Adding sounds to PM

[Pat O'Halloran]

Hi all (especially Ira)

After successfully adding a custom sound to PM using Ira's script a
couple of weeks ago I tried again with the recent alpha release. After
dropping the sound onto the script I get this message

Can't get item 1 of {}

Has something changed in this version to stop the script working?

Thanks

-- 
Pat O'Halloran http://www.danu.co.uk  
History is a hard core of interpretation surrounded by a pulp of
disputable facts. - Anon

Re: [ANN] PowerMail 4.2 private preview

[Pat O'Halloran]

It appears that on 6/7/03 PowerMail info spake thus:

>
>* Ultra-fast indexing and searching: preliminary benchmarks show
>performance gains ranging from 300% to over 500%

Very impressive indeed

-- 
Pat O'Halloran http://www.danu.co.uk  
TB or not TB, that is the congestion - Woody Allen

Re: list archive, emailer import

[Frank Mitchell]

Hello Jay

>>Thanks for your reply.  The script that you mentioned below is no longer
>>in that directory.  Does anyone on this list have a copy?  If so, please
>>email it to me if you are willing.
>
>>>http://www.debonne.net/temp/ImportExport-v3.1.sit
>
>I too am interested in trying a script to assist in importing my Emailer
>database. There are probably several of us on this list who would enjoy
>checking it out. If any can find it, or have it, please pass it along.
Thanks.

I tried to send a copy of this file to the list but it was rejected
presumably because of the attachment.

So I have now sent copies direct to Jim and Jay.

-- Frank Mitchell, Scottsdale, Arizona

Re: Transplant from Desktop to Laptop

[John Hay]

Since I can't use PM on my laptop the way it is now anyway and all my 
"good" files are still intact on my desktop back the office, maybe I'll 
try running the new pm4.2a5-preview just on the chance that this new 
preview release ends up totally rebuilding what's on my laptop and I 
end up being able to therefore us PM.  I'll check my email later 
tonight when I get back in case there are any better ideas, before I do 
anything.

Thanks in advance for any ideas, I have nothing to loose, so I can try 
anything.
John

On Sunday, July 6, 2003, at 01:55  PM, John Hay wrote:

>
> I know this is all at my own risk, and maybe not even possible the way
> I have attempted to do it and in the mean time while traveling I'll
> have to just mail.app (aarrrgghh!) but at least it will work and I can
> send and receive.
>
> Actions I took:   While still connected to our LAN in the office to
> attempt to copy all needed files from my desktop to my laptop to run PM
> "as-if" I were sitting at my desktop, but on my laptop instead, all
> filters, accounts, settings, configs, the works.
>
> I copied ALL the folders and ALL the files and also my PMKey which I
> could find from my desktop to the exact same location on my laptop,
> using Finder after having run a search to locate any files containing
> the word "powermail", etc.
>
> Then downloaded the most recent version of PM, 4.1.3 from PM's web site
> and dragged the OSX PM icon to my apps folder.  This is the same
> version I am running on my desktop, but I'm not at my desktop, I am
> traveling and I'm using my PowerBook G4.
>
> Problems:  When I launch PM, it launches fine, starts to check all the
> accounts I have set up, may or may not successfully download the first
> message, then quits "unexpectedly".  If I relaunch PM again, the same
> thing keeps happening.
>
> I know, I know, I probably just should have set up PM from scratch on
> my laptop, but then would have had to take the time to enter all the
> hundreds of filters, accounts, etc. which I normally use.
>
> Any ideas on how I could possibly launch PM on my laptop in some type
> of a diagnostic or auto-correct any database corruption, etc. ?
>
>
>
> John Hay
> In Manhattan for the DV and MacWorld shows.
>
>

Transplant from Desktop to Laptop

[John Hay]

I know this is all at my own risk, and maybe not even possible the way
I have attempted to do it and in the mean time while traveling I'll
have to just mail.app (aarrrgghh!) but at least it will work and I can
send and receive.

Actions I took:   While still connected to our LAN in the office to
attempt to copy all needed files from my desktop to my laptop to run PM
"as-if" I were sitting at my desktop, but on my laptop instead, all
filters, accounts, settings, configs, the works.

I copied ALL the folders and ALL the files and also my PMKey which I
could find from my desktop to the exact same location on my laptop,
using Finder after having run a search to locate any files containing
the word "powermail", etc.

Then downloaded the most recent version of PM, 4.1.3 from PM's web site
and dragged the OSX PM icon to my apps folder.  This is the same
version I am running on my desktop, but I'm not at my desktop, I am
traveling and I'm using my PowerBook G4.

Problems:  When I launch PM, it launches fine, starts to check all the
accounts I have set up, may or may not successfully download the first
message, then quits "unexpectedly".  If I relaunch PM again, the same
thing keeps happening.

I know, I know, I probably just should have set up PM from scratch on
my laptop, but then would have had to take the time to enter all the
hundreds of filters, accounts, etc. which I normally use.

Any ideas on how I could possibly launch PM on my laptop in some type
of a diagnostic or auto-correct any database corruption, etc. ?

John Hay
In Manhattan for the DV and MacWorld shows. 

[ANN] PowerMail 4.2 private preview

[PowerMail info]

Greetings,

We are pleased to make a preview of PowerMail 4.2 available exclusively
to members of the PowerMail discuss list for testing. 

This is NOT a public release, please do not repost outside of the
PowerMail user community, thank you.

---
What's new in the PowerMail 4.2 preview (4.2a5)
---

- Now includes entirely new CTM FoxTrot(TM) high-speed search technology;
benefits over previous PowerMail releases include:

* Ultra-fast indexing and searching: preliminary benchmarks show
performance gains ranging from 300% to over 500%
* Instant on-the-fly indexing upon fetching messages
* Entirely based on Unicode for better international text searching

* Colored hiliting of search results in a message's body
* Additional search features:
  - Ability to restrict searches to subject, to, from or body
  - Search literal (ie: "the quick brown fox")
  - Search words starting with (ie: quick brown f* )
  - Search for numbers
  - Omit words (ie: quick brown -shoe -typewriter)
  - OR searches (ie: quick|rapid|fast brown fox) (see search dialog for
more  
information)
*  Gets rid of all former "Lady" errors
*  Background indexing now fully reliable on Mac OS X
* Most of the re-indexing process occurs in a background thread, allowing
simultaneous work in the application (this used to only be true for
updating the index).
*  Supports both Mac OS X and Mac OS 9

- ! Also new in 4.2a5: Now compatible with the WWDC "Panther" (Mac OS X
10.3) preview !

Known limitations in this version:
- This release ships as a Stuffit archive and not yet as a disk image
- Because of a dependency on Unicode, Mac OS 8.6 is not planned to be
supported in PowerMail 4.2; at the very least, it is not in the current
version.

---
5 steps to better searching - how to install:
---

1. In order to access this software, we ask that you join the ad hoc
"PowerMail-testing" discussion list by clicking on the following link:



The confirmation message will contain the URL to download the 4.2 preview
from.

2. Make a backup of your current PowerMail files folder. Although we are
confident enough to use this software on our own main databases, keep in
mind that PowerMail 4.2a5 will make changes to your current databases
which will no longer be readable by 4.1.3. As with any pre-release
software, use it responsibly and at your own risk.

3. Install PowerMail 4.2a5 and launch it; as a default, a fresh folder
named "PowerMail files 4.2a" will be created in your User folder. If you
wish to convert a copy of your 4.1 database (see point 2 above), use
"Switch user environments" in the Database submenu of the File menu

4. After converting your database and deleting your now-obsolete V-Twin
indexes, PowerMail should automatically begin the indexing process. If
for some reason you wish to rebuild your index later, you may do so with
the "Rebuild Indexes" item of the Database submenu of the File menu

5. Once the index is complete, start searching ! Compare former search
results and performance, and please discuss your findings either on the
PowerMail-testing list exclusively, or by private post to us at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] We are especially interested in feedback from Japanese-
and Chinese-language users with respect to the way words are broken up
for indexing; possible crash logs, with the situations that mght have
lead to them, are also of interest.

Thanks in advance, and kind regards,

The PowerMail development team
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: list archive, emailer import

[James Pistrang]

Hi Jay,

>This is absolutely correct. The importing process might yield a few more
>than 200 ( I think I got around 280), but then you'll get an error code
>and probably need to force quit the program to get out of it.

It allowed me to import 433 messages from a CE folder, I then got an
AppleTalk error which may or may not be related to the PM limit.

At any rate, I found the export script at 

Looks like a bit of an arduous path to get all of my messages out of CE
and into PM, but it also looks like it can be done.

Jim
-- 
Jim Pistrang
JP Computer Resources
413-256-4569
http://users.crocker.com/~pistrang

Re: list archive, emailer import

[Jay]

On 7/6/03, Chris typed:

>I may be wrong, but if it's the evaluation copy of PM you are using (IE
>unregistered), I think it will only hold up to 200msgs.  This is way
>below what you will have in Claris emailer so any import process will
>fall over when the  limit is reached.  Might be worth checking this
>before you get too far.

This is absolutely correct. The importing process might yield a few more
than 200 ( I think I got around 280), but then you'll get an error code
and probably need to force quit the program to get out of it.

---Jay

Re: list archive, emailer import

[Chris Walker]

On 5/7/03 James Pistrang wrote: 

>2) I'm evaluating PowerMail 4.1.3, and I just tried importing my Emailer
>database.  .
>Is there a (relatively) fast way to move my mail archives from Emailer to
>PowerMail?  
I may be wrong, but if it's the evaluation copy of PM you are using (IE
unregistered), I think it will only hold up to 200msgs.  This is way
below what you will have in Claris emailer so any import process will
fall over when the  limit is reached.  Might be worth checking this
before you get too far.

cheers,
Chris

Re: list archive, emailer import

[Frank Mitchell]

Hello Barbara

>The following is from my own personal archive: [The answer comes before
>the question, in this particular exchange.]
>
>>Frank,
>>
>>In this email, I copy/pasted from a previous post the best way to 
>>transfer from CE to Powermail.  I promise you, this will work:

snip.

I was the Frank to which this was originally addressed when I had just
got PM and posted the same question.

I just just to say that Yann's method worked for me too except that I was
lucky enough not to have any zero K messages.

Thank you again Yann 8^)

-- Frank Mitchell, Scottsdale, Arizona

Re: list archive, emailer import

[Mirko Kranenburg]

While there isn't a real archive, I've just put up my personal archive on
the web, for whomever might think it is useful.
It is in iData Pro format and as tab-text, and it isn't too extensive as
I only started using PowerMail less than a year ago.

Find it at 

-- 
Mirko Kranenburg
Maastricht, Netherlands
e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

OS X 10.2.6, Quicksilver 733, 1 Gb RAM
Freeway Pro, NavPack, GraphPack,
PowerMail 4.1.3, 3 panes
The whole MarinerPak

On Sat, 5 Jul 2003 18:48:13 -0400 James Pistrang wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I'm new to this list, so forgive me if these questions have already been
>asked.
>
>1) Is there an online archive of this list?
>
>2) I'm evaluating PowerMail 4.1.3, and I just tried importing my Emailer
>database.  My Emailer Mail Database is 107mb and the Mail Index is 24mb.
> I optimized them prior to starting the import.  PowerMail says that it
>will take 1360 hours, which is a tad long.  Am I doing something wrong? 
>Is there a (relatively) fast way to move my mail archives from Emailer to
>PowerMail?  
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jim
>
>-- 
>Jim Pistrang
>JP Computer Resources
>413-256-4569
>http://users.crocker.com/~pistrang
>
>
>
>

Re: list archive, emailer import

[Jay]

On 7/5/03, James typed:

>Thanks for your reply.  The script that you mentioned below is no longer
>in that directory.  Does anyone on this list have a copy?  If so, please
>email it to me if you are willing.

>>http://www.debonne.net/temp/ImportExport-v3.1.sit

I too am interested in trying a script to assist in importing my Emailer
database. There are probably several of us on this list who would enjoy
checking it out. If any can find it, or have it, please pass it along. Thanks.

---Jay

Re: list archive, emailer import

[James Pistrang]

Hi Barbara,

Thanks for your reply.  The script that you mentioned below is no longer
in that directory.  Does anyone on this list have a copy?  If so, please
email it to me if you are willing.

Jim

>>There is a small AppleScript written by an "R Shapiro" that exports CE 
>>mailboxes into a Eudora format which Powermail reads "almost" 
>>perfectly.  This script is mentioned on Powermail's website, but the 
>>link is outdated and dead.  I searched the Internet and found it at 
>>another site which I've forgotten.  I put the script here:
>>http://www.debonne.net/temp/ImportExport-v3.1.sit

-- 
Jim Pistrang
JP Computer Resources
413-256-4569
http://users.crocker.com/~pistrang

Re: list archive, emailer import

[Barbara Needham]

James Pistrang on 7/5/03 said

>Hi all,
>
>I'm new to this list, so forgive me if these questions have already been
>asked.
>
>1) Is there an online archive of this list?

No. Except in the files of many of us.
>
>2) I'm evaluating PowerMail 4.1.3, and I just tried importing my Emailer
>database.  My Emailer Mail Database is 107mb and the Mail Index is 24mb.
> I optimized them prior to starting the import.  PowerMail says that it
>will take 1360 hours, which is a tad long.  Am I doing something wrong? 
>Is there a (relatively) fast way to move my mail archives from Emailer to
>PowerMail?  

The following is from my own personal archive: [The answer comes before
the question, in this particular exchange.]

>Frank,
>
>In this email, I copy/pasted from a previous post the best way to 
>transfer from CE to Powermail.  I promise you, this will work:
>
>Forget all the automated stuff built into Powermailer, it doesn't work 
>except for the importing of a CE address book.  What I found to be the 
>problem with all the fancy import/export options is the fact that most, 
>if not all want to import an entire database.  This doesn't ever seem 
>to work.
>
>There is a small AppleScript written by an "R Shapiro" that exports CE 
>mailboxes into a Eudora format which Powermail reads "almost" 
>perfectly.  This script is mentioned on Powermail's website, but the 
>link is outdated and dead.  I searched the Internet and found it at 
>another site which I've forgotten.  I put the script here:
>http://www.debonne.net/temp/ImportExport-v3.1.sit
>
>* If you have several mailboxes (folders) in CE, I'd recommend making a 
>finder folder, say on your desktop for you put your exported CE folders 
>(mailboxes).  This is the key to why this script works.
>
>* Simply drop the ImportExport AppleScript into CE's AppleScript 
>folder, and then boot up CE.
>
>* Here's the trick - SINGLE-CLICK on ONE mailbox (folder) in your 
>folder list.  Then, pull down the AppleScript menu in CE and choose the 
>EXPORT-EUDORA option.  Do this for EACH folder in CE.  NOTE: If you 
>have a folder with more than...oh, 200 emails, this will take a while.  
>You'll think your computer locked up on you.  It DID NOT!  Be patient.  
>Huge folders can take close to 45 minutes!
>
>* Quit CE, and open up Powermail.  Choose IMPORT from the FILE -> 
>DATABASE menu.  Then choose EMAIL MESSAGE, then EUDORA, then A SINGLE 
>E-MAIL DATABASE.  Again, this is the important part.  Import each 
>single CE folder, one after the other.
>
>The reason why I wrote above, "...Powermail reads "almost perfectly" is 
>because some of your emails will import as zero k, meaning an empty 
>email.  What I did was, sort Powermail by file size and found all the 
>zero k emails.  Then I opened up CE and did the same to see what didn't 
>import.  I either re-directed the ones I wanted from CE and emailed 
>them to Powermail (set up CE to only send and not receive) or I simply 
>deleted them because they weren't that important anyway. ;)
>
>I hope this helps.  I've done this import/export at least a dozen times 
>with flawless success (except for the zero k issue).
>
>Good luck,
>
>Yann
>
>
>On Sunday, October 20, 2002, at 08:23  PM, Frank Mitchell wrote:
>
>> This is my first message to this list.
>>
>> I sent this request for help to PowerMail tech help some days ago, but 
>> so
>> far have not received a reply. This is holding up my migration from my
>> old PPC 8600 (with Mac OS 7) to a new Dual G4 (with Mac OS 10.2.1).
>>
>> My problem is transferring my old email messages from Claris Emailer
>> 2.0v3 (on the PPC 8600) into PowerMail 4.0.1 on the G4. I've tried two 
>> of
>> the procedures described in the manual.
>>
>> 1.  I copied my old Emailer folder from the 8600 and filed it under
>> Applications (Mac OS 9) on the G4.
>>
>> In PowerMail, File->Database->Import brings up the Import Assistant. I
>> imported the Address Book first and this appears to be generally OK.
>>
>> But, when I select 'E-mail messages', Emailer is not listed among the
>> applications available to import from.
>>
>> 2.  I then imported my old message folders into Outlook Express 5.0.2
>> which was already installed on the G4. They now appear as sub folders 
>> in
>> a folder titled 'Emailer Import'
>>
>> But, in the Import Assistant, the only Outlook Express program 
>> available
>> to select is version 4.x. When I navigate to the Outlook folder, the
>> application is grayed out.
>>
>> I haven't tried the third or fourth import methods (of downloading the
>> scripts) yet, I am hoping to make one of the above two methods work.
>>
>> I have looked for an older version of PowerMail on their Web site in 
>> the
>> hope that I could import direct from Emailer into that, then into
>> PowerMail 4. I also tried to find a copy of Outlook Express 4.x on the
>> Microsoft Web site. I could find neither.
>>
>> If anyone has already achieved the above I would appreciate some help.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> Frank
>>
>>
>>

list archive, emailer import

[James Pistrang]

Hi all,

I'm new to this list, so forgive me if these questions have already been
asked.

1) Is there an online archive of this list?

2) I'm evaluating PowerMail 4.1.3, and I just tried importing my Emailer
database.  My Emailer Mail Database is 107mb and the Mail Index is 24mb.
 I optimized them prior to starting the import.  PowerMail says that it
will take 1360 hours, which is a tad long.  Am I doing something wrong? 
Is there a (relatively) fast way to move my mail archives from Emailer to
PowerMail?  

Thanks,

Jim

-- 
Jim Pistrang
JP Computer Resources
413-256-4569
http://users.crocker.com/~pistrang