Re: Outbound (was: Powerbook 100 screen)

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Got this when trying to access applefritter:

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Re: Outbound (was: Powerbook 100 screen)

[Cameron Kaiser]

> Yeah Applefritter got pretty throughly hacked...three days ago I went  
> there and there was this big screen 'This website pwned by Haxorgang'  
> or some such. Then day before yesterday they were refusing  
> connections and they still are.

It was probably a .php exploit. I was never very comfortable with php and
the recent spate of attacks has pretty much convinced me not to run any
php-based system for awhile until it's settled down.

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Re: Outbound (was: Powerbook 100 screen)

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jul 21, 2005, at 3:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


My first notebook was the Outbound Notebook(not the "laptop"), with  
built-in
keyboard, given to me few years ago with effective 11mb RAM, 68030  
processor,
DB25 SCSI port, ADB, floppy drive, easy HD replacement slot.  
Love it,
could check email with AOL 2.7 (now defunct IIRC), though rarely  
use it anymore,

what with my Wallstreet, 3400's, 1400's, etc.Applefritter.com has
pictures/info, if they're up and running again.


Yeah Applefritter got pretty throughly hacked...three days ago I went  
there and there was this big screen 'This website pwned by Haxorgang'  
or some such. Then day before yesterday they were refusing  
connections and they still are.


I'd be interested to know what OS/Server they were running...

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Re: Outbound (was: Powerbook 100 screen)

[SaulBro]

<< > I have a few Outbounds. They came out before the Portable. They were

> advanced with detachable Keyboards and the Isobar mouse and you can

> even use VHS camcorder batteries in them.


Heard about these before, but never actually saw one in my life. They 

are virtually non-existant in Europe (ever seen a kangaroo outside a 

zoo over here? ;-) I never said Apple was the only company with clever 

ideas way back then. And using widely available camcorder batts (if you 

have the space) seems a very clever idea. Don't know about the Isobar 

Mouse, but a detachable keyboard doesn't sound so bad either. I still 

think the PB 100's set-back keyboard was a good alternative to this and 

one of the most ingenious realisations in industrial design of the last 

decades, readily imitated by its competitors and more or less a 

standard now. ISTR Outbound was always on the ledge of being sued by 

Apple for copyright infringement or even actually was, but my memory 

isn't very precise on this subject.>>

My first notebook was the Outbound Notebook(not the "laptop"), with built-in 
keyboard, given to me few years ago with effective 11mb RAM, 68030 processor, 
DB25 SCSI port, ADB, floppy drive, easy HD replacement slot. Love it, 
could check email with AOL 2.7 (now defunct IIRC), though rarely use it 
anymore, 
what with my Wallstreet, 3400's, 1400's, etc.Applefritter.com has 
pictures/info, if they're up and running again.

Saul Broudy
Philadelphia, PA  USA


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Re: Outbound

[Jeff Walther]

>Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 20:43:45 -0500
>From: Mycroft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
>I've not followed all of this discussion, and it would be great to
>have one, but I did run across a link to an Outbound User's Group:
>
>

There doesn't actually seem to be any User Group to that link though. 
The guy who runs the site is a former Outbound employee and he's a 
nice guy who will answer questions and help out, but I've never found 
any feature to allow members to converse amongst themselves.   It 
would really be more accurate to call it an Outbound Support Site.

Jeff Walther

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Re: Outbound

[Mycroft]

I've not followed all of this discussion, and it would be great to 
have one, but I did run across a link to an Outbound User's Group:



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Re: Outbound

[Aly]

Fascinating. Yes, it makes me wish I had one of these hanging about in the
basement. If anyone comes across an available one, do please post the news.
Sometimes these sorts of machines are left in trash heaps at big places like
universities, but I didn't know of any the last time our U purged one of its
departments. It used to be an all-Mac campus; now, sadly, that's changing.

Aly
(University of Kansas)

Jeff Walther wrote:

> Back in the early nineties (late 80's?)  Outbound made unlicensed Mac
> clones by scavenging ROMs from existing Macintoshes.  All the clones
> they made were laptop and notebook models.  They had some very cool
> features.


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Re: Outbound

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Thanks for the "OutBound" info. Interesting, the business side of it, too. 
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Re: Outbound

[David R.]

Jeff,  That's a real interesting unit.  Never seen an Outbound before of any
version.  I suppose it will probably become a collector's item one of these
days, especially w/ that IR link.  It's also interesting that
http://www.everymac.com does not list 'every mac' after all.

Dave



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Re: Outbound

[Jeff Walther]

>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 11:29:40 EDT
>
>What's an Outbound?


Back in the early nineties (late 80's?)  Outbound made unlicensed Mac 
clones by scavenging ROMs from existing Macintoshes.  All the clones 
they made were laptop and notebook models.  They had some very cool 
features.

The Laptop Model 125 ran a 15 MHz 68000 which was comparable to 
Apple's Mac Portable.  But the 125 only weighed 9 lbs where the 
portable weighed 16 lbs.  I don't know what the starting list price 
for the 125 was, but list on the Apple Portable was $6,500.  On the 
other hand, the Apple Portable had that nice active matrix screen 
(125 was passive) and, I think, longer battery life.  But the 125 
used standard Camcorder batteries, so for the difference in price and 
weight, you could carry a few extra charged batteries for the 125.

The 125 could only have either a hard drive or a floppy drive 
installed internally, but here was an external floppy, making it 
similar to the PowerBook 100 before the PB100 came out.   But, the 
125 could dock via cable with the Compact Mac from which the ROMs 
were scavenged, giving you two monitors (albeit, small ones) and 
access to the Compact Mac's ports.  I'm still looking for one of the 
docking cards, or to borrow one long enough so that I can copy it.

The 125 also has a cool detachable IR keyboard which has a very nice 
feel to it.  And there's a port on the keyboard into which you can 
plug a PS2 mouse.

Often overlooked is the Silicon Disk feature.  The 125 has four extra 
30 pin SIMM slots inside (8 total).  The four extras are solely for a 
silicon disk.  So, if you could install up to 16 MB of RAM in the 
four extra slots and have a 16 MB RAM disk on the machine.   When 
shut down, the battery maintained it's contents and there was a 
back-up battery to allow you to change the main battery without 
losing the Silicon Disk contents.  Having the OS and applications on 
the Silicon Disk made the 125 very fast.

The link Dave R (Hi, Dave!) put up covers the Outbound Notebook, but 
not the earlier Laptop 125.  The Laptop 125 is described in more 
detail here:  http://www.applefritter.com/macclones/outbound/laptop/

EveryMac says they were only around from 91 - 92 but I could swear 
they were around longer than that.   But that was a long time ago, so 
maybe the period during which I saw all those ads in MacUser and 
MacWorld seems longer than it was.  EveryMac also says that the PB100 
put them out of business, but it wasn't just the PB100.   The PB100 
could outcompete the Outbound Laptop, but the Outbound Notebooks had 
68030 processors and were as light as a normal notebook.   It was the 
whole line of first PBs that ran them out of business.

I know they were around before the PowerBooks, and they lasted about 
six months to a year after PowerBooks were introduced.   The Outbound 
actually had some advantages over the first PowerBooks (less 
expensive, standard expansion of RAM/hard drive) but they just 
couldn't compete in users' minds with the sleek PB 100/140 and 170. 
MacUser and MacWorld of that era had ads from Outbound doing a 
tabular comparison of the Outbound models to the PowerBooks and 
showing how the Outbounds were a better buy.

The notebook computer in the movie "Single White Female" is an Outbound.

Jeff Walther


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Re: Outbound

[Jeff Walther]

>From: Cameron Kaiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 08:35:54 -0700 (PDT)
>
>>  I just joined the list. Are there are any Outbound owners/users here?
>
>Hey, happy to see you here! Wish I had an Outbound, myself.

Hi Cameron.   It's a pleasant surprise to find you here.

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Re: Outbound

[David R.]

I too was curious about what an Outbound was.  Went to the old faithful spec
site. 
http://www.everymac.com/systems/outbound/notebooks/notebook_2030.html

Hi Jeff!

Dave
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Re: Outbound

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What's an Outbound?

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Re: Outbound

[Cameron Kaiser]

> I just joined the list. Are there are any Outbound owners/users here?

Hey, happy to see you here! Wish I had an Outbound, myself.

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Re: Outbound

[Paul Nelson]

At 3:22 AM -0500 8/10/02, Jeff Walther wrote:
>I just joined the list. Are there are any Outbound owners/users here?
>
>I don't have any Outbound questions, I just wonder if there's some
>place where they gather electronically.   I have several Outbound
>Model 125 Laptops.

I have a 25 Mhz 2030, which I'm intending to sell very soon.  Too
many laptops!  I'm not aware of any lists for them, though.
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