Re(2): PM 5 - database corrupted, no recovery? [u]

2005-01-26 Thread Olaf Drümmer

Hi Steve,

thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Wed, 26 Jan 2005 12:18:04 -0500

In the end it came down to an issue of 
stability.  Mail has it, PM doesn't.  

did you verify? The various experiences in our company showed durign the
past few years that many email clients begin to suffer from stability
problems, at least once the amount of emails/data reaches a certain size.
With Claris Emailer I hit the 1 GB barrier a few years ago (and actually
switched to PowerMail, kind of overnight...). Microsoft products are a
non-option to me (they are simply too flakey too often). Eudora was a
nightmare on Mac last time I checked. 

Anyone tried Apple Mail long enought to accumulate hundreds of thousands
of emails? And still see smooth behavior? And what about searching (a
huge plus in PM)?

At least that is my experience, 
although Jerome of CTM Dev certainly tried to help.

By now I think if CTM could add maximum stability to PowerMail they'd
have an email client that significantly differentiates itself from any
other client.

Olaf





Re: why does mark as unread delete answered info? [u]

2005-01-26 Thread Rick Lecoat

Agreed. If it's replied to, it should be marked as replied to, end of
story. If it's later remarked as unread, fine; it should then show up as
unread AND replied to. It is obviously NOT impossible for a message to be
both unread and replied to, as it is possible remark messages as unread.

There are only two reasons that I remark things as unread, generally:
1)  So that I can clear out mail from the Recent Mail Window that I've
already glanced at (or that is spam and thus pre-marked as read) whilst
leaving some read messages in there for later attention.

2)  As a way of 'Flagging' messages (that have been auto filed into
folders) for later attention because I know that they are not going to be
in the RMW indefinitely -- it only takes one restart of PM (eg. I install
some software that requires a re-log-in) to clear that window.

Being able to SELECTIVELY delete mail from the RMW would solve the first
problem.

Also, being able to flag messages would be very helpful to me. I know
this issue has come up before and many people claimed to have no use for
it, but I would find it a great bonus.

Actually, this is what I would REALLY like:
1.  The ability to flag messages.
2.  For the recent Mail window to have a 'Remove Selected Messages' button.
3.  For the Mail Browser to have 3 tabs: Normal browser, Recent Mail, and
Flagged.

I know Marlyse has, with myself, long been in favour of integrating the
RMW into the browser as a tab, but having all flagged messages show up
(wherever they are filed) in a *third* tab would really put the icing on
the cake for me.

Any thoughts, folks?
Rick

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G5 2GHz x2  ::  2GB RAM  ::  10.3.6  ::  PM 5.1  ::  3 pane mode

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Original message:
Received from Mikael Byström on 25/1/05 at 9:08 am

If you change it to unread, it does make sense for the message to not be
shown as replied in the status column.
It NEVER makes sense not to show a replied (and sent) message as not
replied to. If it has been replied to it has been replied to, period.
What situations were you thinking of where it would be appropriate to
change this to not reflect things as they actually were made?
PM 5.1 | OS X 10.3.6 | Powerbook G4/400 | 768 MB RAM | 30 GB HD





Re: Powermail does not scroll with mouse [u]

2005-01-26 Thread Rick Lecoat

Yes, I've never found it possible to scroll an HTML message using the
mouse scroll wheel (Logitech wired optical mouse). Ever since PM5, this
disfunction has carried over to non-HTML messages if there is an HTML
message open in any window.
Eg. I have an HTML message on display in the Recent Mail Window, and a
normal message on display in the 3-pane browser. As long as the HTML one
is showing (even if it's hidden by other windows), the plain text one
won't scroll using the scroll wheel.

Irksome, but not cripplingly so.
Hope this helps;

Rick

-- 
G5 2GHz x2  ::  2GB RAM  ::  10.3.6  ::  PM 5.1  ::  3 pane mode

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Original message:
Received from Dr Dave on 26/1/05 at 9:06 am

Try closing any message window displaying a html message, even if it's in
the background. That works for me, and I can scroll again. 





Re: Powermail does not scroll with mouse [u]

2005-01-26 Thread Dr Dave

Try closing any message window displaying a html message, even if it's in
the background. That works for me, and I can scroll again. 

Hope this helps.

Best,
 Dave Nathanson
 Mac Medix
in reply to ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Urs Gruetzner's message of 6:34 AM, 1/23/05

Urs Gruetzner wrote:

However PM 5.1 behaves very quirky: sometimes scrolling works as
expected, sometimes scrolling has a dreadful delay, sometimes it scrolls
not at all, there is no rule recognizable which behavior is about to prefer


What is the experience of other users with mice with a scroll wheel or pad?

Funnily, I just had a similar issue a short time ago. It did only happen
on the message pane, not the message list pane (I'm in three-pane mode).
Finally, restarting my Mac solved it. I was trying out some software at
that time, so maybe one of those had an effect. So it might well be not a
PowerMail specific issue, but more a system issue.

If I get this again, I'll see if I can determine the cause.

One other thing comes to mind: You say you were using a cordless mouse -
are you sure that the battery is still ok? When I get jerky mouse
movements with my cordless mouse, it's usually that the battery is
drained. Moving the receiver nearer to the mouse (or changing the
batteries :-)) solves the issue. However, I have found that cordless mice
(at least mine - a Logitech one) do not have the same smooth movement
(esp. diagonally) than cable-bound mice (e.g. USB), so I'm not using them
anylonger for my day-to-dy work.



You were right, a new start brought the scrolling back. The V500 from
Logitech is some days old, so the battery was no issue. The movement of
this mouse BTW is smooth and ok for me.

Thanks 

Urs 








Re: Feature request - hotkeys to folders [u]

2005-01-26 Thread Neil Hughes

On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 15:24:55 -0500, A-NO-NE Music wrote:

I might add:
I'd love to have a context menu for 'move message to' a folder.


Ooo..yes please! Like in the Outlook Mac 2001 client that I've been using
recently to move mail to the Inboxwhile transferring all my old work-
related mail from Exchange Server to PowerMail ;-)

Neil
(PowerMail 4.2.1, OS X 10.3.6, iBook G3 800MHz 640MB)





Re: why does mark as unread delete answered info? [u]

2005-01-26 Thread Mikael Byström

fk said:

If you change it to unread, it does make sense for the message to not be
shown as replied in the status column.
It NEVER makes sense not to show a replied (and sent) message as not
replied to. If it has been replied to it has been replied to, period.
What situations were you thinking of where it would be appropriate to
change this to not reflect things as they actually were made? 
PM 5.1 | OS X 10.3.6 | Powerbook G4/400 | 768 MB RAM | 30 GB HD