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When running under 8.6, does the HTML viewer even work? I have my Powerbook 1400 set up with two boot partitions, one for 8.6 and one for 9.1. I _think_ I recall that when I first tried Powermail under 8.6, the HTML viewer wouldn't work (or maybe it didn't work right). I copied the HTMLRenderingLib from my 9.1 partition, and everything worked fine from there. For running Powermail without automatically viewing HTML content, here are some relevant settings: Under Edit/Preferences/HTML reader, you can check 'Enable HTML reader', but leave the choices for 'Prefer HTML when plain text is available' and 'Download external pictures if connected' _un_checked. This will allow you to see the message content if a sender of HTML messages is kind enough to include plain text (without rendering the HTML), and will also not load images on HTML messages, which is one way to suppress a possible security risk. BTW - If you are using iCab as your default browser, and want to view HTML messages from Powermail, make sure that the iCab preferences are set to have iCab deal with the FILE protocol. Otherwise, iCab will open to a blank window. -- Don V. Zahniser [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, Aug 8, 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running OS 8.6 on a Power Computing Clone.
Re(2): Evaluating Powermail: 3 Questions
Okay, ready for this? I had to go to Setup Accounts and select my default signature there. When I selected Random Text Signature as my default signature under Accounts, I got the signature line where I wanted it, when this reply was initially created. Go figure. However, with that configured as the default, I can't use the pull-down menu in the message window to change this signature if I'd like to. -- HaTMooL Boot error: keyboard not found. Press F1 to continue. -- Kelly Washington Don V. Zahniser pontificated: I am using Mac OS 9.1 - In this reply (which I used for testing): When I first start a reply, and have the preference for default location of the signature set to 'Before quoted text', that's where my default signature goes. If, while in the body of my reply, I choose a different signature, it replaces the default signature. If I put the cursor into the quoted text, and choose a different signature, it again replaces the previous signature at its original location. If I choose 'No text signature', my previous signature is erased. After choosing 'No text signature', any signature that I chose went to the _bottom_ of the note. At _no_ time can I change the location of the signature to any place other than just above the quoted text or just after the quoted text. I _am_ able to create a text clipping with a copy of one of my signatures and insert it at any place in the note: -- Don V. Zahniser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Like that! On Fri, Aug 8, 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: here it works correctly. if I have insertion point set to be before quoted messages, my signature shows also before the quoted text. also, if I move the cursor in a message some lines up or down and then select a signature from the popup at the bottom of the window, the signature shows up exactly where my cursor was. ---marlyse are you evaluating the latest version of PM? -former message(s) quotes:- 2) No matter how I set preferences or use the insertion point, signatures appear at the END of the e-mail, even if I happen to be typing at the top, before quoted text. Is there a way to change this? -- This is a test of the Default Signature Attribute
Re(2): Evaluating Powermail: 3 Questions
There was a time (Sat, Aug 9, 2003 at 12:59 PM) when Don said this thing: I am using Mac OS 9.1 - In this reply (which I used for testing): When I first start a reply, and have the preference for default location of the signature set to 'Before quoted text', that's where my default signature goes. --snip-- Sounds like a contextual menu that added Insert Signature and/or Insert Text Clipping would do what you're asking. Mark Mark Gerber GERBER STUDIO/Tradigital Illustration http://www.gerberstudio.com
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I am using Mac OS 9.1 - In this reply (which I used for testing): When I first start a reply, and have the preference for default location of the signature set to 'Before quoted text', that's where my default signature goes. If, while in the body of my reply, I choose a different signature, it replaces the default signature. If I put the cursor into the quoted text, and choose a different signature, it again replaces the previous signature at its original location. If I choose 'No text signature', my previous signature is erased. After choosing 'No text signature', any signature that I chose went to the _bottom_ of the note. At _no_ time can I change the location of the signature to any place other than just above the quoted text or just after the quoted text. I _am_ able to create a text clipping with a copy of one of my signatures and insert it at any place in the note: -- Don V. Zahniser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Like that! On Fri, Aug 8, 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: here it works correctly. if I have insertion point set to be before quoted messages, my signature shows also before the quoted text. also, if I move the cursor in a message some lines up or down and then select a signature from the popup at the bottom of the window, the signature shows up exactly where my cursor was. ---marlyse are you evaluating the latest version of PM? -former message(s) quotes:- 2) No matter how I set preferences or use the insertion point, signatures appear at the END of the e-mail, even if I happen to be typing at the top, before quoted text. Is there a way to change this?
Re(2): Evaluating Powermail: 3 Questions
I wonder if your old(er) system is causing the problem -8.6 has been a little while since - last I used 8.6 something like 4 years ago or even more (?). Though why that would cause you having problems with the insertion of signature is above my logic and knowledge. ---marlyse -former message(s) quotes:- Version 4.1.3. I'm running OS 8.6 on a Power Computing Clone.
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On 8/8/03 7:32 PM Ben Kennedy wrote: (Or, delete the message altogether without reading it since HTML in e- mail is a bloody annoying scourge and a waste of your time) I agree that it's always a scourge, and it's a waste of time in 99% of cases. But there are exceptions. Unfortunately, some e-mail servers have a setting to send all messages as HTML, and inexperienced users will do it that way either because they don't know any better, or because they look prettier. It happened when my granddaughter got her own computer and started sending me email letters. Len -- N. Leonard Morgenstern [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've been rich and I've been poor. Believe me, rich is better. Sophie Tucker
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Marlyse Comte expounded: here it works correctly. if I have insertion point set to be before quoted messages, my signature shows also before the quoted text. also, if I move the cursor in a message some lines up or down and then select a signature from the popup at the bottom of the window, the signature shows up exactly where my cursor was. ---marlyse are you evaluating the latest version of PM? -former message(s) quotes:- 2) No matter how I set preferences or use the insertion point, signatures appear at the END of the e-mail, even if I happen to be typing at the top, before quoted text. Is there a way to change this? Version 4.1.3. I'm running OS 8.6 on a Power Computing Clone. -- HaTMooL Boot error: keyboard not found. Press F1 to continue. -- Kelly Washington
Re(2): Evaluating Powermail: 3 Questions
here it works correctly. if I have insertion point set to be before quoted messages, my signature shows also before the quoted text. also, if I move the cursor in a message some lines up or down and then select a signature from the popup at the bottom of the window, the signature shows up exactly where my cursor was. ---marlyse are you evaluating the latest version of PM? -former message(s) quotes:- 2) No matter how I set preferences or use the insertion point, signatures appear at the END of the e-mail, even if I happen to be typing at the top, before quoted text. Is there a way to change this?
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Workaround on displaying/headers I use my web browser (Safari, Mac OSX 10.2.6) to go into webmail on my ISP and look in my mailbox. I then select all messages. Then I unselect the ones I want to keep and click on delete. No spam ever gets downloaded, and I can view the messages from within the server mailbox and see the headers. The message is still on the server, not on my machine, so no attachments get downloaded. If your ISP doesn't have its own webmail (mine uses Squirrelmail), Pandamail works well. - Bob Moody [EMAIL PROTECTED] 936 Frog Pond Road Staunton VA 24401 800-326-9192 www.bobmoody.org Replying to message quoted at the bottom of this message. (Scroll down below signature lines.) Fri, 8 Aug 2003 17:12:13 -0400 On 08 8 2003 at 5:02 pm -0400, The Internet Deity HaTMooL wrote: 1) How do you set the priority on a message? No, because there is no such thing as priority in the mail RFC. Somebody else can expound on this however. 2) No matter how I set preferences or use the insertion point, signatures appear at the END of the e-mail, even if I happen to be typing at the top, before quoted text. Is there a way to change this? So you want your signature to appear in the body of the message, with all quoted text trailing thereafter? I thought there was a pref for this, but maybe not. You may wish to check out the Text Clippings feature, which will let you throw arbitrary text wherever you want with a mere click of the mouse. 3) It appears I cannot view a message's full headers without opening it first. Really scary if you want to check suspicious e-mail before opening it. Even Netscape, Mozilla and *Gasp!* Outlook let me look at a message's source without opening it. Why is this scary? If by opening it you mean displaying it in the window, well, I guess that's true, but who cares? The only way in which this poses a problem is that the build-in HTML renderer PM uses is so flaky that it sometimes tends to crash the application. Hopefully CTM is busily integrating WebKit into the next release as I type this. Unlike Microsoft products, PM won't arbitrarily start executing attachments or javascript code or anything simply by displaying an e-mail message. -ben -- Ben Kennedy, chief magician zygoat creative technical services 613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628 http://www.zygoat.ca
