[ppiindia] Mata mata Yahudi

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[ppiindia] Sebuah keprihatinan

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[ppiindia] Lengkap (was re 16 Ormas Islam Bekasi Menyegel Gereja Galilea)

2010-02-15 Terurut Topik deep too
16 Ormas Islam Bekasi Menyegel Gereja Galilea
Senin, 15 Pebruari 2010 05:52 WIB | Peristiwa | Hukum/Kriminal | Dibaca 4547 
kali
Bekasi (ANTARA News) - Ratusan umat muslim yang berasal dari 16 Organisasi 
Masyarakat (Ormas) Islam di wilayah Kota Bekasi, Jawa Barat, akan menutup 
paksa aktifitas peribadahan umat kristiani di Gereja Galileo, Perumahan 
Taman Galaxy, Kelurahan Jaka Setia, Kecamatan Bekasi Selatan.

Kagiatan ini akan kami lakukan, Senin (15/2), mulai pukul 08:00 WIB. Karena 
keberadaannya sudah sangat meresahkan warga setempat yang mayoritasnya 
beragama muslim, ujar Ketua Front Pembela Islam (FPI) Bekasi Raya, Murhali 
Barda, kepada ANTARA, di Bekasi, Minggu.

Menurut Murhali, keresahan warga muslim sekitar terhadap keberadaan Gereja 
yang berlokasi di lingkungan Pulau Minas, Perumahan Villa Galxy tersebut 
karena munculnya dugaan upaya Kristenisasi dari pihak pengelola Gereja.

Laporan dari beberapa jemaah kami menyebutkan, internal Gereja kerap 
menggelar pembagian Sembako murah namun dengan embel-embel mengakui Yesus 
sebagai Tuhan mereka. Hal itu saya nilai sebagai pelanggaran, katanya.

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Komentar Pembaca
Kalo di daerah yg mayoritas muslim, akan didirikan gereja dikatakan 
KRISTENISASI. Tapi kalo di daerah yang mayoritas non-muslim akan dibangun 
masjid dikatakan TOLERANSI BERAGAMA. Inilah Indonesiaku yg tercinta 
Pakar Perbandingan Agama 15/02/10 09:46

Apa Mesjid minta Ijin dengan lingkungan. yang aku tau minta duit ama 
masyarakat. Bonding haram, Valentine Haram, Pre wed Haram, Kawin siri, istri 
empar, anakri menutup rumah ibadah halal. memang ajaran oknum sesat. Baca 
Quran yang bener jangan dengerin dakwah bandot fanatik.
onchom 15/02/10 10:01

yah kita kan indonesia yah saling menghormatilah sesama umat beragama jangan 
ingin menang sendiri itu kan berpotensi sara itu tidak baik.
david 15/02/10 10:13

Pendirian masjid di Kampung saya (Bali) tidak pernah tuh minta persetujuan 
warga setempat. Berdiri saja seenak udelnya.
Bloon 15/02/10 10:36

Mana toleransi warga Indonesia, lihat Bali, mana ada pelarangan, sudah 
berapa tempat ibadah non Hindu yang ada disana. Ini koq jadi intoleransi ?
wayan 15/02/10 11:24

Di Negara kita tidak ada lagi toleransi dan kebebasan beragama semenjak 
muncul nya FPI dan laskar jahid
Sara 15/02/10 13:30

Pendirian Gereja di kotaku (Jawa bagian Tengah) tidak pernah ada yang 
menentang meskipun mayoritas Muslim, tetapi tidak lama kemudian banyak 
Orang-orang Islam yang murtad pindah agama, terutama mereka yang miskin dan 
rumahnya dipinggir kali, dan sayangnya ini terus berlanjut tanpa ada yang 
peduli, dan juga karena masyarakat disitu kelewat toleran, akhirnya yaaa 
dikibulin.
bedjo 15/02/10 13:46

ono - ono wae dimana dong kebebasan beragama kami...
nang nita 15/02/10 14:56

Perlu memang dipikirkan jalan keluar yang terbaik, soal pendirian tempat 
ibadah, jika sudah mengacu kepada aturan dan disetujui tetangga, saya pikir 
tidak jadi masalah, tinggal pendiriannya sudah benar apa belum, terus kenapa 
setelah berdiri baru ditentang, kok sebelumnya tidak di protes yah,
kepentingan siapa hayo
Bang Imam (tengku_i...@yahoo.co.id) 15/02/10 19:16

Wah-wah manusia lucu juga yah 
Tuhan juga tertawa melihatnya...
bala67 15/02/10 21:15

Kuq ISLAM jadi bgini?stau aku g pernah ada gnian..aku seh jg sbner'a stuju 
ma umat KRISTIANI.emg apa mslh'a sih,umat ISLAM juga blh kn buad 
Masjid..brarti umat Kristiani boleh juga dong bikin Gereja. Ya kan?!
QueeN 15/02/10 21:17

KAPAN KITA DAMAI  Gereja disegel..rmah jd t4 ibadah dkira agama 
sesat...trus mw bkin greja d myoritas kristen gtu???!! ITU YANG NMAY 
KRISTENISASI, BUNG!! pmbedaan atas dsar agama.. ksihan bgt gw sm Indonesia 
yg msih aj nglindungin ormas2 yg gajebo ky gtu.. bkan'y mreka2 ntu y yg bkin 
resah wrga INDONESIA??
yan_disciples 15/02/10 21:23

Hargailah org lain untuk menjalankan ibadahnya,
saya rasa FPI itu terlalu berlebihan sampai memprovokasi masyarakat agar mau 
menyegel gereja tsb..
apa lg mengatakan mengkristenkan org2 sekitar, itu sgt berbahaya, coba 
ditelaah dikit donk kl mau ngomong...
marianus haryanto 15/02/10 21:24
setiap manusia mempunyai hak menjalankan ibadah sesuai keyakinan dirinya 
sendiri..dan kita tidak berhak menghakimi ataupun brprasangka negatif pada 
umat beragama manapun.. manusia yg telah dewasa scr spiritual berhak 100% 
memutuskan dia akan berkeyakinan pada salah satu iman/agama ataupun tidak..
seharusnya, indonesia sebagai negara demokrasi yang mengakui keberagaman.. 
kaum mayoritas melindungi hak kaum minoritas.. jgn samapai ada perpecahan, 
krn 

Continued (was Re: [ppiindia] Muslim Group Threatens to Close Down Bekasi Church)

2010-02-15 Terurut Topik deep too
http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/home/muslim-group-threatens-to-close-down-bekasi-church/358714

February 15, 2010

Muslim Group Threatens to Close Down Bekasi Church
Hundreds of supporters of 16 Islamic social organizations in Bekasi, West 
Java, threatened to forcibly close Galileo Church, located in Taman Galaxy, 
South Bekasi, on Monday, alleging that the church was trying to convert 
Muslim residents.

We will close the church on Monday morning because their existence had 
disturbed the local residents, who are mostly Muslims, said the head of 
Bekasi's Islamic Defender Front (FPI) Murhali on TV One on Sunday.

Murhali said that there were allegations that the church was carrying out a 
mission to convert residents.

We received reports that church officials often held a charity bazaar for 
locals but they were asked to say that Jesus is their God. I think it's a 
violation, he said.

There were six churches in the housing complex. At night, their singing 
disturbs the locals' sleep, he said. The organizations said they had issued 
a statement to urge Bekasi's municipal government to close the church, as 
regulated in Joint Ministerial Decree between the Religion Minister and the 
Home Affairs Ministers about places of worship.

The joint decree states that before a place of worship is built, it must 
get approval from 60 percent of local residents, he said.

The officials of Galilea Church were not available for comment, but police 
were seen guarding the premises on Monday morning.

Bekasi's Head Detective Comr. Budi Sartono advised demonstrators to conduct 
peaceful protests and avoid violence. He said police would not tolerate 
anarchy.

If mistakes have been made, let's correct the mistakes peacefully. Police 
and the government are open to suggestions for improvements from public, 
Budi said.



Comments




landreaumax
7:32 AM February 16, 2010
know what this country really needs? a secret police to tackle subvert 
organization like this fpi. treat them like terrorist, after that's what 
they are right?

the government will never have the balls to shut this thing down.

padt
5:27 AM February 16, 2010
A Catholic I know recently converted to Islam here in Jakarta. I don't 
recall his former Catholic congregation closing down the local mosque in 
protest.

A person's right to practice their religion - and convert to an other if 
they so wish - is an inalienable human right that no one and no other 
religion has the right to challenge.

The laws governing the rights of religious minorities in Indonesia are 
unjust and only serve the interests of the Muslim majority.

Given, from my experience, that many Muslims here seem to have, first of 
all, a very limited and basic understanding of their own religion, and 
secondly, absolutely no understanding, based on facts, of any other 
religion, (what some Muslims have told me, as a Catholic , what Catholics 
believe is amazingly ignorant of the facts), Muslim prejudices will only 
serve to create social unrest in a pluralistic, so-called, democratic 
society.



Marmz
9:30 PM February 15, 2010
The FPI are simply a state-condoned terrorist organisation. I wonder why 
they get any voice at all, the bigots.

papaD
5:45 PM February 15, 2010
Simon:

Which one? the foam or the vodka? :P

peroblanco
5:15 PM February 15, 2010
5 call-to-prayers  nightly sing-alongs. I say that should be even steven. 
Although I can't bear the thought of having all 5 'official' religions' 
temples in my neighborhood, cos that would mean 5 different kind of ruckus. 
God help us all.

Rules
2:30 PM February 15, 2010
Once more from the religion of peace. Amazing!

peterR
1:56 PM February 15, 2010
There were six churches in the housing complex. At night, their singing 
disturbs the locals' sleep, he said.


That makes a change.

Simon P
1:47 PM February 15, 2010
Heh heh, yes let's talk about disturbing locals' sleep shall we? Personally 
I use foam ear plugs which you can get down the chemist and vodka. Keeps me 
in the land of nod come 4am.

papaD
1:09 PM February 15, 2010
FPI flexing its muscle again. I sometimes wonder whether i really have to 
listen to the azan at 4-5AM in the morning but i never complain about it.

Roland
12:59 PM February 15, 2010
This FPI organization is still in existence? They stirred in the past so 
many times and caused so many troubles...

On the other side I like the statement of the Bekasi's Head Detective Comr. 
Budi Sartono - whatever the outcome - it should be made in peace.