[ppiindia] Re: The government beat Me to it
hehehe, menurut saya sih tidak. IMHO masih ada bedanya antara 'blasphemy' dan 'making-fun'. Yang di bawah ini bisa dikategorikan sbg. making fun: sebetulnya inti pesan / the moral of the story-nya adalah mengeritik rumitnya regulasi birokrasi pemerintah, tingginya standar 'civil-society' yang ingin serba 'melindungi' berbagai hal: mulai dari lingkungan s/d minoritas, sehingga cukup merepotkan, dengan 'meminjam' kisah Noah, yang disajikan secara humorik. *** tahun 2007 kemarin ada film yang mirip komedi yang mungkin mirip dengan itu: Evan the Mighty http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0413099/plotsummary Isu yang di angkat sebetulnya adalah isu Lingkungan Hidup/Tata Ruang dengan inti pesan: agar di dalam perencanaan tata-kota ( dalam hal ini Washington ) disediakan juga ruang taman/park yang cukup untuk ruang-hidup flora fauna. Tapi untuk itu Tuhan memberi ilham kepada seorang anggota Konggres - yang tadinya Agnostik - yang diberinya misi mirip misinya Noah (menurut versi barat) : membuat kapal untuk menyelamatkan spesies-2 hewan. *** Kalau saya perhatikan pada media barat, tokoh-tokoh Biblical yang biasanya dianggap okey untuk di karikatur kan untuk membawa pesan: pesan kemanusiaan, pesan pelestarian lingkungan, dll dll - yang tujuannya bukan penghinaan, adalah tokoh- tokoh tertentu: biasanya: Noah Moses! ( Kebetulan kedua tokoh ini, baik menurut kisah Bible ataupun Quran digambarkan punya 'akses komunikasi langsung' dengan Tuhan/bisa 'bercakap-cakap' langsung secara 'interaktif' ) Tokoh-tokoh Biblical yang lain: Abraham, David, Solomon, Jesus, di samping tidak digambarkan punya 'jalur komunikasi interaktif' dengan Tuhan, juga hampir tidak mungkin menjadikan mereka sbg. figur karikatur tanpa memberi kesan sebagai penghinaan/blashpemy. IMHO, menurut standar barat-pun, it seems to be unwise untuk menjadikan tokoh-2 Biblical selain Noah Moses sebagai tokoh karikatur, apalagi tokoh Muhammad, nabinya orang Islam. ( ihsan hm )--- --- Nugroho Dewanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tulisan seperti ini apakah juga bisa disebut penodaan agama? :)) In the year 2008, the Lord came unto Noah, who was now living in the United States, and said, Once again, the earth has become wicked and over-populated, and I see the end of all flesh before me. Build another Ark and save 2 of every living thing along with a few good humans. He gave Noah the blueprints, saying, You have 6 months to build the Ark before I will start the unending rain for 40 days and 40 nights. Six months later, the Lord looked down and saw Noah weeping in his yard - but no Ark. Noah! He roared, I'm about to start the rain! Where is the Ark? Forgive me, Lord, begged Noah, but things have changed. I needed a building permit. I've been arguing with the inspector about the need for a sprinkler system. My neighbors claim that I've violated the neighborhood zoning laws by building the Ark in my yard and exceeding the height limitations. We had to go to the Development Appeal Board for a decision. Then the Department of Transportation demanded a bond be posted for the future costs of moving power lines and other overhead obstructions, to clear the passage for the Ark's move to the sea. I told them that the sea would be coming to us, but they would hear nothing of it. Getting the wood was another problem. There's a ban on cutting local trees in order to save the spotted owl. I tried to convince the environmentalists that I needed the wood to save the owls - but no go! When I started gathering the animals, an animal rights group sued me. They insisted that I was confining wild animals against their will. They argued the accommodations were too restrictive, and it was cruel and inhumane to put so many animals in a confined space. Then the EPA ruled that I couldn't build the Ark until they'd conducted an environmental impact study on your proposed flood. I'm still trying to resolve a complaint with the Human Rights Commission on how many minorities I'm supposed to hire for my building crew. Immigration and Naturalization a rechecking the green-card status of most of the people who want to work. The trades unions say I can't use my sons. They insist I have to hire only Union workers with Ark- building experience. To make matters worse, the IRS seized all my assets, claiming I'm trying to leave the country illegally with endangered species. So, forgive me, Lord, but it would take at least 10 years for me to finish this Ark. Suddenly the skies cleared, the sun began to shine, and a
Re: [ppiindia] Re: The government beat Me to it
wah iya saya terlewat nonton film evan the mighty. nanti saya cari dvdnya. blasphemy itu istilah yang sudah lama tak terdengar di negara maju. terakhir terdengar kalau tak salah pada abad pertengahan :)) At 12:12 PM 6/10/2008 +, you wrote: hehehe, menurut saya sih tidak. IMHO masih ada bedanya antara 'blasphemy' dan 'making-fun'. Yang di bawah ini bisa dikategorikan sbg. making fun: sebetulnya inti pesan / the moral of the story-nya adalah mengeritik rumitnya regulasi birokrasi pemerintah, tingginya standar 'civil-society' yang ingin serba 'melindungi' berbagai hal: mulai dari lingkungan s/d minoritas, sehingga cukup merepotkan, dengan 'meminjam' kisah Noah, yang disajikan secara humorik. *** tahun 2007 kemarin ada film yang mirip komedi yang mungkin mirip dengan itu: Evan the Mighty http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0413099/plotsummaryhttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0413099/plotsummary Isu yang di angkat sebetulnya adalah isu Lingkungan Hidup/Tata Ruang dengan inti pesan: agar di dalam perencanaan tata-kota ( dalam hal ini Washington ) disediakan juga ruang taman/park yang cukup untuk ruang-hidup flora fauna. Tapi untuk itu Tuhan memberi ilham kepada seorang anggota Konggres - yang tadinya Agnostik - yang diberinya misi mirip misinya Noah (menurut versi barat) : membuat kapal untuk menyelamatkan spesies-2 hewan. *** Kalau saya perhatikan pada media barat, tokoh-tokoh Biblical yang biasanya dianggap okey untuk di karikatur kan untuk membawa pesan: pesan kemanusiaan, pesan pelestarian lingkungan, dll dll - yang tujuannya bukan penghinaan, adalah tokoh- tokoh tertentu: biasanya: Noah Moses! ( Kebetulan kedua tokoh ini, baik menurut kisah Bible ataupun Quran digambarkan punya 'akses komunikasi langsung' dengan Tuhan/bisa 'bercakap-cakap' langsung secara 'interaktif' ) Tokoh-tokoh Biblical yang lain: Abraham, David, Solomon, Jesus, di samping tidak digambarkan punya 'jalur komunikasi interaktif' dengan Tuhan, juga hampir tidak mungkin menjadikan mereka sbg. figur karikatur tanpa memberi kesan sebagai penghinaan/blashpemy. IMHO, menurut standar barat-pun, it seems to be unwise untuk menjadikan tokoh-2 Biblical selain Noah Moses sebagai tokoh karikatur, apalagi tokoh Muhammad, nabinya orang Islam. ( ihsan hm )--- --- Nugroho Dewanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tulisan seperti ini apakah juga bisa disebut penodaan agama? :)) In the year 2008, the Lord came unto Noah, who was now living in the United States, and said, Once again, the earth has become wicked and over-populated, and I see the end of all flesh before me. Build another Ark and save 2 of every living thing along with a few good humans. He gave Noah the blueprints, saying, You have 6 months to build the Ark before I will start the unending rain for 40 days and 40 nights. Six months later, the Lord looked down and saw Noah weeping in his yard - but no Ark. Noah! He roared, I'm about to start the rain! Where is the Ark? Forgive me, Lord, begged Noah, but things have changed. I needed a building permit. I've been arguing with the inspector about the need for a sprinkler system. My neighbors claim that I've violated the neighborhood zoning laws by building the Ark in my yard and exceeding the height limitations. We had to go to the Development Appeal Board for a decision. Then the Department of Transportation demanded a bond be posted for the future costs of moving power lines and other overhead obstructions, to clear the passage for the Ark's move to the sea. I told them that the sea would be coming to us, but they would hear nothing of it. Getting the wood was another problem. There's a ban on cutting local trees in order to save the spotted owl. I tried to convince the environmentalists that I needed the wood to save the owls - but no go! When I started gathering the animals, an animal rights group sued me. They insisted that I was confining wild animals against their will. They argued the accommodations were too restrictive, and it was cruel and inhumane to put so many animals in a confined space. Then the EPA ruled that I couldn't build the Ark until they'd conducted an environmental impact study on your proposed flood. I'm still trying to resolve a complaint with the Human Rights Commission on how many minorities I'm supposed to hire for my building crew. Immigration and Naturalization a rechecking the green-card status of most of the people who want to work. The trades unions say I can't use my sons. They insist I have to hire only Union workers with Ark- building experience. To make matters worse, the IRS seized all my assets, claiming I'm trying to leave the country illegally with endangered species. So, forgive me, Lord, but it would take at least 10 years for me to finish this Ark. Suddenly the
