Re: Data bug in forward messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/4/2007 9:09 AM, Mikael Byström wrote: This is what this shows (Swedish Translation): Vidareskickat brev Ämne: Re: Data bug in forward messages Skickat: måndag 28 maj 2007 12.31 Från: Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try a test. After reading this message, click the Forward button. You should notice some header information inserted into the message below a line of dashes. What do the dates show? - Slut vidareskickat brev - Another message: Vidareskickat brev Ämne: Re: filerna Skickat: torsdag 10 maj 2007 14.32 A third message: Vidareskickat brev Ämne: j_security_check 404 not found Skickat: tisdag 1 maj 2007 11.07 As you see the dates are not the same. Unfortunately, your tests are incomplete as they should show TWO dates for each message and you only show one. Perhaps it's a setting one can tweak? The goal, as I understood the original poster's problem, was to compare the two dates shown in the forwarded message and check whether they are the same. At any rate, I see the correct dates when I do it but to get back to the person's problem, I will show what I see when I get home and am at my Mac. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGZBxiuprXnyzF8jkRAp4iAKCWy8wWbyivslbvq7Ah10joROMuyQCgmwdy EBrzF1TUYizqmMIsCiUFPh4= =6JVU -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Data bug in forward messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/4/2007 10:41 AM, Rene Merz wrote: Here you have the proof of the problem: First line is SUBJECT Second Line is SENDING DATE AND TIME Third Line is RECEIVING DATE AND TIME But as I found out in the meantime, the _real_ bug is a small and conditional one: If the sending and receiving date are the same (as it is usualy the case) then (and only then!) it writes same date _and_ same time for sending and receiving. But there is no bug, if the two dates are different. Ah, that is a subtle one indeed. I will test this tonight, time permitting. What puzzles me is why Mikael Bystrom would only see *one* date line and not two? Like you, I have always seen two dates. Perhaps it's due to his localization of PowerMail? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGZCs+uprXnyzF8jkRAikEAKCOfnrMn5SBXzrjeA8fnZJs/0sj6ACeOiPg GH87+QCnAuwxpXfhRGufaLg= =DLt9 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: changing account on send
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/4/2007 1:07 PM, Marlyse Comte wrote: coming across a really weird bug : select account A for the email when composing. all good. click on send - puts it in the outbox (correctly) but while doing so, changes the from name to a different account (one which I do NOT want to use and have not selected and is nowhere set in the account prefs to be that for account A. basically it switches the identity from selected account A to account B while putting it into the outbox. anyone see this behavior? any simple remedy, next to deleting accounts and trying to re-setup? Never saw this myself. Might it be a long forgotten filter/script combo? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGZEmUuprXnyzF8jkRAtVMAJwOneoi3GzHg0meHv41uOox5zJvBACfQECH ZGQV/IYAnUQ8VDuRDvkechQ= =hv5/ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: PowerMail 2GB Limit
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 5/10/2007 6:09 AM, Jeremy Hughes wrote: ... or changed to be a limit on individual mailboxes (folders), then PowerMail's days are numbered as far as I am concerned. I think it's a shame too. Jeremy That is the approach of Thunderbird. Each *main* or parent folder has a limit of 4 GB. I don't know if that applies only to the parent account folder or each separate folder *outside* the Inbox but either way it's an improvement over a 2 GB limit for the whole database. I like it so much that I use T-Bird for most of my work email, leaving my Exchange server account strictly for calendar - Blackberry synchronization stuff and other related uses. Yes, it would be a shame. I've stuck with PowerMail on my Mac since the early days of version 3.x. As much as I like T-Bird on my PC, I've grown used to the PM interface and am loathe to switch unless presented with no alternative. BTW, I do agree that IMAP will continue to gain converts with its ability to maintain not only sent email but the very structure of one's email environment. The ability to look at one's email in precisely the same fashion regardless of where you are and which computer you are using is quite useful. The only problem is server space management. I don't say the above lightly as I have been and continue to be a big POP3 user. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGQzLVuprXnyzF8jkRAn1GAKClnLHioD9U/kNc7peTK4RKp4FidQCff/s6 vlH0jhLVDj5VeUK9eoPgs/s= =yjhj -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: the list vs the user base (wasRe: bug or feature ?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/25/2007 10:58 PM, Matthias Schmidt wrote: Am/On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:52:35 -0400 schrieb/wrote Winston Weinmann: A user forum does not have that problem, but of course does not push questions out to users. A forum also keeps a more readily available history, and provides a place for evolving FAQ answers. I have wondered why CTM used a list as it seems less flexible than a user forum. Forums are slow and have all that blinky pinky stuff. It is inconvenient it just s*cks. I definitely prefer a mailing list. But we have also an achive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powermail-discuss%40ctmdev.com/ Thanks and all the best Matthias It is true that a web based forum will never be as fast or as clean in the interface as a text based mailing list but... Forums are only as slow as the load originating from them and the speed of the receiving computer. I'm not sure what you mean by blinky pinky stuff (emoticons, ads, something else, all three?) but there are some very clean ones. I find the Mozilla forums to be relatively clean and quick. Forums can be easier to follow because of a richer interface. The sorted threads (by larger topic first, then individual threads second) allow for a user to find what he or she is seeking quite quickly. A sound choice of board or forum names plus thread topics will of course help. FAQs can be built up quickly by the community and maintained by a central authority with not too much effort. Forums are self documenting in that the forum *is* the archive. Forum software is now almost an off-the-shelf affair. Most forum packages come with decent search tools included. In conclusion, while I find the current mailing list technology fine for a topic as focused as PowerMail, it is wrong to brand all forums with a broad brush. It is also bad debating form to dismiss something because it just sucks. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGMKgvuprXnyzF8jkRAqmdAJ0SH6NTtPFqwFaDJ5cKSFedOo4kWgCgnwn3 8vsRlHCyDInBhd05oMd6DbQ= =V2ZN -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: locking PowerMail on download
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/2/2007 1:10 PM, Alan Harper wrote: I am getting emails, I think from Russia, that are causing PowerMail to lock up. I have not isolated the email in question--it will take some time fiddling with the web-interface and I haven't had time to do so. What I do right now is go to the web interface at my ISP and delete all the spam in my inbox and then it works again. Any thoughts about what might be causing this? Is this a general problem with email clients, or a PowerMail-only issue? I have seen this and similar behaviours from several clients. As far as I have been able to figure out, it is due primarily to malformed headers in the emails in question which are passed on blindly by your ISP to you. Your client then has to deal with them. What puzzles me is the fact that some clients seem to handle these issues better than others. Another possibility is that you have more than one client session going simultaneously. Not likely in your case as you state that it only seems to happen with emails from the .ru domain but I mention it for completeness' sake. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGETtDuprXnyzF8jkRAs/iAJ9xu7uYzTXEqDC1mGvaVkJCrVzPGACeM6ud khuLBWV+4iCir2hzYBq09JU= =DjRn -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: New Mac Finally
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 3/15/2007 2:31 PM, Anthony Sanna wrote: One more thing. If you manually reinstall everything, it is a really good chance to spring clean your environment. Migration Assistant will copy apps which you haven't used for years :-) This is true. I've done it both ways. The one semi-successful method that Apple has is the Archive Restore when reinstalling the OS from DVD. It will save everything from the Users folder on up, but apps that operate primarily at the root level, like Retrospect, Norton or Stuffit, need to be reinstalled from scratch. In some thorny trouble-shooting modes, I have intentionally worked from a clean slate and the original install CD's or disk images. It amounts to a weekend watching progress bars, however. I just did a G5 - Mac Pro, and was absolutely blown away at how seamless the process was. Tony Can one be selective about the apps to be migrated? I ask because I have some stuff such as FAXstf which I don't want moved; it replaced some of the system's FAXing capability. There are also some remnants of other apps that are part of the system startup routine, even though the apps themselves have long since been removed. Now-Up-to-Date is an example. Given those questions, my inclination is to migrate only the data. I hope to get a new iMac to replace my aging G4 (400 MHz AGP) and do NOT want any useless baggage to be transferred. PowerMail should not be a problem as long as my data folder is intact or would I need to re-apply the license key should I reinstall the application from scratch all while retaining my existing data folder? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF+ZUkuprXnyzF8jkRAmtDAJ9eLXkiDYFIL0BnTVtjXbMwYJRbxwCcCmOH AMpUlnSkSdN9J2clSfeD0lY= =85WD -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Multiple databases (yet again)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 1/30/2007 3:00 PM, Marlyse Comte wrote: Searching large database has always been DevonThink's strength and this is now 99% perfect for me. The 1% missing is that attachments will not be imported nor linked, so you need to remember to remove them manually from PowerMail Attachment folder before trashing archived messages. And yeah, there are no links in the email which tell you which file was attached (oddly enough I have seen some iCal attachments make it through). I don't know if they will add some virtual linking or such in later versions. ---marlyse According to their website, attachments are sucked in with the mail. Maybe that particular feature doesn't work too well with PowerMail but the docs certainly imply that it does: See the following review by Charles Moore: http://www.applelinks.com/index.php/more/charles_moore_reviews_devonthink_professional_office_13b1/ More info: http://www.macmegasite.com/node/3301 NOTE: I neither work for nor use DevonThink. I do, however, consider it worth exploring and just might buy it in the future should my email needs become as severe as some here. Then again, I could start using Thunderbird, which has a 4 GB limit per parent folder. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFv7I/uprXnyzF8jkRAq7rAJ9Edno88dWhJhojKQgSO90tDfR6wgCeNwj6 GrOMJhacQybcvBL3iA9gnZU= =NR39 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: little orange and yellow dots
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/6/2006 3:31 PM, Pat O'Halloran wrote: It appears that on 6/12/06 at 19:58 Bruce Barrett spake thus: Hi, And now for something completely picky... As I edit new emails, especially longer ones (say, starting with a large amount of pasted text) little dots appear at the far left of the text input area, just before or touching the 1st text column. -- here :-) Sometimes 1 dot, sometimes 2. Looks like kind of like debugging info. They disappear if you resize the window. How come? Bruce I don't know but they've been there for years and through many versions. I posted to the list about them some time ago. Cheers What you are seeing is most likely the symbol used to indicate the text to which you are replying. I don't get dots, rather I get chevrons or in other packages, solid lines or bars. The reason some might disappear is that by resizing the window, you are changing the wrap point, most likely. As an example, my copy of T-Bird shows your example text with a solid bar as the quote character, while in this reply, it has been converted to a series of chevrons. Other than that, I can't imagine what you are seeing. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFdzRFuprXnyzF8jkRApHyAJ9cs7Umtz3w/ScOfyY6vxDZoRvcGQCgmRRl S4MaSM6D8qe2eZq7pM94V/Q= =L0Li -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Message priority
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/27/2006 3:53 PM, PowerMail Engineering wrote: Wayne Brissette wrote: You would have to save it as a draft, then apply the script. The script would have to be responsible for sending the message, because you're absolutely correct, filters don't get run until after they are sent. Since some time (PowerMail 5.0 maybe), outgoing filters are applied before sending, so they can change the account, add a BCC recipient and other useful things. Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering Does this mean I can associate a particular signature with a given recipient in the To: field? (assuming only one To: recipient) As a rather trivial example, when I post to this mailing list from my home mac (I'm at work right now using a Windoze machine) I normally use a signature which contains my system stats, including PowerMail version. As one might expect, I don't always remember to do this. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFGuYSuprXnyzF8jkRAlLoAJ9WWEDgMWetrEIDkJz+tH9rIN4GNQCfQenQ MmEjyJJokvy6apXFS1mAH0E= =nxGh -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: total DB breakdown and asian font rendering - nailed it (resent)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthias Schmidt wrote: the message did appear already some time ago. Jérôme was asking you to send him that message to jerome at ctmdev dot com. I have the impression you have a serious problem with your mail-server or your mail-setup and not with PM itself. Maybe even a problem with your Mac? All the best Matthias Mathias, If, as you say, he has a problem with his ISP/setup, posting a reply to the list ONLY does him no good. According to the headers in your message, that is exactly what you did. Instead, why not 'cc' him on your reply? It's possible that the email problems are specific to a few domains, as was my case (see below). Did you forward him a copy later? When I was having similar problems, Jay very kindly forwarded on to me certain posts which were relevant to a discussion I started. In my case, the problems were definitely ISP related and temporary. I even got a $10.00 reduction for that month for missed email. :-) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE9ZgCuprXnyzF8jkRArNPAJ4zIUqzTYw/NtiwF7YyxQyt4pHrnACdFJmh yR2Ds9x7HvB+yv5nVBbLblg= =OqlI -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Sig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A-NO-NE Music wrote: Ouch! I forgot to use different sig for this list on my last post. This begs to a question. Is there any way to use specific sig per To automatically other than creating a forum specific email address? -Hiro Hi Hiro, As you might remember, I have been asking for that feature for going on a year now. I even wrote out the pseudocode / flowchart as to how it might work. I doubt I will get it. :-( -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE0MeEuprXnyzF8jkRAlG6AJ4tOm/1NNN8B97StR7CgpkvM4QVlACfTwgP 8wJrbH2/tlMV2J2+ew2fjG8= =tw3w -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Panics, Intel and PowerMail?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alan Harper wrote: I suspect that PowerMail is at the root of the problem, but can't be sure. I am also having the problem of PowerMail being unstable--often it crashes, and then often when it comes back, it needs to re-index files for 10-20 minutes before I can use it. The new system may have reduced the frequency of these crashes. I am not trying cast aspersions (yet), but wonder if others have seen similar issues on Macintel machines. A - From an email by Jerome of CTMDEV to the list from June 9: PowerMail is more unstable when running with Rosetta. We are working hard on a universal binary version of PowerMail; it's neither an easy or fun task, but we are progressing significantly. Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering Until they announce a Rosetta friendly version, I would indeed suspect PowerMail as one of the culprits. I also would hesitate to switch platforms without first switching email clients, even if only as a temporary measure. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEsmwAuprXnyzF8jkRAoSVAJ0RKclHSSTGkfBAhCvKG8C2eM0q5gCePfd3 ZPnyyfKhtOrvCQ+MoJGPtfI= =Tzl8 -END PGP SIGNATURE-