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well i think it's a big disappointment from many against-israel ppl that obama picked rahm emanuel as his chief of staff. (where rahm will be one of his closest political advisor including foreign affairs). here are the bio of rahm emanuel : his real name is Rahm Israel Emanuel, born in chicago, According to his father, his son is the namesake of Rahamim, a Lehi paramilitary group combatant who was killed. Rahms surname was adopted by his family in 1933, after Rahms paternal uncle, Emanuel Auerbach, was killed in a skirmish with Arabs in Jerusalem. Rahm Emanuel's father, the Jerusalem-born Benjamin M. Emanuel, is a pediatrician and former member of the paramilitary Irgun ( National Military Organization in the Land of Israel), was a militant Zionist group that operated in Palestine between 1931 and 1948. Rahm Emanuel was a civilian volunteer in the Israel Defense Forces during the 1991 Persian Gulf War. rahm emanuel's religion is jewish , he and his family is a member of Anshe Sholom B'nai Israel, a Modern Orthodox synagoge in Chicago. Many Arabs and Palestinians were angry over Obamas appointment of Rahm Emanuel, especially after Rahm Emanuel's father, Benjamin Emanuel was interviewed by the Hebrew daily Maariv in an article entitled Our Man in the White House , where in that interview Rahm Emanuel's father stated: Obviously, he will influence the President to be pro-Israel. Why shouldn't he do it? What is he, an Arab? He's not going to clean the floor of the White House. Palestinian American Ali Abunimah of Electronic Intifada , said Obamas appointment of Emanuel sent the signal he would not be taking more balanced, more objective, more realistic advice that could change the course from the disastrous Palestine-Israel policies of the Bush and Clinton administrations. however, actually i agree with your statement below, rahm emanuel's career has made him the best men on the best job, obama chose the right person on the right place. there's no one could do the best job to be obama's chief of staff than rahm emanuel. im glad we both agree on that yustam..:) well done obama From: yustamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ppiindia@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2008 7:02:51 AM Subject: [ppiindia] Re: Bekas prajurit Israel jadi Chief of Staff Obama *** if you see the head line of israel's news paper Our man in the white house it just show us a fear from israel. America is a free country all man which has been an america citizen have a right to serve their country. America is the country where all the people from all nation come to gather to make greatest america for their serve to humanity with their democracy. you know that obama is an africa, his father is a muslim, his mother is christian. So he came from better back ground that has made him as a man that american's believe to be their next president which could serve them better and contribute his foreign policy will be accepted by all nation around the world. To be a president is not easy, that man must have a best policy to make peace in the world that we live on. rahm immanuel is an american, of course he must serve himself to the country that has give him the right to live in america, not the country that he has left. so this is not about relationship between america and israel, this is about a career of a best man in america that he deserved it as his best job has been done. but i just see a fear from israel with the head line. salam --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com, carla annamarie kneefel carla_annamarie17@ ... wrote: well...i dont expect my self to say this but, obama has done a smart and strategic move when he picked rahm emanuel as his chief of staff, rahm emanuel is well known as a strong supporter of pro-israel, i guessed obama dont want his jewish friends and jewish supporter questioned his loyalty to israel. 75 % jewish in US are registered democrat, and american jewish are obama's financer and great supporters.. .., i think despite the controversy about israel, i think obama has made a clear stand for his foreign policy, that he will always stand with israel. and the love relationship between US and israel will still continually strong even during his administration. a good start. _ _ __ From: yustamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2008 9:37:40 PM Subject: [ppiindia] Re: Bekas prajurit Israel jadi Chief of Staff Obama Rahm Emmanul bukan orang baru di gedung putih, pada pemerintahan Bill clinton, dia sudah masuk gedung tersebut sebagai penasehat politik dan kebijakan presiden bill clinton. Jadi tidak ada yang aneh dengan Rahm Emmanuel, posoitiflah kalo karirnya meningkat, dalam lingkungan partai demokrat dia adalah congressman. Dia adalah teman baik Obama di partai. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com, phyllobates. terribilis
[ppiindia] Re: Bekas prajurit Israel jadi Chief of Staff Obama....
*** as you know well, that america has close relationship with israel since israel's start their proclamation to have a state in palestinian land. So it's not only the muslims that suffer from this action but christian too. The question is, why did they build their nation in the land that there is no relation with the suffering from nazi's action ? I think European and usa should give them the land as a point that they have to help the jewish. if you have a property then someone else take it from you with a brutality action, what do you say to that man ? now the eyes of the world has been awaken by jewish brutality in gaza, the world know what are they doing in gaza, they destroyed palestinian home and make palestinian homeless. but i think all of this problem is about politic, palestinian and israeli have to come to the point that they have solved their problem to have a peace in the land of divined with holly massage... even if obama doesn't pick rahm emanuel as chief of staff, america's still stand behind the jewish, as their lord in the middle east... salam, --- In ppiindia@yahoogroups.com, carla annamarie kneefel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well i think it's a big disappointment from many against-israel ppl that obama picked rahm emanuel as his chief of staff. (where rahm will be one of his closest political advisor including foreign affairs). here are the bio of rahm emanuel : his real name is Rahm Israel Emanuel, born in chicago, According to his father, his son is the namesake of Rahamim, a Lehi paramilitary group combatant who was killed. Rahm's surname was adopted by his family in 1933, after Rahm's paternal uncle, Emanuel Auerbach, was killed in a skirmish with Arabs in Jerusalem. Rahm Emanuel's father, the Jerusalem-born Benjamin M. Emanuel, is a pediatrician and former member of the paramilitary Irgun ( National Military Organization in the Land of Israel), was a militant Zionist group that operated in Palestine between 1931 and 1948. Rahm Emanuel was a civilian volunteer in the Israel Defense Forces during the 1991 Persian Gulf War. rahm emanuel's religion is jewish , he and his family is a member of Anshe Sholom B'nai Israel, a Modern Orthodox synagoge in Chicago. Many Arabs and Palestinians were angry over Obama's appointment of Rahm Emanuel, especially after Rahm Emanuel's father, Benjamin Emanuel was interviewed by the Hebrew daily Maariv in an article entitled Our Man in the White House , where in that interview Rahm Emanuel's father stated: Obviously, he will influence the President to be pro-Israel. Why shouldn't he do it? What is he, an Arab? He's not going to clean the floor of the White House. Palestinian American Ali Abunimah of Electronic Intifada , said Obama's appointment of Emanuel sent the signal he would not be taking more balanced, more objective, more realistic advice that could change the course from the disastrous Palestine-Israel policies of the Bush and Clinton administrations. however, actually i agree with your statement below, rahm emanuel's career has made him the best men on the best job, obama chose the right person on the right place. there's no one could do the best job to be obama's chief of staff than rahm emanuel. im glad we both agree on that yustam..:) well done obama From: yustamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ppiindia@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2008 7:02:51 AM Subject: [ppiindia] Re: Bekas prajurit Israel jadi Chief of Staff Obama *** if you see the head line of israel's news paper Our man in the white house it just show us a fear from israel. America is a free country all man which has been an america citizen have a right to serve their country. America is the country where all the people from all nation come to gather to make greatest america for their serve to humanity with their democracy. you know that obama is an africa, his father is a muslim, his mother is christian. So he came from better back ground that has made him as a man that american's believe to be their next president which could serve them better and contribute his foreign policy will be accepted by all nation around the world. To be a president is not easy, that man must have a best policy to make peace in the world that we live on. rahm immanuel is an american, of course he must serve himself to the country that has give him the right to live in america, not the country that he has left. so this is not about relationship between america and israel, this is about a career of a best man in america that he deserved it as his best job has been done. but i just see a fear from israel with the head line. salam --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com, carla annamarie kneefel carla_annamarie17@ ... wrote: well...i dont expect my self to say this but, obama has done a smart and strategic move when he picked rahm emanuel as his chief of staff, rahm
Re: [ppiindia] Re: Bekas prajurit Israel jadi Chief of Staff Obama....
Glad we both agree on rahm emanuel..yustam..:) From: yustamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ppiindia@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2008 8:46:27 PM Subject: [ppiindia] Re: Bekas prajurit Israel jadi Chief of Staff Obama *** as you know well, that america has close relationship with israel since israel's start their proclamation to have a state in palestinian land. So it's not only the muslims that suffer from this action but christian too. The question is, why did they build their nation in the land that there is no relation with the suffering from nazi's action ? I think European and usa should give them the land as a point that they have to help the jewish. if you have a property then someone else take it from you with a brutality action, what do you say to that man ? now the eyes of the world has been awaken by jewish brutality in gaza, the world know what are they doing in gaza, they destroyed palestinian home and make palestinian homeless. but i think all of this problem is about politic, palestinian and israeli have to come to the point that they have solved their problem to have a peace in the land of divined with holly massage... even if obama doesn't pick rahm emanuel as chief of staff, america's still stand behind the jewish, as their lord in the middle east... salam, --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com, carla annamarie kneefel carla_annamarie17@ ... wrote: well i think it's a big disappointment from many against-israel ppl that obama picked rahm emanuel as his chief of staff. (where rahm will be one of his closest political advisor including foreign affairs). here are the bio of rahm emanuel : his real name is Rahm Israel Emanuel, born in chicago, According to his father, his son is the namesake of Rahamim, a Lehi paramilitary group combatant who was killed. Rahm's surname was adopted by his family in 1933, after Rahm's paternal uncle, Emanuel Auerbach, was killed in a skirmish with Arabs in Jerusalem. Rahm Emanuel's father, the Jerusalem-born Benjamin M. Emanuel, is a pediatrician and former member of the paramilitary Irgun ( National Military Organization in the Land of Israel), was a militant Zionist group that operated in Palestine between 1931 and 1948. Rahm Emanuel was a civilian volunteer in the Israel Defense Forces during the 1991 Persian Gulf War. rahm emanuel's religion is jewish , he and his family is a member of Anshe Sholom B'nai Israel, a Modern Orthodox synagoge in Chicago. Many Arabs and Palestinians were angry over Obama's appointment of Rahm Emanuel, especially after Rahm Emanuel's father, Benjamin Emanuel was interviewed by the Hebrew daily Maariv in an article entitled Our Man in the White House , where in that interview Rahm Emanuel's father stated: Obviously, he will influence the President to be pro-Israel. Why shouldn't he do it? What is he, an Arab? He's not going to clean the floor of the White House. Palestinian American Ali Abunimah of Electronic Intifada , said Obama's appointment of Emanuel sent the signal he would not be taking more balanced, more objective, more realistic advice that could change the course from the disastrous Palestine-Israel policies of the Bush and Clinton administrations. however, actually i agree with your statement below, rahm emanuel's career has made him the best men on the best job, obama chose the right person on the right place. there's no one could do the best job to be obama's chief of staff than rahm emanuel. im glad we both agree on that yustam..:) well done obama _ _ __ From: yustamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2008 7:02:51 AM Subject: [ppiindia] Re: Bekas prajurit Israel jadi Chief of Staff Obama *** if you see the head line of israel's news paper Our man in the white house it just show us a fear from israel. America is a free country all man which has been an america citizen have a right to serve their country. America is the country where all the people from all nation come to gather to make greatest america for their serve to humanity with their democracy. you know that obama is an africa, his father is a muslim, his mother is christian. So he came from better back ground that has made him as a man that american's believe to be their next president which could serve them better and contribute his foreign policy will be accepted by all nation around the world. To be a president is not easy, that man must have a best policy to make peace in the world that we live on. rahm immanuel is an american, of course he must serve himself to the country that has give him the right to live in america, not the country that he has left. so this is not about relationship between america and israel, this is about a career of a best man in america that he deserved it as his best job has been done. but i just see a fear from israel
[ppiindia] Re: Bekas prajurit Israel jadi Chief of Staff Obama....
--- In ppiindia@yahoogroups.com, Satrio Arismunandar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Described in Israeli media as Our man in the White House Obama picks ex-Israeli soldier as chief of staff Dubai (AlArabiya.net, Agencies) U.S. President-elect Barack Obama has asked Illinois congressman and former soldier in the Israeli army, Rahm Emanuel to head his White House staff as he moves quickly to fill government jobs in his incoming administration. * Ya pasti lebih reliable pakai perwira canggih pasukan Israil yang biasa menang, daripada perwira Taliban yang sedikit sedikit kucar kacir...
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Rahm Emmanul bukan orang baru di gedung putih, pada pemerintahan Bill clinton, dia sudah masuk gedung tersebut sebagai penasehat politik dan kebijakan presiden bill clinton. Jadi tidak ada yang aneh dengan Rahm Emmanuel, posoitiflah kalo karirnya meningkat, dalam lingkungan partai demokrat dia adalah congressman. Dia adalah teman baik Obama di partai. --- In ppiindia@yahoogroups.com, phyllobates.terribilis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In ppiindia@yahoogroups.com, Satrio Arismunandar satrioarismunandar@ wrote: Described in Israeli media as Our man in the White House Obama picks ex-Israeli soldier as chief of staff Dubai (AlArabiya.net, Agencies) U.S. President-elect Barack Obama has asked Illinois congressman and former soldier in the Israeli army, Rahm Emanuel to head his White House staff as he moves quickly to fill government jobs in his incoming administration. * Ya pasti lebih reliable pakai perwira canggih pasukan Israil yang biasa menang, daripada perwira Taliban yang sedikit sedikit kucar kacir...
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well...i dont expect my self to say this but, obama has done a smart and strategic move when he picked rahm emanuel as his chief of staff, rahm emanuel is well known as a strong supporter of pro-israel, i guessed obama dont want his jewish friends and jewish supporter questioned his loyalty to israel. 75 % jewish in US are registered democrat, and american jewish are obama's financer and great supporters, i think despite the controversy about israel, i think obama has made a clear stand for his foreign policy, that he will always stand with israel. and the love relationship between US and israel will still continually strong even during his administration. a good start. From: yustamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ppiindia@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2008 9:37:40 PM Subject: [ppiindia] Re: Bekas prajurit Israel jadi Chief of Staff Obama Rahm Emmanul bukan orang baru di gedung putih, pada pemerintahan Bill clinton, dia sudah masuk gedung tersebut sebagai penasehat politik dan kebijakan presiden bill clinton. Jadi tidak ada yang aneh dengan Rahm Emmanuel, posoitiflah kalo karirnya meningkat, dalam lingkungan partai demokrat dia adalah congressman. Dia adalah teman baik Obama di partai. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com, phyllobates. terribilis phyllobates. terribilis@ ... wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com, Satrio Arismunandar satrioarismunandar @ wrote: Described in Israeli media as Our man in the White House Obama picks ex-Israeli soldier as chief of staff Dubai (AlArabiya.net, Agencies) U.S. President-elect Barack Obama has asked Illinois congressman and former soldier in the Israeli army, Rahm Emanuel to head his White House staff as he moves quickly to fill government jobs in his incoming administration. * Ya pasti lebih reliable pakai perwira canggih pasukan Israil yang biasa menang, daripada perwira Taliban yang sedikit sedikit kucar kacir... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Apakah ada larangan? - Original Message - From: carla annamarie kneefel To: ppiindia@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [ppiindia] Re: Bekas prajurit Israel jadi Chief of Staff Obama well...i dont expect my self to say this but, obama has done a smart and strategic move when he picked rahm emanuel as his chief of staff, rahm emanuel is well known as a strong supporter of pro-israel, i guessed obama dont want his jewish friends and jewish supporter questioned his loyalty to israel. 75 % jewish in US are registered democrat, and american jewish are obama's financer and great supporters, i think despite the controversy about israel, i think obama has made a clear stand for his foreign policy, that he will always stand with israel. and the love relationship between US and israel will still continually strong even during his administration. a good start. From: yustamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ppiindia@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2008 9:37:40 PM Subject: [ppiindia] Re: Bekas prajurit Israel jadi Chief of Staff Obama Rahm Emmanul bukan orang baru di gedung putih, pada pemerintahan Bill clinton, dia sudah masuk gedung tersebut sebagai penasehat politik dan kebijakan presiden bill clinton. Jadi tidak ada yang aneh dengan Rahm Emmanuel, posoitiflah kalo karirnya meningkat, dalam lingkungan partai demokrat dia adalah congressman. Dia adalah teman baik Obama di partai. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com, phyllobates. terribilis phyllobates. terribilis@ ... wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com, Satrio Arismunandar satrioarismunandar @ wrote: Described in Israeli media as Our man in the White House Obama picks ex-Israeli soldier as chief of staff Dubai (AlArabiya.net, Agencies) U.S. President-elect Barack Obama has asked Illinois congressman and former soldier in the Israeli army, Rahm Emanuel to head his White House staff as he moves quickly to fill government jobs in his incoming administration. * Ya pasti lebih reliable pakai perwira canggih pasukan Israil yang biasa menang, daripada perwira Taliban yang sedikit sedikit kucar kacir... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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*** if you see the head line of israel's news paper Our man in the white house it just show us a fear from israel. America is a free country all man which has been an america citizen have a right to serve their country. America is the country where all the people from all nation come to gather to make greatest america for their serve to humanity with their democracy. you know that obama is an africa, his father is a muslim, his mother is christian. So he came from better back ground that has made him as a man that american's believe to be their next president which could serve them better and contribute his foreign policy will be accepted by all nation around the world. To be a president is not easy, that man must have a best policy to make peace in the world that we live on. rahm immanuel is an american, of course he must serve himself to the country that has give him the right to live in america, not the country that he has left. so this is not about relationship between america and israel, this is about a career of a best man in america that he deserved it as his best job has been done. but i just see a fear from israel with the head line. salam --- In ppiindia@yahoogroups.com, carla annamarie kneefel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well...i dont expect my self to say this but, obama has done a smart and strategic move when he picked rahm emanuel as his chief of staff, rahm emanuel is well known as a strong supporter of pro-israel, i guessed obama dont want his jewish friends and jewish supporter questioned his loyalty to israel. 75 % jewish in US are registered democrat, and american jewish are obama's financer and great supporters, i think despite the controversy about israel, i think obama has made a clear stand for his foreign policy, that he will always stand with israel. and the love relationship between US and israel will still continually strong even during his administration. a good start. From: yustamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ppiindia@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2008 9:37:40 PM Subject: [ppiindia] Re: Bekas prajurit Israel jadi Chief of Staff Obama Rahm Emmanul bukan orang baru di gedung putih, pada pemerintahan Bill clinton, dia sudah masuk gedung tersebut sebagai penasehat politik dan kebijakan presiden bill clinton. Jadi tidak ada yang aneh dengan Rahm Emmanuel, posoitiflah kalo karirnya meningkat, dalam lingkungan partai demokrat dia adalah congressman. Dia adalah teman baik Obama di partai. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com, phyllobates. terribilis phyllobates. terribilis@ ... wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com, Satrio Arismunandar satrioarismunandar @ wrote: Described in Israeli media as Our man in the White House Obama picks ex-Israeli soldier as chief of staff Dubai (AlArabiya.net, Agencies) U.S. President-elect Barack Obama has asked Illinois congressman and former soldier in the Israeli army, Rahm Emanuel to head his White House staff as he moves quickly to fill government jobs in his incoming administration. * Ya pasti lebih reliable pakai perwira canggih pasukan Israil yang biasa menang, daripada perwira Taliban yang sedikit sedikit kucar kacir... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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nope... From: Sunny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ppiindia@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2008 11:05:38 PM Subject: Re: [ppiindia] Re: Bekas prajurit Israel jadi Chief of Staff Obama Apakah ada larangan? - Original Message - From: carla annamarie kneefel To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [ppiindia] Re: Bekas prajurit Israel jadi Chief of Staff Obama well...i dont expect my self to say this but, obama has done a smart and strategic move when he picked rahm emanuel as his chief of staff, rahm emanuel is well known as a strong supporter of pro-israel, i guessed obama dont want his jewish friends and jewish supporter questioned his loyalty to israel. 75 % jewish in US are registered democrat, and american jewish are obama's financer and great supporters.. .., i think despite the controversy about israel, i think obama has made a clear stand for his foreign policy, that he will always stand with israel. and the love relationship between US and israel will still continually strong even during his administration. a good start. _ _ __ From: yustamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2008 9:37:40 PM Subject: [ppiindia] Re: Bekas prajurit Israel jadi Chief of Staff Obama Rahm Emmanul bukan orang baru di gedung putih, pada pemerintahan Bill clinton, dia sudah masuk gedung tersebut sebagai penasehat politik dan kebijakan presiden bill clinton. Jadi tidak ada yang aneh dengan Rahm Emmanuel, posoitiflah kalo karirnya meningkat, dalam lingkungan partai demokrat dia adalah congressman. Dia adalah teman baik Obama di partai. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com, phyllobates. terribilis phyllobates. terribilis@ ... wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com, Satrio Arismunandar satrioarismunandar @ wrote: Described in Israeli media as Our man in the White House Obama picks ex-Israeli soldier as chief of staff Dubai (AlArabiya.net, Agencies) U.S. President-elect Barack Obama has asked Illinois congressman and former soldier in the Israeli army, Rahm Emanuel to head his White House staff as he moves quickly to fill government jobs in his incoming administration. * Ya pasti lebih reliable pakai perwira canggih pasukan Israil yang biasa menang, daripada perwira Taliban yang sedikit sedikit kucar kacir... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
