Re: Database issues

2008-05-15 Thread MB
CTM info sa såhär:

Afterwards, the one file that you can safely delete is Message Database
index and then try rebuilding this.


Wait a minute. Didn't you say earlier in another conversation that
deleting the Message Database index file and rebuilding a new one from
scratch will not result in a complete search index? Please clarify, as I
have had tremendous problems with my indexes for years after deleteing
that file a couple of times.

Lately, though rebuilding seems to have finally resulted in a usable
index, but I'm not sure what I did and would like to know. As most
likely many others would as well.


Mikael

Technoids:
PM 5.6.3 build 4504 sv / SpamSieve 2.6.6 sv | OS X 10.4.8 | Powerbook
G4/400 | 1GB / 80GB




Re: Database issues

2008-05-15 Thread Derry Thompson
Hi,


Am/On Wed, 14 May 2008 15:59:43 +0100 schrieb/wrote Derry Thompson:

I've tried a low-level rebuild, a database compact both of which failed.

this has always worked for me in the worst case.


I can't copy the mail database, it gets to 1.04 GB of 1.64GB and fails.

this sounds like a disk issue.

This hard drives was brand new in Jan 2008.  No issues with the drive
that I can see.

Did you check your disk with disk utilities?

Mayne :)

Can you copy it on the terminal level - probably not, if the Finder won't do.

No, doesn't copy any which way.

I'll try an export of the entire database later (I'll run it overnight)
and see if that works.

this will probably also fail.

For the worst case there is a special recovery utility for the PowerMail
database:
http://www.zygoat.ca/products/pmsalvage/

That doesn't work with the newer database format though.


Powermail seems to be working ok on the damaged database, albeit without
any search capability.

Any other ideas?

got a backup?

Yep :)

Cheers


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Re: Database issues

2008-05-15 Thread Jeremy Hughes
Derry Thompson (14/5/08, 15:59) said:

I've tried a low-level rebuild, a database compact both of which failed.

What version of PowerMail are you using?

According to the ctmdev web site:

Low-level rebuild was broken after the 5.6.2 porting to XCode 3.0 -
this was apparently fixed in 5.6.3 or 5.6.4 (not sure which).

Jeremy




Re(2): Database issues

2008-05-15 Thread Jan M.J. Storms
You can also try to export parts of your database in Powermail format.
For the part that cannot be exported, try Powermail Salvage.

Before you restore your email, backup all your files and clean up your
drive: file system and possibly hardware errors.

Jan




powermail-discuss Digest #2829 - 05/15/08

2008-05-15 Thread PowerMail discussions
powermail-discuss Digest #2829 - Thursday, May 15, 2008

  Database issues
  by Derry Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Re: Database issues
  by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Re: Database issues
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  Re: Database issues
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  Re: Database issues
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Subject: Database issues
From: Derry Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 15:59:43 +0100

Hi,


My MacBook locked up ealier today and had to force a restart.

PowerMail said it needed to reindex the mail. It got nearly to the end
then froze up.

I've tried a low-level rebuild, a database compact both of which failed.

I can't copy the mail database, it gets to 1.04 GB of 1.64GB and fails.

I'll try an export of the entire database later (I'll run it overnight)
and see if that works.

Powermail seems to be working ok on the damaged database, albeit without
any search capability.

Any other ideas?

Cheers

--
Derry



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Subject: Re: Database issues
From: Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 08:55:44 +0900

Hello,

Am/On Wed, 14 May 2008 15:59:43 +0100 schrieb/wrote Derry Thompson:

I've tried a low-level rebuild, a database compact both of which failed.

this has always worked for me in the worst case.


I can't copy the mail database, it gets to 1.04 GB of 1.64GB and fails.

this sounds like a disk issue.
Did you check your disk with disk utilities?
Can you copy it on the terminal level - probably not, if the Finder won't do.


I'll try an export of the entire database later (I'll run it overnight)
and see if that works.

this will probably also fail.

For the worst case there is a special recovery utility for the PowerMail
database:
http://www.zygoat.ca/products/pmsalvage/


Powermail seems to be working ok on the damaged database, albeit without
any search capability.

Any other ideas?

got a backup?

cheers,

Matthias


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Subject: Re: Database issues
From: CTM info [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 07:26:24 +0200

Derry,

Doesn't sound too good. Inability to copy the mail database indicates a
file-system level problem, first make a backup and then try Disk Utility !

Afterwards, the one file that you can safely delete is Message Database
index and then try rebuilding this.

jean michel/ctm qa

On Wed, 14 May 2008 15:59:43 +0100, Derry Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,


My MacBook locked up ealier today and had to force a restart.

PowerMail said it needed to reindex the mail. It got nearly to the end
then froze up.

I've tried a low-level rebuild, a database compact both of which failed.

I can't copy the mail database, it gets to 1.04 GB of 1.64GB and fails.

I'll try an export of the entire database later (I'll run it overnight)
and see if that works.

Powermail seems to be working ok on the damaged database, albeit without
any search capability.

Any other ideas?

Cheers

--
Derry






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Subject: Re: Database issues
From: MB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 11:15:28 +0200

CTM info sa såhär:

Afterwards, the one file that you can safely delete is Message Database
index and then try rebuilding this.


Wait a minute. Didn't you say earlier in another conversation that
deleting the Message Database index file and rebuilding a new one from
scratch will not result in a complete search index? Please clarify, as I
have had tremendous problems with my indexes for years after deleteing
that file a couple of times.

Lately, though rebuilding seems to have finally resulted in a usable
index, but I'm not sure what I did and would like to know. As most
likely many others would as well.


Mikael

Technoids:
PM 5.6.3 build 4504 sv / SpamSieve 2.6.6 sv | OS X 10.4.8 | Powerbook
G4/400 | 1GB / 80GB


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Subject: Re: Database issues
From: Derry Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 08:56:10 +0100

Hi,


Am/On Wed, 14 May 2008 15:59:43 +0100 schrieb/wrote Derry Thompson:

I've tried a low-level rebuild, a database compact both of which failed.

this has always worked for me in the worst case.


I can't copy the mail database, it gets to 1.04 GB of 1.64GB and fails.

this sounds like a disk issue.

This hard drives was brand new in Jan 2008.  No issues with the drive
that I can see.

Did you check your disk with disk utilities?

Mayne :)

Can you copy it on the terminal level - probably not, if the Finder won't do.

No, doesn't copy any which way.

I'll try an export of the entire database later (I'll run it overnight)
and see if that works.

this will probably also fail.

For the worst case there is a special recovery utility for the