Re: SMTP authentication 'protocol error' against OSXS mail server

2004-07-28 Thread PowerMail Engineering

michael dunston wrote:

What SSL protocols are supported by Powermail for SMTP
authentication? I am trying to use use PM's smtp auth against a Mac
OSXS 10.3 server (with a self-signed cert) and am unable to make it
work.

PowerMail currently only supports SSL on a specific port (port 465 by
default for SMTP), but does not support SSL on the standard port (25 for
SMTP) using the STARTTLS command.


Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering


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Re: So how 'bout that Recent Window keystroke?

2004-07-28 Thread Zeph Bender

Bingo -- same app, too.  Didn't even realize it was still installed on my
machine.  Now deleting; thanks for that!

z

On 7/28/2004 at 11:01 AM, PowerMail discussions wrote:

In my case, it was because I had A Better Finder Rename installed, and it
was eating the keystroke before PowerMail ever got a chance. Have you
checked all your 3-party haxies?





Re: PowerMail support case #MYVAPY

2004-07-28 Thread Mirko Kranenburg

 All of a sudden PM stopped being able to make connections to the
 mail-servers of my different accounts.
 Rebuilding everything after starting PM with command-option pressed
 doesn't help.

 I have no idea what brought this on. The attached screendump shows 
 the
 error message I get after waiting a long time.
 The screendump states:
 Unexpected error on pop.xs4all.nl
 Class='NetC', what=3, when=3, err=-355


 Please help! I have to use Mail to deal with my mail now, but that
 doesn't help me, because I rely heavily on rules.

 Thanks,

 Mirko









Re: So how 'bout that Recent Window keystroke?

2004-07-28 Thread alan

In my case, it was because I had A Better Finder Rename installed, and it
was eating the keystroke before PowerMail ever got a chance. Have you
checked all your 3-party haxies?

A

Zeph Bender at Wed, 21 Jul 2004 10:09:53 -0700 said:

Forgetting for a moment my ongoing issue with at least one user's
inability to launch PDFs directly when received via PM; surely the
techies at CTM have some idea why some of us here are unable to use the
Cmd-Ctrl-R keystroke to bring up the Recent Mail window?  All the other
Cmd-Ctrl-x keystrokes work fine...  Very annoying.

z











SMTP authentication 'protocol error' against OSXS mail server

2004-07-28 Thread michael dunston

Does anyone konw what SSL protocols are supported by Powermail for
SMTP authentication? I am trying to use use PM's smtp auth against a
Mac OSXS 10.3 server (with a self-signed cert) and am unable to make
it work.  Other mail clients (Mail.app and Mailsmith) work just fine
using the same settings. With powermail however, I receive an 'SSL
protocol error' dialog.  Thanks for any information you can offer.


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SMTP authentication 'protocol error' against OSXS mail server

2004-07-28 Thread michael dunston

What SSL protocols are supported by Powermail for SMTP
authentication? I am trying to use use PM's smtp auth against a Mac
OSXS 10.3 server (with a self-signed cert) and am unable to make it
work.  Other mail clients (Mail.app and Mailsmith) work just fine
using the same settings. With powermail however, I receive an 'SSL
protocol error' dialog.


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other kind of notification that sending failed

2004-07-28 Thread Mikael Byström

Daniel, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

I would like to see some other kind of notification that mail does not go
out than just the yellow triangle.

My proposal is a triangle symbol on the outgoing folder itself and an
error log. The log could be held in the Mac OS X logs and be reached by a
menu. 

PM 5.0.1 | OS X 10.3.4 | Powerbook G4/400 | 768 MB RAM | 30 GB HD







AOL Communicator

2004-07-28 Thread A-NO-NE Music



When I receive a mail from AOL Communicator user, it comes as HTML
attachment, while AppleMail seems to be able to receive it as HTML
message instead of attachment.

When and how PM decides the message is as HTML attachment?


-- 

- Hiro

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Spin-up of HDs when switching user environment

2004-07-28 Thread Christian Roth

Hi,

does anyone know why switching user environments by double clicking a
file of the new environment causes all attached harddisks to the machine
to spin-up when they had been spundown? This is even when the environment
is on the same, running disk as the old one.

As it is, it takes roughly 10 to 15 seconds to switch environments
because that only happens when all attached HDs are back to operation.

Is there a way to avoid this? Is this an OS issue (what calls are made by
PM at switching environments that might cause the OS to have to read/
write from all attached disks)?

Thanks for any hints on how to avoid this.

Regards, Christian.





Re: Spam not evaluated

2004-07-28 Thread Jeremy Hughes

6063

Apologies if this annoying reply reaches the list - MailSword seems to be
blocking me from receiving any messages :(

Jeremy

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (18/7/04 10:10 pm) said:


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Spam not evaluated


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So how 'bout that Recent Window keystroke?

2004-07-28 Thread Zeph Bender

Forgetting for a moment my ongoing issue with at least one user's
inability to launch PDFs directly when received via PM; surely the
techies at CTM have some idea why some of us here are unable to use the
Cmd-Ctrl-R keystroke to bring up the Recent Mail window?  All the other
Cmd-Ctrl-x keystrokes work fine...  Very annoying.

z






Re: Odd email from (possibly) PM discussions

2004-07-28 Thread Jeremy Hughes

I got the same strange email, and I haven't received any messages from
powermail-discuss for the last two days.

Jeremy





Re: Euro Character

2004-07-28 Thread Damienn

4156

From [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun,
18 Jul 2004 21:29:57 +0019 [23.10 CET]


Re: Your email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Votre r?ponse devra ?tre faite dans les 15 jours, sans quoi votre
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Euro Character


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Re: Resource not available exposes long-standing Powermail bug

2004-07-28 Thread Ben Kennedy

On 17 7 2004 at 9:20 am -0400, computer artwork by subhash wrote:

What is the problem with double clicks on URLs? That is standard and usual.

Standard where?  Off the top of my head I can't think of another app that
does that (short of a web browser of course).  On the other hand, cmd-
click has been a convention for many years.  As Mikael pointed out,
virtually every text editing interface imaginable conventionally uses
double-click as a word-selection mechanism.  Indeed, that's why many of
us find the PM URL behaviour so irritating.

-ben

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Re: Odd email from (possibly) PM discussions

2004-07-28 Thread Ben Kennedy

On 18 7 2004 at 4:45 pm -0400, Rick Lecoat wrote:

 But this one seems to
have come from CTM themselves which makes me wonder what is going on
Examination of the full headers of the email do mention Perroulaz, but my
knowledge of email headers is such that I don't know what to infer from
this fact. Anyone have any ideas?

The first (well, the last, from top-to-bottom) Received header is:

Received: from unknown (HELO out.websud.ch)
([EMAIL PROTECTED]@82.146.198.18)
  by srv2-8.ip-tech.ch with SMTP; 18 Jul 2004 19:52:18 -

which I would take to be Marc Perroulaz.  Looking at prior messages from
CTM folk, their first hop has usually been mail.ctmdev.com, which doesn't
appear in any of those headers.  I would safely conclude the message came
from Perroulaz's annoyingly misconfigured software.

-ben

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Multiple accounts

2004-07-28 Thread Midi Cox

Something very strange has happened in PowerMail 5.0.1 this weekend. My
.Mac account is the primary one I use, but I have 3 others (including the
one provided by my ISP). Until this weekend, I would compose email in the
other 3 account (although rarely the one from the ISP) and click send and
off it went. Now, only the .mac mail is sent with the send. To send any
other email, I need to quit PowerMail, getting the do you really want to
quit you are connected message and restart; then the email was sent at
first, but now, only the email from my ISP will be sent and 2 other
accounts sits waiting. 

Several others have been using my computer the last few days and I
wondered if there was some keys they hit that created some preference,
although I have searched everywhere and cannot find anything. I can still
send from .Mac without a problem. 

Midi





Re: Odd email from (possibly) PM discussions

2004-07-28 Thread Damienn

From Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, 18 Jul 2004 21:45:26
+0100 [22.45 CET]

Any comments welcome.

I also received such a MailSword-generated email. Just visited
www.mailsword.com to find out what this is about. Well, I'm not very
impressed and that's because of two considerations:

1) Quote from the above website:
Before delivering message to your mailbox MailSword system politely
replies (with verification request) to an unknown sender to manually
verify his intent to deliver the message to you.

This approach breaks the golden rule: Never reply to spam!
(Why? - Because a reply to spam is likely to generate even more spam, as
you confirm the validity of your email address.)
My way of handling spam is silence. No reply, no reaction. Just a quick
glance at it to make sure that I don't delete the one valid message of
thousands of spam, and then I let it go into the void, where the minds of
spammers are.

2) Another quote from that website:
MailSword software is installed on the same machine that is used as an
email client (end user computer) for individual users...

If the MailSword software could communicate with the mail server _before_
downloading mail to the user's hard drive, we could talk about saved
bandwidth. But as the user still have to download all messages, it's not
the case. True, spam won't make it all the way to the user's email
client, as the MailSword software stands between the mail server and the
email client, but whether it is worth $39.95 to keep track of filtered
mail flagged as spam by the MailSword software or by PowerMail's
filtering capabilities (with the possible added aid of SpamSieve) is
everyone's decision to make.

-- Damienn
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Re: Resource not available exposes long-standing Powermail bug

2004-07-28 Thread Lane Roathe

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on Sun, Jul 18, 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] may have said:


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Votre réponse devra être faite dans les 15 jours, sans quoi votre
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re(2): Resource not available exposes long-standing Powermail bug


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Re: Thanks! EMA exporter

2004-07-28 Thread Michael Lewis

Mikael Byström sez:

I don't really understand why you would like them in the EMA
database (except as a backup of course), when they could all be at your
fingertips any time without having to fire up FM separately.

Since upgrading my system, this has been less of an issue, but at one
time trying to keep massive numbers of messages within my email program
slowed it down. Since I accessed the majority of mail I saved very rarely
anyway, it was better to trim things down every two to three months,
keeping perhaps the last 5-6 months of mail in the mail program itself.
The FM Pro database I was using made a much better archiver, anyway, and,
until PM recently changed it's search engine, did better searches over
that large a database anyway.

Plus,you write having to fire up FM separately like it takes a massive
amount of time to do so. :) Click on the database, a couple dockbar
bounces, and the database is ready for searches. Boom. The wait is, at
most, a couple or three seconds. I fritter away more than that when I
fall asleep at the keyboard each afternoon. :)

--
Michael Lewis
Off Balance Production
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.offbalance.com





Spam protection messages are spam!!!!!!!!

2004-07-28 Thread Mikael Byström

I really think the recent MailSword generated message replies, that I'm
sure more subscribers to this list have received, are to be considered as
spam and dealt with accordingly. This goes for all of the similar services.

Obviusly the offender is the service user that forgets to exempt hie/hers
mailing lists.

 

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