On Mar 19, 2004, at 07:34, maxtek wrote:


1400, it has a sturdy, simple, and intuitive design, and a really nice
keyboard.  Sure it's cobbled together from a 68030-based I/O bus 
attached
to
a processor that never was anything spectacular, with limited ram and
screen
size, But it holds a certain charm that most PowerBooks lack today.
Anyone else have a favorite 'book?>

My favorite is the "Powerbook Krush"

It has 32MB/1.1Gig Drive (with IDE adapter), Active Matrix Display, 
PCMCIA
Adapter, New BTI Battery, Clear Trackpad, Matching Flame Power 
Adapter, Two
Toned Keyboard (beige and gray) and its Tangerine iBook wannabe design.

Here's a pic:



and a pic of the trackpad:



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Re: OT: My favorite PowerBook

2004-03-19 Thread Andrew Kershaw 
My favorite is the "Powerbook Krush"
Yeah, I have to (sort of) agree.  My favorite is my "RedBook 5300." 
I painted it a nice fire-engine red color.  Since the following 
pictures were taken, I put in the red clutch covers and removed the 
black plastic trackpad cover, exposing the gold metal underneath 
(covering that with a sheet of clear plastic).  It's very striking.

As far as actual usability goes, I have to go with the Pismo as 
another poster has already described.

Pics can be seen at:

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Re: OT: My favorite PowerBook

2004-03-19 Thread Jeff Hubatka 
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 19:01:34 -0500
Subject: OT: My favorite PowerBook
From: Daniel Garcia-Rivera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I am interested in reading which PowerBooks people like most.  I like 
the
1400, it has a sturdy, simple, and intuitive design, and a really nice
keyboard.  Sure it's cobbled together from a 68030-based I/O bus 
attached to
a processor that never was anything spectacular, with limited ram and 
screen
size, But it holds a certain charm that most PowerBooks lack today.
Anyone else have a favorite 'book?

--Dan G-R
My personal favorite is the 500-series Blackbirds. I bought a used 520 
with 4MB and a 160MB drive back in 1995 from an AOL classified ad and 
used it regularly for three years while I worked for a community 
college athletic department. The two batteries, full-size screen, 
automatic sleep and trackpad were great for me and revolutionary at the 
time, along with other things like stereo speakers, built-in ethernet, 
and function keys. I still have that computer, it's just recently 
retired from service as my fax machine, since OSX finally has somewhat 
decent faxing capability. Over the years I've upgraded it to 500MB hard 
drive, 40MB RAM, 100mhz PPC chip, and a 540c screen.
For Powerbooks off of this list, I do like the looks of the 
Lombard/Pismo (I have one of each), but my regular machine is a 
Titanium 500mhz.

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Re: OT: My favorite PowerBook

2004-03-19 Thread COCCORP 
In a message dated 3/19/2004 9:34:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

> 
> It has 32MB/1.1Gig Drive (with IDE adapter), Active Matrix Display, PCMCIA
> Adapter, New BTI Battery, Clear Trackpad, Matching Flame Power Adapter, Two
> Toned Keyboard (beige and gray) and its Tangerine iBook 
> wannabe design.
>

FUNKY!!

I mean... FOWUN-KAY! DAYUM!

...and here I THOUHGT I was being unique by having a few clipped pics in the "clear 
cover" top of my 1400c?!?

...you WIN!

Craig W.
ATL, GA

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Re: OT: My favorite PowerBook

2004-03-18 Thread Cameron Kaiser 
> I am interested in reading which PowerBooks people like most.  I like the
> 1400, it has a sturdy, simple, and intuitive design, and a really nice
> keyboard.  Sure it's cobbled together from a 68030-based I/O bus attached to
> a processor that never was anything spectacular, with limited ram and screen
> size, But it holds a certain charm that most PowerBooks lack today.
> Anyone else have a favorite 'book?

I'm a big 1400 fan as well. My 1400c+G3/333, which started life as a lowly
1400cs/117, has done so well and upgraded so splendidly that I'm going to
buy it a 466MHz G3 rather than saving for a new one. I expect it will yield
me solid service for many more years.

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Re: OT: My favorite PowerBook

2004-03-18 Thread macdaniel3400c 
>The duo I have yet to get running, but I like the ridges.

Same here, although the ridges on the non color Duos are a bit better (they
extend the whole length of the lid) and its screen is much thinner so its
very flimsy feeling.  Very svelte.



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Re: OT: My favorite PowerBook

2004-03-18 Thread Daniel Garcia-Rivera 
Yeah,  I also have a 190cs, a duo 280c and a WallStreet (in addition to my
beloved 1400.)  I really like the 190's graceful lines, but I also like the
fact that most of the bottom case of the WallStreet serves as a heatsink.
The duo I have yet to get running, but I like the ridges.


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Re: OT: My favorite PowerBook

2004-03-18 Thread macdaniel3400c 
>Pismo.
>
>Probably the best example of Apple design, IMHO.
>
>Very slinky design (even if the glowing Apple is upside down whilst 
>using it), and possibly the most upgradable laptop ever made. (10 mins 
>to swap the hard drive, 5 mins to do memory / Airport, probably about 
>the same to swap the processor card for a G4), loads of ports on the 
>back, dual-battery capacity, swappable media - what more could you 
>want?
>
>SteveH

I enjoy the sexiness of the Pismo/Lombard as well.  However they're too
flimsy for me.  If you wan't a laptop for its character, it has to be
something chunky.  Something pre wallstreet!



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Re: OT: My favorite PowerBook

2004-03-18 Thread Steve Hamer 
On 19 Mar 2004, at 00:01, Daniel Garcia-Rivera wrote:

I am interested in reading which PowerBooks people like most.  I like 
the
1400, it has a sturdy, simple, and intuitive design, and a really nice
keyboard.  Sure it's cobbled together from a 68030-based I/O bus 
attached to
a processor that never was anything spectacular, with limited ram and 
screen
size, But it holds a certain charm that most PowerBooks lack today.
Anyone else have a favorite 'book?
Pismo.

Probably the best example of Apple design, IMHO.

Very slinky design (even if the glowing Apple is upside down whilst 
using it), and possibly the most upgradable laptop ever made. (10 mins 
to swap the hard drive, 5 mins to do memory / Airport, probably about 
the same to swap the processor card for a G4), loads of ports on the 
back, dual-battery capacity, swappable media - what more could you 
want?

SteveH

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Re: OT: My favorite PowerBook

2004-03-18 Thread macdaniel3400c 
>1400, it has a sturdy, simple, and intuitive design, and a really nice
>keyboard.  Sure it's cobbled together from a 68030-based I/O bus attached 
>to
>a processor that never was anything spectacular, with limited ram and 
>screen
>size, But it holds a certain charm that most PowerBooks lack today.
>Anyone else have a favorite 'book?>
>
>Well, the only one I've had personal experience with is the one I have, 
>the 190. But I really, REALLY love it.  :-)

I have had lots of PowerBooks (including a 190cs), and an iBook.

I have to say by far my favorite PowerBook is my 3400c/240... 
(see site:  http://www.palkasoft.com/hooper/  )

I even sold my 366mhz iBook to help pay for 3400c parts.  I'm that crazy
about it.  It is the best.



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Re: OT: My favorite PowerBook

2004-03-18 Thread Yersinia 


Well, the only one I've had personal experience with is the one I have, 
the 190. But I really, REALLY love it.  :-)

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