[ppiindia] Mata mata Yahudi
Sudah baca http://indonesia.faithfreedom.org/forum/putra-hamas-jadi-mata-yahudi-t37764/ ?
[ppiindia] Sebuah keprihatinan
http://www.indonesiamedia.com/2010/06/01/ketika-naga-emas-singkawang-terluka-sebuah-keprihatinan/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[ppiindia] Lengkap (was re 16 Ormas Islam Bekasi Menyegel Gereja Galilea)
16 Ormas Islam Bekasi Menyegel Gereja Galilea Senin, 15 Pebruari 2010 05:52 WIB | Peristiwa | Hukum/Kriminal | Dibaca 4547 kali Bekasi (ANTARA News) - Ratusan umat muslim yang berasal dari 16 Organisasi Masyarakat (Ormas) Islam di wilayah Kota Bekasi, Jawa Barat, akan menutup paksa aktifitas peribadahan umat kristiani di Gereja Galileo, Perumahan Taman Galaxy, Kelurahan Jaka Setia, Kecamatan Bekasi Selatan. Kagiatan ini akan kami lakukan, Senin (15/2), mulai pukul 08:00 WIB. Karena keberadaannya sudah sangat meresahkan warga setempat yang mayoritasnya beragama muslim, ujar Ketua Front Pembela Islam (FPI) Bekasi Raya, Murhali Barda, kepada ANTARA, di Bekasi, Minggu. Menurut Murhali, keresahan warga muslim sekitar terhadap keberadaan Gereja yang berlokasi di lingkungan Pulau Minas, Perumahan Villa Galxy tersebut karena munculnya dugaan upaya Kristenisasi dari pihak pengelola Gereja. Laporan dari beberapa jemaah kami menyebutkan, internal Gereja kerap menggelar pembagian Sembako murah namun dengan embel-embel mengakui Yesus sebagai Tuhan mereka. Hal itu saya nilai sebagai pelanggaran, katanya. . . . . . . COPYRIGHT © 2010 Baca Juga a.. Mahasiswa di Mamuju Desak Pemerintah Turunkan Harga Sembako b.. Ormas Islam Akan Demo Depan Mahkamah Konstitusi c.. Harga Cabai Merah di Bengkulu Naik d.. Hasyim Muzadi Tidak Minta Jabatan Rais Aam e.. Distributor Nakal di Makassar, Picu Kenaikan Harga di Mamuju Komentar Pembaca Kalo di daerah yg mayoritas muslim, akan didirikan gereja dikatakan KRISTENISASI. Tapi kalo di daerah yang mayoritas non-muslim akan dibangun masjid dikatakan TOLERANSI BERAGAMA. Inilah Indonesiaku yg tercinta Pakar Perbandingan Agama 15/02/10 09:46 Apa Mesjid minta Ijin dengan lingkungan. yang aku tau minta duit ama masyarakat. Bonding haram, Valentine Haram, Pre wed Haram, Kawin siri, istri empar, anakri menutup rumah ibadah halal. memang ajaran oknum sesat. Baca Quran yang bener jangan dengerin dakwah bandot fanatik. onchom 15/02/10 10:01 yah kita kan indonesia yah saling menghormatilah sesama umat beragama jangan ingin menang sendiri itu kan berpotensi sara itu tidak baik. david 15/02/10 10:13 Pendirian masjid di Kampung saya (Bali) tidak pernah tuh minta persetujuan warga setempat. Berdiri saja seenak udelnya. Bloon 15/02/10 10:36 Mana toleransi warga Indonesia, lihat Bali, mana ada pelarangan, sudah berapa tempat ibadah non Hindu yang ada disana. Ini koq jadi intoleransi ? wayan 15/02/10 11:24 Di Negara kita tidak ada lagi toleransi dan kebebasan beragama semenjak muncul nya FPI dan laskar jahid Sara 15/02/10 13:30 Pendirian Gereja di kotaku (Jawa bagian Tengah) tidak pernah ada yang menentang meskipun mayoritas Muslim, tetapi tidak lama kemudian banyak Orang-orang Islam yang murtad pindah agama, terutama mereka yang miskin dan rumahnya dipinggir kali, dan sayangnya ini terus berlanjut tanpa ada yang peduli, dan juga karena masyarakat disitu kelewat toleran, akhirnya yaaa dikibulin. bedjo 15/02/10 13:46 ono - ono wae dimana dong kebebasan beragama kami... nang nita 15/02/10 14:56 Perlu memang dipikirkan jalan keluar yang terbaik, soal pendirian tempat ibadah, jika sudah mengacu kepada aturan dan disetujui tetangga, saya pikir tidak jadi masalah, tinggal pendiriannya sudah benar apa belum, terus kenapa setelah berdiri baru ditentang, kok sebelumnya tidak di protes yah, kepentingan siapa hayo Bang Imam (tengku_i...@yahoo.co.id) 15/02/10 19:16 Wah-wah manusia lucu juga yah Tuhan juga tertawa melihatnya... bala67 15/02/10 21:15 Kuq ISLAM jadi bgini?stau aku g pernah ada gnian..aku seh jg sbner'a stuju ma umat KRISTIANI.emg apa mslh'a sih,umat ISLAM juga blh kn buad Masjid..brarti umat Kristiani boleh juga dong bikin Gereja. Ya kan?! QueeN 15/02/10 21:17 KAPAN KITA DAMAI Gereja disegel..rmah jd t4 ibadah dkira agama sesat...trus mw bkin greja d myoritas kristen gtu???!! ITU YANG NMAY KRISTENISASI, BUNG!! pmbedaan atas dsar agama.. ksihan bgt gw sm Indonesia yg msih aj nglindungin ormas2 yg gajebo ky gtu.. bkan'y mreka2 ntu y yg bkin resah wrga INDONESIA?? yan_disciples 15/02/10 21:23 Hargailah org lain untuk menjalankan ibadahnya, saya rasa FPI itu terlalu berlebihan sampai memprovokasi masyarakat agar mau menyegel gereja tsb.. apa lg mengatakan mengkristenkan org2 sekitar, itu sgt berbahaya, coba ditelaah dikit donk kl mau ngomong... marianus haryanto 15/02/10 21:24 setiap manusia mempunyai hak menjalankan ibadah sesuai keyakinan dirinya sendiri..dan kita tidak berhak menghakimi ataupun brprasangka negatif pada umat beragama manapun.. manusia yg telah dewasa scr spiritual berhak 100% memutuskan dia akan berkeyakinan pada salah satu iman/agama ataupun tidak.. seharusnya, indonesia sebagai negara demokrasi yang mengakui keberagaman.. kaum mayoritas melindungi hak kaum minoritas.. jgn samapai ada perpecahan, krn
Continued (was Re: [ppiindia] Muslim Group Threatens to Close Down Bekasi Church)
http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/home/muslim-group-threatens-to-close-down-bekasi-church/358714 February 15, 2010 Muslim Group Threatens to Close Down Bekasi Church Hundreds of supporters of 16 Islamic social organizations in Bekasi, West Java, threatened to forcibly close Galileo Church, located in Taman Galaxy, South Bekasi, on Monday, alleging that the church was trying to convert Muslim residents. We will close the church on Monday morning because their existence had disturbed the local residents, who are mostly Muslims, said the head of Bekasi's Islamic Defender Front (FPI) Murhali on TV One on Sunday. Murhali said that there were allegations that the church was carrying out a mission to convert residents. We received reports that church officials often held a charity bazaar for locals but they were asked to say that Jesus is their God. I think it's a violation, he said. There were six churches in the housing complex. At night, their singing disturbs the locals' sleep, he said. The organizations said they had issued a statement to urge Bekasi's municipal government to close the church, as regulated in Joint Ministerial Decree between the Religion Minister and the Home Affairs Ministers about places of worship. The joint decree states that before a place of worship is built, it must get approval from 60 percent of local residents, he said. The officials of Galilea Church were not available for comment, but police were seen guarding the premises on Monday morning. Bekasi's Head Detective Comr. Budi Sartono advised demonstrators to conduct peaceful protests and avoid violence. He said police would not tolerate anarchy. If mistakes have been made, let's correct the mistakes peacefully. Police and the government are open to suggestions for improvements from public, Budi said. Comments landreaumax 7:32 AM February 16, 2010 know what this country really needs? a secret police to tackle subvert organization like this fpi. treat them like terrorist, after that's what they are right? the government will never have the balls to shut this thing down. padt 5:27 AM February 16, 2010 A Catholic I know recently converted to Islam here in Jakarta. I don't recall his former Catholic congregation closing down the local mosque in protest. A person's right to practice their religion - and convert to an other if they so wish - is an inalienable human right that no one and no other religion has the right to challenge. The laws governing the rights of religious minorities in Indonesia are unjust and only serve the interests of the Muslim majority. Given, from my experience, that many Muslims here seem to have, first of all, a very limited and basic understanding of their own religion, and secondly, absolutely no understanding, based on facts, of any other religion, (what some Muslims have told me, as a Catholic , what Catholics believe is amazingly ignorant of the facts), Muslim prejudices will only serve to create social unrest in a pluralistic, so-called, democratic society. Marmz 9:30 PM February 15, 2010 The FPI are simply a state-condoned terrorist organisation. I wonder why they get any voice at all, the bigots. papaD 5:45 PM February 15, 2010 Simon: Which one? the foam or the vodka? :P peroblanco 5:15 PM February 15, 2010 5 call-to-prayers nightly sing-alongs. I say that should be even steven. Although I can't bear the thought of having all 5 'official' religions' temples in my neighborhood, cos that would mean 5 different kind of ruckus. God help us all. Rules 2:30 PM February 15, 2010 Once more from the religion of peace. Amazing! peterR 1:56 PM February 15, 2010 There were six churches in the housing complex. At night, their singing disturbs the locals' sleep, he said. That makes a change. Simon P 1:47 PM February 15, 2010 Heh heh, yes let's talk about disturbing locals' sleep shall we? Personally I use foam ear plugs which you can get down the chemist and vodka. Keeps me in the land of nod come 4am. papaD 1:09 PM February 15, 2010 FPI flexing its muscle again. I sometimes wonder whether i really have to listen to the azan at 4-5AM in the morning but i never complain about it. Roland 12:59 PM February 15, 2010 This FPI organization is still in existence? They stirred in the past so many times and caused so many troubles... On the other side I like the statement of the Bekasi's Head Detective Comr. Budi Sartono - whatever the outcome - it should be made in peace.