Re: PM support for 'threaded viewing'?

[Urs Gruetzner]

>
>What I REALLY would like to have - and am still astonished at the lack of
>voices on this subject - is to have the RECENT mail window integrated in
>the Mail Browser. 

This indeed I would love too (as well as the threading)

Urs

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[Barbara Needham]

ff-musikbüro on 12/27/04 said

>unfortunately that doesn't work for me. I need a skript that puts the
>just written message to the status of "waiting message", while i have not
>yet pushed the "Send" button, because that would make Powermail try to
>send the message immediately, which doesn't work. As I also write eMails
>in my other accounts, which I can actually send right away, I do not want
>to leave them in the out basket until the program connects automatically
>(sometimes I exchange mails almost like a discussion with somebody). So I
>need this script, that connects only to my one server (PROFOLK), tries to
>receive, wahtever is there or not, and then sends the waiting message.
>
>Would be great, if there was sucha script!

Of writing such a script I have no idea, but I had an app [on Windows]
that would "check pop before smtp" which somehow checked in to my pop
server without retrieving any new mail. So.. a script that retrieves zero
messages? Perhaps?

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Barbara Needham

Re(2): PM support for 'threaded viewing'?

[Marlyse Comte]

I have somewhat the same viewpoint as Wayne B. and some others. At a few
occasions it would be nice but I don't really need it as I sort and read
by date received. Usually that is plenty for me. Those few times I did
wish it was threaded are maybe 10x over the span of several years.

What I REALLY would like to have - and am still astonished at the lack of
voices on this subject - is to have the RECENT mail window integrated in
the Mail Browser. I am quite tired of having a separate list window open
next to the recent window and then it's just a drag to having always
double-click on a folder in the folder list to get to mail within. So
it's either having the Mail Browser constantly open with the Recent Mail
window over it (which means again that one window gets into the way of
the other) or continue doing what I am doing with the 2 separate windows.
(So much for going off topic on this thread).

---marlyse

Re: PM support for 'threaded viewing'?

[Derry Thompson]

listes at [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on 27/12/04 11:24 am

>Well, I just counted all persons reacting to the idea of threading on
>this forum for the last 15 months.

I like the idea of having threading in PowerMail. It would be useful on
occasion. 

The lack of it isn't a deal breaker though. I shan't be switching because
it isn't available, however nice it would be to have it. 

Cheers

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Re: PM support for 'threaded viewing'?

[Wayne Brissette]

> Wayne Brissette (which post was
>neither positive not negative).

Mine was neutral, I simply had a talk with Cricket, who developed major
parts of Mail.app, who explained to me why he found it hard to have a
real threaded environment, and had to work on a lot of guesses (and they
aren't always right).

I read mail as it comes in (and tend to skim more often these days), so
threading is not a priority for me personally. The one place I do have
threading (newsgroups with Hogwasher), I rarely find it totally useful,
but that in part has to do with the way usenet works, rather than the
functionality of threading. 

I can see why people want it, but then I can also see why don't want it.
Basically I remain neutral.

Wayne

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[ff-musikbüro]

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>ff-musikbüro wrote:
>
>>I need a script, that makes Powermail (still using 4.2.1) automatically
>>receive and send messages, and if possible, but not necesary, only for
>>one account!
>
>You can set your schedules to send mail automatically when retrieving
>mail, instead of immediately when queued.

This is not, what I really want. I really only want to send the message
to that special server (Strato, Germany), which is used by a non-profit
charitable association, that I work for half-time. All the other servers
I am using for my "real" work can accept to send messages at any time! I
found out, that receiving mail so often is not really useful and always
keeps you away from your actual work.
>
>If you want an AppleScript, you can do something like this:
>tell application "PowerMail"
>  send waiting messages
>  connect to account "Account name"
>end tell

unfortunately that doesn't work for me. I need a skript that puts the
just written message to the status of "waiting message", while i have not
yet pushed the "Send" button, because that would make Powermail try to
send the message immediately, which doesn't work. As I also write eMails
in my other accounts, which I can actually send right away, I do not want
to leave them in the out basket until the program connects automatically
(sometimes I exchange mails almost like a discussion with somebody). So I
need this script, that connects only to my one server (PROFOLK), tries to
receive, wahtever is there or not, and then sends the waiting message.

Would be great, if there was sucha script!

happy season


Florian Fürst

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Re: PM support for 'threaded viewing'?

[listes]

Mirko Kranenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I would too! As a matter of fact, I am already using Mail on my Cube.

Well, I just counted all persons reacting to the idea of threading on
this forum for the last 15 months.

On this very thread, we are seven, of which two declare threading of no
use. The five of us interested are you (Mirko), Alexander Balakersky,
Shane Stanley, Sean McBride (the OP) and me.
During the past year, there were three discussions where threading was
advocated; additional interested people were Jean de Crombrugghe, Mikael
Byström, Barbara Needham, and maybe Wayne Brissette (which post was
neither positive not negative).

This totals to nine persons off this list, which is probably read by a
couple of hundred people (I counted 140 different addresses in the
"interesting posts" I keep from the same period of time).

Ten out of two hundred is, well, 5% of PM users, maybe even less since
users not on this maillist could well be less demanding users.

This is why, although frenetically supportive for threading here, I
switched to MacSoup for list handling.

Indeed, I am quite sensitive to the idea that maillists are closer to
usenet groups than to mail. For this very reason many usenet newsreaders
propose to handle mail too, in a seamless way, and indeed the kind of
info handled in maillists is quite the same as in usenet newsgroups,
much more at least than in "personal" mails...



What is now of interest, at least for me, is the becoming of info
sharing with new developing tools such as wikis, blogs and RSS.
I noticed recently for the first time a poster asking "my RSS newsreader
doesn't show usenet groups, why?" -something almost nobody would have
expected, and even understood, just one year ago :-)
Also, before selecting my own RSS newsreader I tried to list them: on
the mac platform only, there are more than twenty dedicated
applications, this not counting the RSS-enabled browsers and a large
variety of docklings and tickers*. As many as the mailreader apps on
mac, and maybe four times the number of usenet newsreaders. I even found
some of them mimicking completely... a mail client interface
(PulpFiction and MacFreePOPs)

It may well be that the next threading-capable application on the mac
platform will be built around an RSS newsreader ;-)


Hervé

(*) FWIW, my list is on


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Re: PM support for 'threaded viewing'?

[Mirko Kranenburg]

I would too! As a matter of fact, I am already using Mail on my Cube.

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Alexander Balakersky wrote on Mon, 27 Dec 2004 00:46:38 -0500:

>So would I.
>
>-- 
>Alexander Balakersky
>
>>On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 15:44:00 -0500, Sean McBride wrote:
>>
>>>Are there really so few of us that want threading?
>>
>>I'd love it. It's one of the main reasons why I'm considering moving on
>>from PM...
>>
>>-- 
>>Shane Stanley  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

Re(2): PM support for 'threaded viewing'?

[Alexander Balakersky]

So would I.

-- 
Alexander Balakersky

>On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 15:44:00 -0500, Sean McBride wrote:
>
>>Are there really so few of us that want threading?
>
>I'd love it. It's one of the main reasons why I'm considering moving on
>from PM...
>
>-- 
>Shane Stanley  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>

Re: PM support for 'threaded viewing'?

[Shane Stanley]

On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 15:44:00 -0500, Sean McBride wrote:

>Are there really so few of us that want threading?

I'd love it. It's one of the main reasons why I'm considering moving on
from PM...

-- 
Shane Stanley  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>