Re: sent messages with IMAP
Beatrix Willius wrote on 11/21/10 at 9:11 PM: >No, Sent messages should show up on every client. And really don't do >Gmail with IMAP. Their IMAP implementation is weird. Besides with Gmail >there isn't a big difference between IMAP and POP. You are correct. I just figure out that in PM if you expland the [Gmail] folder, the Gmail Sent folder is there. I don't know anything about Gmail's IMAP implementation. But regarding Gmail, it's free and it gives you lots of storage. Regarding IMAP, I want to be able to access my mail from multiple devices. Those are the reasons I'm trying to switch. > >On 21.11.2010, at 03:19, H.R. Riggs wrote: > >> I'm trying to figure out IMAP and it seems that the following is true. >> >> Let's say I sent a message from PM using the IMAP account. The message >> shows up in my Sent message folder on PM. It also shows up in my Sent >> message folder in the IMAP account (in this case, Gmail). But it doesn't >> look like the client sees that folder. So, e.g., if I go to another >> machine and use an email client, whether it be PM, or Outlook or Mail, I >> won't see that sent message. Is that correct? > >Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards > >Trixi Willius > >http://www.mothsoftware.com >Mail Archiver X: archive, clean and search email >http://www.beatrixwillius.de >Fractals, 3d landscapes etc. > >
powermail-discuss Digest #2902 - 11/21/10
powermail-discuss Digest #2902 - Sunday, November 21, 2010 migrating to IMAP by "H.R. Riggs" Re: backup strategies by "Bob Parks" sent messages with IMAP by "H.R. Riggs" Re: sent messages with IMAP by "Beatrix Willius" Re: migrating to IMAP by "Beatrix Willius" Re: sent messages with IMAP by "H.R. Riggs" -- Subject: migrating to IMAP From: "H.R. Riggs" Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 08:56:23 -1000 Is there an easy way to migrate to IMAP? That is, to get all my messages from my desktop machine (that I've collected over the years using POP) onto the IMAP account (gmail), with all the many, many folders? Thanks. Ron -- Subject: Re: backup strategies From: "Bob Parks" Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:53:56 -0800 >Subject: backup strategies >From: "Bill Schjelderup" >Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:41:11 -0700 > lots of stuff snipped.. >Although I'm a big fan of Crashplan, I recently migrated the business backups to CrashPlan Pro, and have been extremely happy with both the software and their support. Bob * * Bob Parks In theory, there is no difference * * b...@kidsource.com between theory and practice. * * pa...@alum.mit.edu * * http://www.kidsource.com/ In practice, this is rarely the case. * * -- Subject: sent messages with IMAP From: "H.R. Riggs" Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 16:19:43 -1000 I'm trying to figure out IMAP and it seems that the following is true. Let's say I sent a message from PM using the IMAP account. The message shows up in my Sent message folder on PM. It also shows up in my Sent message folder in the IMAP account (in this case, Gmail). But it doesn't look like the client sees that folder. So, e.g., if I go to another machine and use an email client, whether it be PM, or Outlook or Mail, I won't see that sent message. Is that correct? TIA. Ron -- Subject: Re: sent messages with IMAP From: "Beatrix Willius" Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 08:11:49 +0100 No, Sent messages should show up on every client. And really don't do Gmail with IMAP. Their IMAP implementation is weird. Besides with Gmail there isn't a big difference between IMAP and POP. On 21.11.2010, at 03:19, H.R. Riggs wrote: > I'm trying to figure out IMAP and it seems that the following is true. > > Let's say I sent a message from PM using the IMAP account. The message > shows up in my Sent message folder on PM. It also shows up in my Sent > message folder in the IMAP account (in this case, Gmail). But it doesn't > look like the client sees that folder. So, e.g., if I go to another > machine and use an email client, whether it be PM, or Outlook or Mail, I > won't see that sent message. Is that correct? Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards Trixi Willius http://www.mothsoftware.com Mail Archiver X: archive, clean and search email http://www.beatrixwillius.de Fractals, 3d landscapes etc. -- Subject: Re: migrating to IMAP From: "Beatrix Willius" Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 08:12:00 +0100 Hi H.R., haven't tried it for IMAP but in general the tool is good: http://www.weirdkid.com/products/emailchemy/index.html The problem will be the odd 2 GB limit of PM. On 20.11.2010, at 19:56, H.R. Riggs wrote: > Is there an easy way to migrate to IMAP? That is, to get all my messages > from my desktop machine (that I've collected over the years using POP) > onto the IMAP account (gmail), with all the many, many folders? Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards Trixi Willius http://www.mothsoftware.com Mail Archiver X: archive, clean and search email http://www.beatrixwillius.de Fractals, 3d landscapes etc. -- Subject: Re: sent messages with IMAP From: "H.R. Riggs" Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:36:43 -1000 Beatrix Willius wrote on 11/21/10 at 9:11 PM: >No, Sent messages should show up on every client. And really don't do >Gmail with IMAP. Their IMAP implementation is weird. Besides with Gmail >there isn't a big difference between IMAP and POP. You are correct. I just figure out that in PM if you expland the [Gmail] folder, the Gmail Sent folder is there. I don't know anything about Gmail's IMAP implementation. But regarding Gmail, it's free and it gives you lots of storage. Regarding IMAP, I want to be able to access my mail from multiple devices. Those are the reasons I'm trying to switch. > >On 21.11.2010, at 03:19, H.
Re: migrating to IMAP
Beatrix Willius wrote on 11/21/10 at 9:12 PM: >Hi H.R., > >haven't tried it for IMAP but in general the tool is good: > >http://www.weirdkid.com/products/emailchemy/index.html This doesn't seem to work with Powermail. At least, PM is not an option. > >The problem will be the odd 2 GB limit of PM. > >On 20.11.2010, at 19:56, H.R. Riggs wrote: > >> Is there an easy way to migrate to IMAP? That is, to get all my messages >> from my desktop machine (that I've collected over the years using POP) >> onto the IMAP account (gmail), with all the many, many folders? > >Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards > >Trixi Willius > >http://www.mothsoftware.com >Mail Archiver X: archive, clean and search email >http://www.beatrixwillius.de >Fractals, 3d landscapes etc. > >
Earthlink/Powermail issues
I'm wondering if anyone can help me with this - I'm in the process of switching ISPs, from Earthlink to Charter, but was planning on keeping my Earthlink email address for a while to smooth the transition. Unfortunately, I don't seem to be able to connect to Earthlink's SMTP server when I'm a) using PowerMail, and b) using Charter as my ISP. I had noticed this before when travelling - I could receive email, but not send it. The workaround was to use Earthlink's web mail client to send emails, which was a pain, because I would forget the problem until I encountered an issue, then had to cut-and-paste from PowerMail to the browser. The weird wrinkle is that this seems to be a PowerMail issue. Witness this email, sent using Thunderbird, using Charter to connect to Earthlink's SMTP server. I've check, double-check, and triple-checked the SMTP settings in PowerMail, even cutting-and-pasting all settings from Thunderbird to PowerMail, but PowerMail simply won't connect to Earthlink's server. In fact, if I leave the password field blank in PowerMail, it never prompts me for the password, it simply times out attempting to send the message. I called Earthlink customer support, and true to form they simply told me that my only option when not using Earthlink as my ISP was to use the web mail client, as they are blocking "all wireless servers". Which is patent nonsense in addition to being wrong, since as I stated before, this email is being sent through my home wireless network, using Charter as the ISP. Hoping somebody's already found the solution, Evan Evanson PowerMail user since 2002
Re: Earthlink/Powermail issues
D'oh! Got it sorted out. Turns out there's a setting in Setup > Mail Scheduling & Locations that will over-ride your outgoing mail settings in every account, and that had erroneous authentication info. Thank you for allowing me to waste everyone's time. Evan Evanson On 11/21/10 15:18 , Evan Evanson wrote: I'm wondering if anyone can help me with this - I'm in the process of switching ISPs, from Earthlink to Charter, but was planning on keeping my Earthlink email address for a while to smooth the transition. Unfortunately, I don't seem to be able to connect to Earthlink's SMTP server when I'm a) using PowerMail, and b) using Charter as my ISP. I had noticed this before when travelling - I could receive email, but not send it. The workaround was to use Earthlink's web mail client to send emails, which was a pain, because I would forget the problem until I encountered an issue, then had to cut-and-paste from PowerMail to the browser. The weird wrinkle is that this seems to be a PowerMail issue. Witness this email, sent using Thunderbird, using Charter to connect to Earthlink's SMTP server. I've check, double-check, and triple-checked the SMTP settings in PowerMail, even cutting-and-pasting all settings from Thunderbird to PowerMail, but PowerMail simply won't connect to Earthlink's server. In fact, if I leave the password field blank in PowerMail, it never prompts me for the password, it simply times out attempting to send the message. I called Earthlink customer support, and true to form they simply told me that my only option when not using Earthlink as my ISP was to use the web mail client, as they are blocking "all wireless servers". Which is patent nonsense in addition to being wrong, since as I stated before, this email is being sent through my home wireless network, using Charter as the ISP. Hoping somebody's already found the solution, Evan Evanson PowerMail user since 2002
