Re(2): 2GB limit: the Official Pronouncement

2006-10-30 Thread CTM info
Mikael,

One good way to reconsolidate databases is to export each of them in
PowerMail Exchange format (one single export for all folders) and then
drag all the files from the finder to the folder list in the
consolidating database.

And then during the import, you have free time to do something (else)
meaningful.

Cheers,

jean michel/ctm qa

On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 20:51:20 +0100, Mikael Byström  wrote:

>Steve Abrahamson said:
>
>>And if I decide I don't like this path, how do I re-consolidate several
>>databases?
>
>By hand.




Re(2): 2GB limit: the Official Pronouncement

2006-10-28 Thread Pat O'Halloran
It appears that on 27/10/06 at 23:24 H.R. Riggs spake thus:

>OK, dumb question, how does one get FoxTrot to search the Powermail
>database. It doesn't seem to do it for me.
>
>Ron

make sure that the Powermail Files folder is one of the places you've
told FT to search, in the prefs.

-- 
Pat O'Halloranhttp://www.danu.co.uk
All tapes left in a car for more than about a fortnight
metamorphose into Best of Queen albums. - Pratchett & Gaiman




Re(2): 2GB limit: the Official Pronouncement

2006-10-27 Thread CTM info
Christian,

This should absolutely work, and is an ever more sensible approach than
the two methods I suggested. Plus, as per your point 4), has the
advantage of fostering all sorts of fulfilling activities ;-)

Incidentally, the Intel migration's benefits really show in large
database operations, alas that means less waiting time.

Cheers,

jean michel

On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 01:36:32 +0200, Christian Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>CTM info wrote:
>
>>
>>Instructions on creating the equivalent of a database clone:
>>
>
>If one has the time (don't know how long PM would need for this),
>wouldn't it be less error-prone to:
>
>1. Copy the complete, existing PM environment.
>
>2. Open the copy, select all emails (which I usually do with something like
>   
> Find in [all local folders]
> [Date received] [is newer than] [20] [years]
>
>3. Drag the found emails to the PM trash. (Do your workout, go to sleep.)
>
>4. Empty PM trash. (Do your workout, go to sleep, have a nice weekend
>with your family.)
>
>5. Quit, restart with Cmd-Opt held down, choose "compact database".
>
>
>Shouldn't this work?
>
>Regards, Christian.
>
>





Re(2): 2GB limit: the Official Pronouncement

2006-10-27 Thread CTM info
Just one more comment:

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:20:20 -0400, Michael Lewis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>If the database were tied into Spotlight, then I could
>search my Powermail and Archive right in it -- only one place to look.

In our FoxTrot-leaning lyricism, I did forget to mention what Michael
aptly brought up above, which is that all PowerMail database which have
enabled indexing are, of course, searchable not just in FoxTrot Personal
Search but in Spotlight as well...

jean michel




Re(2): 2GB limit: the Official Pronouncement

2006-10-27 Thread CTM info
Steve,

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:40:41 -0500, Steve Abrahamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>I still have no idea *how* someone is supposed to get to a point where
>they have two user environments or databases or whatever in PM, short of
>just starting a new one from scratch (which really doesn't do any
>intelligent separation other than "everything before a date." Can anyone
>shed some light on this so I can at least try this out?

OK, so if somebody makes an official pronouncement around here, he
better live with the consequences ;-)

The easiest way to go about this is to drag to the Finder those folders
that you want out of your current database, and export them as PowerMail
Exchange format. Once the export is complete, delete the said folders
and repeat until done. Then compact your database; it will have shrunken
considerably.

Then, create a new user environment and drag the exported folders into
it. Normally. indexing is enabled (check under preferences that it is)
and you will have a secondary, indexed database with your archives.
Select your original user environment again and resume work

In order to enjoy "One-stop-searching" as you requested, just add your
current and archived PowerMail Files folder to FoxTrot Personal Search's
list of folders to be indexed, and you will have a single interface to
search both the old and the current.

Cheers,

jean michel/ctm qa

PS: I do have to say that another elegant feature in this arena, and one
we have considered doing for years but not quite gotten around to, would
be to "Clone" a user environment much the way one does in FileMaker Pro.

This would produce a fresh user environment with the same address book,
settings, filters, server-side database and folders - except with no
messages or index. This way, one could cut off at any point and start
anew, without any of the inconvenience spelled below.

Alas, we don't have a Clone feature in PowerMail, so things are a bit
more manual than that - but doable indeed; for one, I've done it, and
itsa nota so bada. Here's how:


Instructions on creating the equivalent of a database clone:


1) Use the assistant to Export "Your entire mail database". Once the
progress indicator shows about 5% done, cancel the export

2)  Open the Exported mail file with TextEdit and Select/
Delete everything after the first occurence of "From [EMAIL PROTECTED]", 
inclusive



3) If you wish to take along anything more than an empty database,
select these folders and drag them towards the Finder. An export dialog
will prompt you to pick a format. Use PowerMail Exchange as a format.

4) Create a new user environment in PowerMail. Quit PowerMail

5) Replace the following files inside the newly-created PowerMail Files
folder with *copies* of the identically-named files/folders in your
former PowerMail files:

User Prefs
Setup Database
Server-side Database
Address Database
Custom Sounds
Custom Scripts
Custom Icons
Custom Dictionary

6) Relaunch PowerMail. Drag your "Exported Mail" file into the folder
pane, along with any of the exported files under point 3).

7) Important: make sure that all the folders are named the way you want
them. For instance, if you moved your former In tray in Point 3), its
new name will be In Tray 2 and you will need to transfer its contents to
the In tray.

8) Last but not least: go through your filters and verify or set again
the folder destinations for the filters of yours that move data (by
default, these will be set to move to In tray). Voila, you're done !

Now I acknoweldge that this is a bit tedious, but one really should only
have to do this when wanting to start from a clean slate, i.e. after
having terminally reached the near 2-GB zone...





Re(2): 2GB limit: the Official Pronouncement

2006-10-27 Thread Marlyse Comte
I do understand the notion, though, even your hard drive isn't big
enough to keep all what you do from all the years past and current on 1
drive. Well, at least not if you in graphics with big images and 3D and
animation etc. - So things have to get archived or tossed or new,
additional hard drives need to be bought and installed.

Not even Google goes over the 2 gig storage per user... and it heavily
advertises as "access ALL your mail in one spot" - with other words,
probably most of us are pack rats and even keep stuff around they'll
NEVER use again - for example, my archives have harvested messages from
tons of list servers with software questions relating to software
versions so long gone, I'd have to bring up my 840 AV and system 7 just
to be able to load it - but still, I have it in my archives.

Cleaning household and archiving is a good thing, the bigger the
accumulation, the longer searches take because it constantly has to sift
though old stuff and also indexing gets slower the bigger the database.
Even memories we categorize into "childhood" etc., so why not pack old
email into the memory slot called "archive"? I do a cleanup about 1x a
year - it's like spring cleaning and keeps my databases sane.

---marlyse

 former message(s) quotes: -

>Just FWIW, I access older mail sometimes, albeit frequently. The issue
>is that I don't want to have to search here, then there, then the other
>place, etc. If I think "email," that's where I want to look, you know?