Re: Feature request: Reply to list command

2004-11-25 Thread Rene Merz

Am 25.11.2004 hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] geschrieben:

But if list daddies or moms are too lazy to format the list in a proper
way - why PM should do the work of them?

For the benefit of PM users?

I read several (good working) lists and have no need for.
Ask your list administrators to do a better job! ;-)





Re: Feature request: Reply to list command

2004-11-25 Thread Jeremy Hughes

Rene Merz (25/11/04 10:18 am) said:

If you install a directory, named ListName and a filter ListName who
identifies all ListName-mails and brings them to that directory - your
problem is solved. You just can reply to any ListName-mail and your mail
goes allways to the right (list-)address.

I filter list emails into separate directories. It has no effect on the
reply address.

But if list daddies or moms are too lazy to format the list in a proper
way - why PM should do the work of them?

For the benefit of PM users?

Jeremy







Re: Feature request: Reply to list command

2004-11-25 Thread Shane Stanley

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:22:26 +, Jeremy Hughes wrote:

What would be really nice IMO is a preference option so that any reply to
a list message is automatically directed to the list, regardless of
whether the reply-to header has been set to do this.

Right. Perhaps the answer is do be able to designate which addresses are
lists, and define a list-reply behavior that suits.

-- 
Shane Stanley  [EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: Feature request: Reply to list command

2004-11-23 Thread Sean McBride

Jeremy Hughes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on Tue, Nov 23, 2004 06:22 said:

However, the situation is that many lists (unlike this one) do not set
the reply-to header so that messages go back to the list. So regardless
of our personal preferences for list behaviour, it would be useful to
have a Reply to List option for when we have to deal with lists which
don't set the reply-to header. I know we can use Reply to All and delete
all the recipients except for the list, but it would be nice to have a
shortcut.

*Precisely* my point.  (My intention was never to debate reply to
munging!) It would allow a single command that behaves the same
regardless of how any given list mom has set up his list.  Being on many
lists, it is a pain to remember how each works.  It leads to user error
accidently replying incorrectly.  Preventing user error is a hallmark of
good UI design.

One more item in the Mail menu is no big deal, the toolbar is already
customisable, and Cmd-Opt-R is currently unused.  Its perfect. :)

--

Sean McBride, B. Eng [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mac Software Designer   Montréal, Québec, Canada






Re: Feature request: Reply to list command

2004-11-23 Thread Jeremy Hughes

Shane Stanley (22/11/04 7:10 am) said:

Many mailing lists (like this one) set the 'reply-to' header so that
messages go back to the list.  This is bad

... in some people's *opinion*.

see: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

Less than convincing, IMO.

I agree. For the other side of the argument see Reply-To Munging
Considered Useful

http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/reply-to-useful.html

However, the situation is that many lists (unlike this one) do not set
the reply-to header so that messages go back to the list. So regardless
of our personal preferences for list behaviour, it would be useful to
have a Reply to List option for when we have to deal with lists which
don't set the reply-to header. I know we can use Reply to All and delete
all the recipients except for the list, but it would be nice to have a
shortcut.

What would be really nice IMO is a preference option so that any reply to
a list message is automatically directed to the list, regardless of
whether the reply-to header has been set to do this. The good thing about
a preference option is that we don't have to remember to select Reply to
List whenever we reply to a list message, and it's optional (if you don't
like it you don't have to use it).

Jeremy





Re: Feature request: Reply to list command

2004-11-22 Thread Richard Hart

Shane Stanley wrote:

... in some people's *opinion*.

see: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

Less than convincing, IMO.

I agree. PowerMail makes this very clear and simple to do. An extra
button would just clutter the tool bar.

RH





Re: Feature request: Reply to list command

2004-11-22 Thread Sean McBride

Shane Stanley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on Mon, Nov 22, 2004 02:10 said:

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 01:14:45 -0500, Sean McBride wrote:

Many mailing lists (like this one) set the 'reply-to' header so that
messages go back to the list.  This is bad

... in some people's *opinion*.

Yes, of course... that's why I wrote But nevermind all that!!, which I
should have known people would not. :)

Te real point of my message was that I think a 'reply to list' button
would be valuable.

Then when one wants to reply to the list, wether it munges the 'reply to'
field or not (list moms will do both, regardless or what anyone wants)
one can be sure they just need this one new command, and voila!

--
But if the answer isn't violence, neither is your silence - Pop Will
Eat Itself






Re: Feature request: Reply to list command

2004-11-22 Thread Jacques Bossy

le Mon, 22 Nov 2004 01:14:45 -0500, Sean McBride a écrit :

Many mailing lists (like this one) set the 'reply-to' header so that
messages go back to the list.  This is bad, see:
http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

I found this :
Reasonable mail programs have two separate reply commands: one that
replies directly to the author of a message, and another that replies to
the author plus all of the list recipients.

Well PM is a 'reasonable mail program' !
You just have to do a long clic on reply button and you will find those two
separate commands.

Jacques
--
Jacques Bossy

- ... Qu'est-ce que ça signifie, « apprivoiser » ?
- C'est une chose trop oubliée. Cela signifie créer des liens.
(Antoine de Saint Exupéry)





Re: Feature request: Reply to list command

2004-11-22 Thread Shane Stanley

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 01:14:45 -0500, Sean McBride wrote:

Many mailing lists (like this one) set the 'reply-to' header so that
messages go back to the list.  This is bad

... in some people's *opinion*.

see: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

Less than convincing, IMO.

-- 
Shane Stanley  [EMAIL PROTECTED]