Re: [PPIBelgia] Fw: Informasi tentang Visa Reunifikasi
Herman & Rezki, Coba cek email-email lama di yahoogroups, ada beberapa kali pembahasan ttg visa. Ini salah satu linknya: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PPIBelgia/message/542 Tempat tinggal yang layak untuk pasangan suami-istri (tanpa anak) mungkin paling tidak ada 1 kamar , ruang tamu, kamar mandi dan dapur. Saya pernah dengar sebetulnya ada standarnya berapa meter-persegi per-orang, tapi saya tidak tahu berapa. Sebaiknya langsung tinggal di rumah yang layak untuk keluarga, daripada di dormitory, sebab waktu kita mengajukan aplikasi, sejak saat itu kita perlu alamat yang pada saatnya nanti akan ada orang yang datang nge-cek. Memang ini makan biaya atau mubajir, sebab rumah untuk dua orang atau lebih ditinggali seorang. Kalau di Antwerp, standar menunggu surat keterangan rumah yang layak 6 bulan. Di kota lain mungkin bisa lebih cepat, karena di Antwerp banyak banget imigran-nya. salam, dendi --- On Tue, 12/16/08, rezki amalia wrote: From: rezki amalia Subject: [PPIBelgia] Fw: Informasi tentang Visa Reunifikasi To: "PPI BELGIA" , "ppi gent" Cc: hyto...@yahoo.com Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 12:45 PM Salam kenal juga herman,,, email herman saya forward ke ppi belgia dan ppi gent, siapa tau ada yang bisa memeberikan masukan,,, buat teman-teman semua, minta tolong infonya yah,,,utamanya yang sudah berpengalaman dengan family reunion. kalau bisa herman juga di invite ke millis ppi belgia dan ppi gent,,, makasih sebelumnya,, - Forwarded Message From: herman sutarto To: amalia_rezki@ yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 3:41:49 AM Subject: Informasi tentang Visa Reunifikasi Salam Kenal Amalia Rezki, Saya mendapat email anda dari Damar Adhika dan saya sendiri adalah H.Y Sutarto yang akan mulai PhD di SYTeMS Research Group EE. Saya akan berangkat sendiri dulu ke Ghent tanggal 12 januari. Setelah itu,sekitar bulan Agustus 09 ,keluarga akan saya jemput. Sehubungan dengan Visa Reunifikasi, ada salah satu syarat yaitu harus ada bukti bahwa kita harus mempunyai temapt tinggal yang layak. Dokumen ini dapat diminta di walikota di Ghent. Nama dokumen ini dalam bahasa Belanda adalah attest van voldoede huisvesting. Namun Prof Saya sudah mengingatkan bahwa untuk mendaptkan dokumen tsb,kadang2 sulit,karena tempat tinggal kita dianggap tidak layak dsb dsb,yang berakibat Visa Reunifikasi sulit/lama untuk didapat. Apkah ada pengalaman/informas i dari temen2 PPI gent untuk menyiasati hal ini? Kira2 tempat tinggal yang layak seperti apakh untuk 'ukuran' immigrasi Belgia?:-). Saya sendiri sudah mendapat tempat tinggal sementara dari Prof saya yaitu di dormitory dari tanggal 10 Jan - 31 Jan, stelah itu harus cari lagi yang mungkin lebih sesuai atau masih di dormitory juga. Begitu dulu dan terimaksih untuk infonya. salam Herman Y Sutarto
[PPIBelgia] Fw: Informasi tentang Visa Reunifikasi
Salam kenal juga herman,,, email herman saya forward ke ppi belgia dan ppi gent, siapa tau ada yang bisa memeberikan masukan,,, buat teman-teman semua, minta tolong infonya yah,,,utamanya yang sudah berpengalaman dengan family reunion. kalau bisa herman juga di invite ke millis ppi belgia dan ppi gent,,, makasih sebelumnya,, - Forwarded Message From: herman sutarto To: amalia_re...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 3:41:49 AM Subject: Informasi tentang Visa Reunifikasi Salam Kenal Amalia Rezki, Saya mendapat email anda dari Damar Adhika dan saya sendiri adalah H.Y Sutarto yang akan mulai PhD di SYTeMS Research Group EE. Saya akan berangkat sendiri dulu ke Ghent tanggal 12 januari. Setelah itu,sekitar bulan Agustus 09 ,keluarga akan saya jemput. Sehubungan dengan Visa Reunifikasi,ada salah satu syarat yaitu harus ada bukti bahwa kita harus mempunyai temapt tinggal yang layak. Dokumen ini dapat diminta di walikota di Ghent. Nama dokumen ini dalam bahasa Belanda adalah attest van voldoede huisvesting. Namun Prof Saya sudah mengingatkan bahwa untuk mendaptkan dokumen tsb,kadang2 sulit,karena tempat tinggal kita dianggap tidak layak dsb dsb,yang berakibat Visa Reunifikasi sulit/lama untuk didapat. Apkah ada pengalaman/informasi dari temen2 PPI gent untuk menyiasati hal ini? Kira2 tempat tinggal yang layak seperti apakh untuk 'ukuran' immigrasi Belgia?:-). Saya sendiri sudah mendapat tempat tinggal sementara dari Prof saya yaitu di dormitory dari tanggal 10 Jan - 31 Jan, stelah itu harus cari lagi yang mungkin lebih sesuai atau masih di dormitory juga. Begitu dulu dan terimaksih untuk infonya. salam Herman Y Sutarto
Re: [PPIBelgia] Not only for Christian - Mohon Perhatian
Sdri Maria, Terima kasih untuk emailnya tapi tolong untuk diperhatikan bahwa mailing list ini diperuntukkan untuk komunikasi para ex/calon atau pelajar indonesia di Belgia atau yang punya ketertarikan dengan studi di Belgia. Dan diharapkan bahwa isi dari pesan2 yan beredar adalah yang ada kaitannya dengan hal2 tersebut dan aktivitas2 berhubungan dengan indonesia yang terjadi di Belgia, juga kejadian2 yang terjadi di Indonesia yang patut kita ketahui. Untuk itu email sejenis ini mohon tidak dikirimkan ke melis ini, saya tidak menentang isi email anda (saya sendiri seorang Kristen) tapi mohon diperhatikan aturan main di melis ini. Terima kasih, Dawina (salah satu moderator) --- On Mon, 12/15/08, maria francisca wrote: From: maria francisca Subject: [PPIBelgia] Not only for Christian To: ppibelgia@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 12:20 PM IF SOMEONE HAD A GUN HELD IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE AND ASKED YOU IF YOU BELIEVED IN GOD, WHAT WOULD YOU DO? SAY NO AND FEEL ASHAMED THE REST OF YOUR LIFE? OR SAY YES, I DO, AND DIE STANDING UP FOR GOD? If you would say no, DELETE THIS E-MAIL , NOW. IF YOU WOULD SAY YES, AND STAND UP FOR JESUS CHRIST, PLEASE READ THIS AND PASS ON. Note: This is a true article that was printed in a southern newspaper less then a year ago TAKE A DEEP BREATH BEFORE READING THIS There was an atheist couple who had a child. The couple never told their daughter anything about the Lord. One night when the little girl was 5 years old, the parents fought with each other and the dad shot the Mom, right in front of the child. Then, the dad shot himself. The little girl watched it all. She then was sent to a foster home. The foster mother was a Christian and took the child to church. On the first day of Sunday School, the foster mother told the teacher that the girl had never heard of Jesus, and to have patience with her. The teacher held up a picture of Jesus and said, 'Does anyone know who this is?' The little girl said, 'I do, that's the man who was holding me the night my parents died.' If you believe this little girl is telling the truth that even though she had never heard of Jesus, he still held her the night her parents died, then you will forward this to as many people as you can. Or you can delete it as if it never touched your heart. Funny, isn't it? Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says. Funny how everyone wants to go to heaven provided they do not have to believe, think, say, or do anything the Bible says. (Or is it scary?) Funny how someone can say 'I believe in God' but still follow Satan (who, by the way, also 'believes' in God). Funny how you can send a thousand 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing. Funny how the lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene pass freely through cyberspace, but the public discussion of Jesus is suppressed in the school and workplace. Funny how when you go to forward this message, you will not send it to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what they will think of you for sending it to them. Funny how we can go to church for Christ on Sunday, but be an invisible Christian the rest of the week. (Are you laughing?) Funny how I can be more worried about what other people think of me than what God thinks of me. (Are you thinking?) Pass this on only if you mean it.. Yes, I do Love God!
[PPIBelgia] Not only for Christian
IF SOMEONE HAD A GUN HELD IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE AND ASKED YOU IF YOU BELIEVED IN GOD,WHAT WOULD YOU DO? SAY NO AND FEEL ASHAMED THE REST OF YOUR LIFE?OR SAY YES, I DO, AND DIE STANDING UP FOR GOD? If you would say no, DELETE THIS E-MAIL , NOW.IF YOU WOULD SAY YES, AND STAND UP FOR JESUS CHRIST, PLEASE READ THIS AND PASS ON. Note: This is a true article that was printed in a southern newspaper less then a year ago TAKE A DEEP BREATH BEFORE READING THIS There was an atheist couple who had a child. The couple never told their daughter anything about the Lord. One night when the little girl was 5 years old, the parents fought with each other and the dad shot the Mom, right in front of the child. Then, the dad shot himself. The little girl watched it all. She then was sent to a foster home. The foster mother was a Christian and took the child to church. On the first day of Sunday School, the foster mother told the teacher that the girl had never heard of Jesus, and to have patience with her. The teacher held up a picture of Jesus and said, 'Does anyone know who this is?' The little girl said, 'I do, that's the man who was holding me the night my parents died.' If you believe this little girl is telling the truth that even though she had never heard of Jesus, he still held her the night her parents died, then you will forward this to as many people as you can. Or you can delete it as if it never touched your heart. Funny, isn't it? Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says. Funny how everyone wants to go to heaven provided they do not have to believe, think, say, or do anything the Bible says. (Or is it scary?) Funny how someone can say 'I believe in God' but still follow Satan (who, by the way, also 'believes' in God). Funny how you can send a thousand 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing. Funny how the lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene pass freely through cyberspace, but the public discussion of Jesus is suppressed in the school and workplace. Funny how when you go to forward this message, you will not send it to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what they will think of you for sending it to them. Funny how we can go to church for Christ on Sunday, but be an invisible Christian the rest of the week. (Are you laughing?) Funny how I can be more worried about what other people think of me than what God thinks of me. (Are you thinking?) Pass this on only if you mean it.. Yes, I do LoveGod!
Re: [PPIBelgia] Pak Bush dilempar sepatu...
sayang meleset yah hehehehehhehe piss ah --utong-- From: bagusco To: ppibelgia@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:20:05 AM Subject: [PPIBelgia] Pak Bush dilempar sepatu... ini beritanya... http://news. bbc.co.uk/ 2/hi/middle_ east/7782422. stm yang males lihat video, ada versi gif-nya di... http://img.photobuc ket.com/albums/ v620/theweaselki ng/Thirdmain/ 000wp00b. gif paspampres-nya pasti kena omel nih kayaknya salam, bagusco
[PPIBelgia] Pak Bush dilempar sepatu...
ini beritanya... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7782422.stm yang males lihat video, ada versi gif-nya di... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/theweaselking/Thirdmain/000wp00b.gif paspampres-nya pasti kena omel nih kayaknya salam, bagusco