RE: Advice

[Peter Hart]

Hi John,

Building a Computer is easy and can be done by a 10 year old.  Putting
the right components together is the problem.
I have built my business on supplying my Clients with the Hardware and
Software that I have found by experience to be the most reliable.
I was repairing a Computer for a long time Friend after replacing the
faulty part I went on to clean out the Computer ,fans etc.  Taking out
the processor and memory and cleaning there contacts.  "why do you do
that" he said, "So that the Computer is more likely to not go faulty
again" I said. "But your doing yourself out of repeat business which you
can charge for" he said.  It is this kind of attitude that I find
appalling.
Sometimes I make mistakes and supply something new which then turns out
to be an unreliable product.  I always make sure that the Client is
recompensed.
I would expect that if your Client has a long time relationship with his
supplier, then the same would apply, so perhaps the best thing would be
to take his advice.
My experiences are not good at all with AMD.  I used to supply AMD to
one client in the Pentium One days and before and had little problem.
When the Pentium III came out I stated to get repeated motherboard
failures after about 18 months.  When the Pentium IV came out I stopped
supplying AMD to all my other Clients, but continued with this Client.
Every Computer failed.  So now I don't supply AMD at all.  As I said
before with Seagate versus Western Digital. The buck stops here so why
push my luck when experience tells me otherwise.

If you want to talk about the hardware for my advice than ring me on
01673 842 979.

Cheers

Peter
 

-Original Message-
From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On
Behalf Of John Weller
Sent: 17 November 2009 21:01
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: RE: Advice

Thanks Peter, my client has a local supplier which he will use but he is
expecting me to give him a spec to pass on to his supplier - I'm not
getting
my hands dirty building one .  I have no experience with large files
with
an SQL database like PostgreSQL.  The main questions are:  What is the
minimum processor spec?  From your reply it seems to be that a dual core
Pentium will do nicely.  Are there likely to be any problems if he goes
down
the AMD route?  The other is how much RAM will he need?  I don't want to
suggest 8Gb if 4 will be sufficient.

Regards

John Weller
01380 723235
07976 393631  

> -Original Message-
> From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com 
> [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Peter Hart
> Sent: 17 November 2009 20:08
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: RE: Advice
> 
> Hi John
> 
> If you need some help building a PC, I can probably get one 
> of my suppliers to supply you direct, and point you in the 
> direction as far as components, which advice, you can take or 
> leave as you wish.
> 
> On the subject of Windows 7,  I have put some machines into a 
> few of my contract clients for testing purposes.  One site 
> uses some very sophisticated stuff to provide parts diagrams, 
> part no's etc.  Written in Dot Net it is very resource 
> hungry. Running Windows XP it needs a minimum of a dual core 
> Pentium processor with a minimum of 2 Gig Ram.
> Under Windows 7 we have it running on a 4 year old Pentium IV 
> machine with 1 gig.  It actually runs but very slowly with 
> 512mb.  On the dual cores with 2 gig it flies, we have put 
> one on one of the branch counters with 3 screens attached and 
> they are extremely impressed.  I could build an old machine 
> up with Windows 7 for you to experiment with.
> 


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[OT] No, seriously, he said that!

[Publius Maximus]

http://bit.ly/2SPSug

- - -
BEIJING (Reuters) - President Barack Obama gave his sternest warning
yet about the need to contain rising U.S. deficits, saying on
Wednesday that if government debt were to pile up too much, it could
lead to a double-dip recession.
- - -

Imagine a binge-drinking alcoholic pontificating on the virtues of
staying sober. Imagine Bill Clinton giving a talk on marital fidelity.
Or Bin Laden opining about the value of religious tolerance.

That comes close to the effect of the President's new-found
appreciation for fiscal discipline on my ears.

I hear an echo of a recent presidential candidate reverberating eerily
in the background...

"Just words. Just speeches..."

Indeed!

- Publius

"It ought never to be forgotten, that a firm union of this country,
under an efficient government, will probably be an increasing object
of jealousy to more than one nation of Europe; and that enterprises to
subvert it will sometimes originate in the intrigues of foreign
powers, and will seldom fail to be patronized and abetted by some of
them. Its preservation, therefore ought in no case that can be
avoided, to be committed to the guardianship of any but those whose
situation will uniformly beget an immediate interest in the faithful
and vigilant performance of the trust." [Federalist Papers #59]

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VFP SQL subquery error

[Garry Bettle]

Hi Everyone,

Hope this email finds you all well - roll on the weekend.

I have a query that isn't working at the moment - it returns, "SQL:
Subquery is invalid"

The subquery works fine on it's own:

SELECT TOP 1 b.Cycle, b.DTime
FROM LPMHistory b
GROUP BY b.Cycle, b.DTime
WHERE b.DTime > CTOT( GETWORDNUM( JUSTSTEM( JUSTPATH( CURDIR())), 1) +
[T] + STUFF( GETWORDNUM( JUSTSTEM( JUSTPATH( CURDIR())), 2), 3, 0, [:])) -
180
ORDER BY b.Cycle, b.DTime

It returns a cursor:

Cycle Dtime
7125/09/2009 22:37:01

Now, > 1 record exist in LPMHistory with Cycle = 71 that I thought I could
fetch by wrapping the above SQL as so:

SELECT * FROM LPMHistory a
WHERE a.Cycle in ( SELECT TOP 1 b.Cycle, b.DTime FROM LPMHistory b GROUP
BY b.Cycle, b.DTime WHERE b.DTime > CTOT( GETWORDNUM( JUSTSTEM( JUSTPATH(
CURDIR())), 1) + [T] + STUFF( GETWORDNUM( JUSTSTEM( JUSTPATH( CURDIR())),
2), 3, 0, [:])) - 180 ORDER BY b.Cycle, b.DTime)

but this doesn't work.

Any ideas?

Many thanks!

Cheers,

Garry


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RE: VFP SQL subquery error

[Dave Crozier]

Gary,
You can only have one field returned in the where "sub select" (i.e the
right hand side) because you are comparing it to one field A.Cycle in the
right hand side.

Before giving a solution I need to get a feel for the data and EXACTLY what
you want to return. 

Do you have a unique PK that you can first extract in the sub query as a
single unique entity for each record and then and then extract the full
record for each entity in the main select. That is the most efficient way to
do it.

Eg, assuming the Unique key is called PK

Select *  ;
>From FileA ;
Where FileA.PK in (select all FileB.PK from FileA FileB where ) ;
Group by <.>

Dave Crozier

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From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf
Of Garry Bettle
Sent: 18 November 2009 15:23
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: VFP SQL subquery error

Hi Everyone,

Hope this email finds you all well - roll on the weekend.

I have a query that isn't working at the moment - it returns, "SQL:
Subquery is invalid"

The subquery works fine on it's own:

SELECT TOP 1 b.Cycle, b.DTime
FROM LPMHistory b
GROUP BY b.Cycle, b.DTime
WHERE b.DTime > CTOT( GETWORDNUM( JUSTSTEM( JUSTPATH( CURDIR())), 1) +
[T] + STUFF( GETWORDNUM( JUSTSTEM( JUSTPATH( CURDIR())), 2), 3, 0, [:])) -
180
ORDER BY b.Cycle, b.DTime

It returns a cursor:

Cycle Dtime
7125/09/2009 22:37:01

Now, > 1 record exist in LPMHistory with Cycle = 71 that I thought I could
fetch by wrapping the above SQL as so:

SELECT * FROM LPMHistory a
WHERE a.Cycle in ( SELECT TOP 1 b.Cycle, b.DTime FROM LPMHistory b GROUP
BY b.Cycle, b.DTime WHERE b.DTime > CTOT( GETWORDNUM( JUSTSTEM( JUSTPATH(
CURDIR())), 1) + [T] + STUFF( GETWORDNUM( JUSTSTEM( JUSTPATH( CURDIR())),
2), 3, 0, [:])) - 180 ORDER BY b.Cycle, b.DTime)

but this doesn't work.

Any ideas?

Many thanks!

Cheers,

Garry


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[NF] Visual Studio Mono Plugin

[Dave Crozier]

"Novell on Tuesday announced the release of Mono Tools for Visual Studio, a
Visual Studio 2008 add-in that enables Windows-based developers to create
.NET applications for Linux, Unix and Mac OS X. The solution promises to
greatly simplify cross-platform .NET development, by allowing Visual Studio
developers to use the same tooling, interface, libraries and resources for
cross-platform development that they use for traditional .NET coding."

http://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2009/11/11/mono-tools-plug-in-for-v
isual-studio.aspx

or

http://tinyurl.com/ye9rhhv

Dave Crozier




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Re: VFP SQL subquery error

[Garry Bettle]

Never mind ... please move along... nothing to see here...

The Oracle DBA that I work along side at work solved my problem:

SELECT * FROM LPMHistory a WHERE a.Cycle in
( SELECT TOP 1 b.Cycle FROM LPMHistory b GROUP BY b.Cycle, b.DTime WHERE
b.DTime > CTOT( GETWORDNUM( JUSTSTEM( JUSTPATH( CURDIR())), 1) + [T] +
STUFF( GETWORDNUM( JUSTSTEM( JUSTPATH( CURDIR())), 2), 3, 0, [:])) - 180
ORDER BY b.Cycle, b.DTime)

G.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 15:23, Garry Bettle  wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> Hope this email finds you all well - roll on the weekend.
>
> I have a query that isn't working at the moment - it returns, "SQL:
> Subquery is invalid"
>
> The subquery works fine on it's own:
>
> SELECT TOP 1 b.Cycle, b.DTime
> FROM LPMHistory b
> GROUP BY b.Cycle, b.DTime
> WHERE b.DTime > CTOT( GETWORDNUM( JUSTSTEM( JUSTPATH( CURDIR())), 1) +
> [T] + STUFF( GETWORDNUM( JUSTSTEM( JUSTPATH( CURDIR())), 2), 3, 0, [:])) -
> 180
> ORDER BY b.Cycle, b.DTime
>
> It returns a cursor:
>
> Cycle Dtime
> 7125/09/2009 22:37:01
>
> Now, > 1 record exist in LPMHistory with Cycle = 71 that I thought I could
> fetch by wrapping the above SQL as so:
>
> SELECT * FROM LPMHistory a
> WHERE a.Cycle in ( SELECT TOP 1 b.Cycle, b.DTime FROM LPMHistory b
> GROUP BY b.Cycle, b.DTime WHERE b.DTime > CTOT( GETWORDNUM( JUSTSTEM(
> JUSTPATH( CURDIR())), 1) + [T] + STUFF( GETWORDNUM( JUSTSTEM( JUSTPATH(
> CURDIR())), 2), 3, 0, [:])) - 180 ORDER BY b.Cycle, b.DTime)
>
> but this doesn't work.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Many thanks!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Garry
>


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RE: Not Getting Mail

[Kent Belan]

Thanks Ed,
I am getting Profox emails again !!

Life is good,
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[ADMIN] test 123

[MB Software Solutions, LLC]

Got a message saying I was deactivated, so testing this to see if true!

-- 
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RE: [ADMIN] test 123

[Richard Kaye]

C'mon, Mike... Do you really need an email from the list to tell you you're 
deactivated... 

rk

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Got a message saying I was deactivated, so testing this to see if true!

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Re: Advice

[Leland F. Jackson, CPA]

AMD cpus seem to be about the same as intel cups, so far as 
reliability is concerned.  Just about all the proprietary 
computer manufacturers like Dell, HP, Gateway, etc offer AMD 
computers in their lineup, so I would think AMD is OK.

AMD has not been as financial successful as Intel over the 
last four or five years, but AMD has recently settled a 
lawsuit against intel, where AMD agreed to drop its lawsuit 
against intel, and Intel agreed to pay AMD 1.25 billion, 
plus eliminate some of its more monopolistic practices.  The 
methods used by Intel to compete with other manufacturers 
that produce computer processor reminds me of Microsoft.  LOL

http://www.etaiwannews.com/etn/news_content.php?id=1110340&lang=eng_news

or

http://tinyurl.com/yaa2syo

Regards,

LelandJ



On 11/17/2009 02:53 PM, John Weller wrote:
> Thanks Peter, my client has a local supplier which he will use but he is
> expecting me to give him a spec to pass on to his supplier - I'm not getting
> my hands dirty building one.  I have no experience with large files with
> an SQL database like PostgreSQL.  The main questions are:  What is the
> minimum processor spec?  From your reply it seems to be that a dual core
> Pentium will do nicely.  Are there likely to be any problems if he goes down
> the AMD route?  The other is how much RAM will he need?  I don't want to
> suggest 8Gb if 4 will be sufficient.
>
> Regards
>
> John Weller
> 01380 723235
> 07976 393631
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com
>> [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Peter Hart
>> Sent: 17 November 2009 20:08
>> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
>> Subject: RE: Advice
>>
>> Hi John
>>
>> If you need some help building a PC, I can probably get one
>> of my suppliers to supply you direct, and point you in the
>> direction as far as components, which advice, you can take or
>> leave as you wish.
>>
>> On the subject of Windows 7,  I have put some machines into a
>> few of my contract clients for testing purposes.  One site
>> uses some very sophisticated stuff to provide parts diagrams,
>> part no's etc.  Written in Dot Net it is very resource
>> hungry. Running Windows XP it needs a minimum of a dual core
>> Pentium processor with a minimum of 2 Gig Ram.
>> Under Windows 7 we have it running on a 4 year old Pentium IV
>> machine with 1 gig.  It actually runs but very slowly with
>> 512mb.  On the dual cores with 2 gig it flies, we have put
>> one on one of the branch counters with 3 screens attached and
>> they are extremely impressed.  I could build an old machine
>> up with Windows 7 for you to experiment with.
>>
>
>
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Re: Advice

[Leland F. Jackson, CPA]

Whoops, here is a good link:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10396188-92.html

Regards,

LelandJ


On 11/18/2009 10:23 AM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> AMD cpus seem to be about the same as intel cups, so far as
> reliability is concerned.  Just about all the proprietary
> computer manufacturers like Dell, HP, Gateway, etc offer AMD
> computers in their lineup, so I would think AMD is OK.
>
> AMD has not been as financial successful as Intel over the
> last four or five years, but AMD has recently settled a
> lawsuit against intel, where AMD agreed to drop its lawsuit
> against intel, and Intel agreed to pay AMD 1.25 billion,
> plus eliminate some of its more monopolistic practices.  The
> methods used by Intel to compete with other manufacturers
> that produce computer processor reminds me of Microsoft.  LOL
>
> http://www.etaiwannews.com/etn/news_content.php?id=1110340&lang=eng_news
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yaa2syo
>
> Regards,
>
> LelandJ
>
>
>
> On 11/17/2009 02:53 PM, John Weller wrote:
>> Thanks Peter, my client has a local supplier which he will use but he is
>> expecting me to give him a spec to pass on to his supplier - I'm not getting
>> my hands dirty building one.  I have no experience with large files with
>> an SQL database like PostgreSQL.  The main questions are:  What is the
>> minimum processor spec?  From your reply it seems to be that a dual core
>> Pentium will do nicely.  Are there likely to be any problems if he goes down
>> the AMD route?  The other is how much RAM will he need?  I don't want to
>> suggest 8Gb if 4 will be sufficient.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> John Weller
>> 01380 723235
>> 07976 393631
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com
>>> [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Peter Hart
>>> Sent: 17 November 2009 20:08
>>> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
>>> Subject: RE: Advice
>>>
>>> Hi John
>>>
>>> If you need some help building a PC, I can probably get one
>>> of my suppliers to supply you direct, and point you in the
>>> direction as far as components, which advice, you can take or
>>> leave as you wish.
>>>
>>> On the subject of Windows 7,  I have put some machines into a
>>> few of my contract clients for testing purposes.  One site
>>> uses some very sophisticated stuff to provide parts diagrams,
>>> part no's etc.  Written in Dot Net it is very resource
>>> hungry. Running Windows XP it needs a minimum of a dual core
>>> Pentium processor with a minimum of 2 Gig Ram.
>>> Under Windows 7 we have it running on a 4 year old Pentium IV
>>> machine with 1 gig.  It actually runs but very slowly with
>>> 512mb.  On the dual cores with 2 gig it flies, we have put
>>> one on one of the branch counters with 3 screens attached and
>>> they are extremely impressed.  I could build an old machine
>>> up with Windows 7 for you to experiment with.
>>>
>>
>>
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RE: [ADMIN] test 123

[Tracy Pearson]

Did it have an attachment on it. That's been a recent scare tactic theme of
attempts to spread a virus.



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Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:17 AM

Got a message saying I was deactivated, so testing this to see if true!

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Re: Not Getting Mail

[Vincent Teachout]

Kent Belan wrote:
> Thanks Ed,
> I am getting Profox emails again !!
>   

Ditto.  Thanks!

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No emails

[Nicholas Geti]

I got a message that my account was deactivated due to bounced messages. I 
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RE: Advice

[John Weller]

Hi Leland,

Thanks very much for your help.  I'm going to experiment with an old PC but
will definitely over-spec it!  I'll go for 4Gb at first but make sure the
CPU will support 16.

Thanks again.

John Weller
01380 723235
07976 393631  

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> From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com 
> [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Leland F. 
> Jackson, CPA
> Sent: 17 November 2009 23:26
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: Advice
> 
> Postgresql is a very efficient database and will run using 
> scant amounts of memory and cpu power in a satisfactory 
> manner with the right indexes.  Postgresql was originally 
> developed for UNIX, and it will perform much better in a Mac, 
> Linux, or Unix environment than under windows.  It has been 
> ported to window, but Postgresql's root are in UNIX.
> 
> If the Postgresql database were running under a Mac, Linux, 
> or Unix environment, you could access it locally using a 
> socket connection from your windows computer.  It can also be 
> accessed over TCP/IP remotely.  Postgresql default 
> configuration after an install runs over a socket connection 
> as localhost, so you would need to change settings in the 
> postgresql.conf file to allow access remotely via 
> socket/tcp/ip or remotely using tcp/ip.
> 
> Its been some time since I connected to Postgresql using VFP, 
> but I wrote a simple VFP application some years ago to do 
> inserts, deletes, updates, and select that worked very well 
> using Postgresql's ODBC driver to access the postgresql 
> database on a Linux server from windows XP Pro clients.  The 
> Postgresql folks do a good job of keeping their ODBC drivers 
> fresh, so all you would need to do is find and install the 
> Postgresql ODBC driver on the windows clients, and you should 
> be good to go.
> 
> If you decide to use the default configuration running 
> Postgresql under windows 7 as localhost, the critical path 
> for the system spec. would probably be satisfying window 7 
> hunger for plenty of resources.  LOL
> 
> You could run Postgresql in Ubuntu Linux, for example, and 
> have your window 7 clients hosted in the Linux box by 
> Virtualbox, (eg virtualization), so that everything is on the 
> same computer.  If I went this way, I would be sure the 
> motherboard and cpu supported the new virtualization features 
> offered in todays motherboards and cpus and had enough 
> memory.  Also, I would over-spec then new computer; because, 
> after you have things up and running you are like to find new 
> was to use the computer and Postgresql.
> 
> So far as memory is concerned, I would start with 4gb or 
> less, and add additional memory if needed, but I would be 
> sure the motherboard supported at least 16 gb of memory. 
> Its hard to come up with a minimum computer configuration to 
> run Postgresql; because, there are too many variables that 
> come into play.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> LelandJ
> 
> 
>


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[OT] Obama 'probably won't read' Palin's book; AP devotes 11 reporters to debunking it

[Publius Maximus]

Naturally, President Obama -- the epitome of open-minded
thoughtfulness -- won't read Palin's book:

http://bit.ly/1WsQ1p

But he doesn't have to because the state-run media is doing it's
opposition research for him:

http://bit.ly/4vz5tX

Not quite as bad as Wolf Blitzer "fact checking" an SNL satire piece
but ... 11 reporters to "fact check" one flimsy political memoir?!

Even I read President Little Big Man's books---carefully and with
great interest, in fact.

Where was the "watchdog" media to fact-check that steaming pile of
Ayers-breathed political mythology?

- Publius

"It ought never to be forgotten, that a firm union of this country,
under an efficient government, will probably be an increasing object
of jealousy to more than one nation of Europe; and that enterprises to
subvert it will sometimes originate in the intrigues of foreign
powers, and will seldom fail to be patronized and abetted by some of
them. Its preservation, therefore ought in no case that can be
avoided, to be committed to the guardianship of any but those whose
situation will uniformly beget an immediate interest in the faithful
and vigilant performance of the trust." [Federalist Papers #59]

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Re: [OT] No, seriously, he said that!

[Michael Madigan]

How do the Chinese keep a straight face?  They must be biting their lip.

--- On Wed, 11/18/09, Publius Maximus  wrote:

> From: Publius Maximus 
> Subject: [OT] No, seriously, he said that!
> To: "ProFox Email List" 
> Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 10:18 AM
> http://bit.ly/2SPSug
> 
> - - -
> BEIJING (Reuters) - President Barack Obama gave his
> sternest warning
> yet about the need to contain rising U.S. deficits, saying
> on
> Wednesday that if government debt were to pile up too much,
> it could
> lead to a double-dip recession.
> - - -
> 
> Imagine a binge-drinking alcoholic pontificating on the
> virtues of
> staying sober. Imagine Bill Clinton giving a talk on
> marital fidelity.
> Or Bin Laden opining about the value of religious
> tolerance.
> 
> That comes close to the effect of the President's
> new-found
> appreciation for fiscal discipline on my ears.
> 
> I hear an echo of a recent presidential candidate
> reverberating eerily
> in the background...
> 
> "Just words. Just speeches..."
> 
> Indeed!
> 
> - Publius
> 
> "It ought never to be forgotten, that a firm union of this
> country,
> under an efficient government, will probably be an
> increasing object
> of jealousy to more than one nation of Europe; and that
> enterprises to
> subvert it will sometimes originate in the intrigues of
> foreign
> powers, and will seldom fail to be patronized and abetted
> by some of
> them. Its preservation, therefore ought in no case that can
> be
> avoided, to be committed to the guardianship of any but
> those whose
> situation will uniformly beget an immediate interest in the
> faithful
> and vigilant performance of the trust." [Federalist Papers
> #59]
> 
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Re: [OT] No, seriously, he said that!

[Publius Maximus]

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Michael Madigan  wrote:

> How do the Chinese keep a straight face?  They must be biting their lip.
>

They are notoriously good poker players. They are playing Obama for
the useful idiot he really is, no matter what all those New York Times
O-cultists say about his alleged intelligence.

I've never seen a case of cognitive dissonance quite as impressive as
Obama's straight-faced lecture about deficit spending. It's his
straight face that we ought to be worried about.

- Publius

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Re: Very OT: Seeking people familiar with the culture/language of India [OT]

[Pete Theisen]

Pete Theisen wrote:

>> I'm looking for, pretty much, exactly what I said: someone who is familiar 
>> with the cultures and languages of India.
> You are right, it is [OT]. The culture of India is outsourcing US jobs. 
> That and doing your toilet business in the street right in front of 
> everybody, who won't seem to notice. Supposedly the Indians speak 
> English, although with an unfathomable accent.
> 
> Why don't you just get an H1B guy in for a few weeks and intern with 
> him? Nearest temp agency can probably fix you right up. May even be able 
> to do the whole job here.

Hi Joel,

If you can wait 5 years, though:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?sid=aErNiP_V4RLc&pid=20601109

"The government has a goal of eliminating open defecation by 2012." 
Meanwhile, "more than half of India’s 203 million households lack what 
Western societies consider a necessity: a toilet."

Hard to say how this will be accomplished. "Annual per-capita income 
more than doubled to 24,295 rupees ($468) in the seven years ended on 
March 31, 2008, before the full force of the financial meltdown kicked in."

Annual income of $468 per year, before the current recession!
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Re: Advice

[Paul Hill]

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA
 wrote:
> AMD cpus seem to be about the same as intel cups, so far as
> reliability is concerned.  Just about all the proprietary
> computer manufacturers like Dell, HP, Gateway, etc offer AMD
> computers in their lineup, so I would think AMD is OK.

Generally:

Intel = more powerful
AMD = cheaper

Take your choice!  I have no problem with AMD CPUs, but the Intel Core
series are very nice...

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Re: [OT] No, seriously, he said that!

[Michael Madigan]

He's a narcissist and a liar. 

--- On Wed, 11/18/09, Publius Maximus  wrote:

> From: Publius Maximus 
> Subject: Re: [OT] No, seriously, he said that!
> To: "ProFox Email List" 
> Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 12:47 PM
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:39 PM,
> Michael Madigan 
> wrote:
> 
> > How do the Chinese keep a straight face?  They must
> be biting their lip.
> >
> 
> They are notoriously good poker players. They are playing
> Obama for
> the useful idiot he really is, no matter what all those New
> York Times
> O-cultists say about his alleged intelligence.
> 
> I've never seen a case of cognitive dissonance quite as
> impressive as
> Obama's straight-faced lecture about deficit spending. It's
> his
> straight face that we ought to be worried about.
> 
> - Publius
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Re: [OT] Obama 'probably won't read' Palin's book; AP devotes 11 reporters to debunking it

[Michael Madigan]

If it's not on a teleprompter, he ain't reading it.

--- On Wed, 11/18/09, Publius Maximus  wrote:

> From: Publius Maximus 
> Subject: [OT] Obama 'probably won't read' Palin's book; AP devotes 11  
> reporters to debunking it
> To: "ProFox Email List" 
> Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 12:36 PM
> Naturally, President Obama -- the
> epitome of open-minded
> thoughtfulness -- won't read Palin's book:
> 
> http://bit.ly/1WsQ1p
> 
> But he doesn't have to because the state-run media is doing
> it's
> opposition research for him:
> 
> http://bit.ly/4vz5tX
> 
> Not quite as bad as Wolf Blitzer "fact checking" an SNL
> satire piece
> but ... 11 reporters to "fact check" one flimsy political
> memoir?!
> 
> Even I read President Little Big Man's books---carefully
> and with
> great interest, in fact.
> 
> Where was the "watchdog" media to fact-check that steaming
> pile of
> Ayers-breathed political mythology?
> 
> - Publius
> 
> "It ought never to be forgotten, that a firm union of this
> country,
> under an efficient government, will probably be an
> increasing object
> of jealousy to more than one nation of Europe; and that
> enterprises to
> subvert it will sometimes originate in the intrigues of
> foreign
> powers, and will seldom fail to be patronized and abetted
> by some of
> them. Its preservation, therefore ought in no case that can
> be
> avoided, to be committed to the guardianship of any but
> those whose
> situation will uniformly beget an immediate interest in the
> faithful
> and vigilant performance of the trust." [Federalist Papers
> #59]
> 
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Re: [OT] No, seriously, he said that!

[Stephen Russell]

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Michael Madigan  wrote:
> He's a narcissist and a liar.


Thank God they didn't get to publish You-Tube videos of Obama trying
to go through the locked door.

;->

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Re: [OT] No, seriously, he said that!

[Pete Theisen]

Stephen Russell wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Michael Madigan  
> wrote:
>> He's a narcissist and a liar.
> 
> 
> Thank God they didn't get to publish You-Tube videos of Obama trying
> to go through the locked door.
> 
> ;->
> 

Hi Stephen,

Seems "they" got to publish a video of Bush doing just that, however.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHjIb6trxBI

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Re: [OT] No, seriously, he said that!

[Publius Maximus]

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Stephen Russell  wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Michael Madigan  
> wrote:
>> He's a narcissist and a liar.
> 
>
> Thank God they didn't get to publish You-Tube videos of Obama trying
> to go through the locked door.

http://1stnews.org/358/obama-walks-into-window/

- Publius

>
> ;->
>
> --
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> Sr. Production Systems Programmer
> SQL Server DBA
> Web and Winform Development
> Independent Contractor
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>
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RE: [NF] Visual Studio Mono Plugin

[David Smith]

Thanks for sharing this... I've done some testing w/ Mono and was looking
forward to this release. 
Dave

David Smith
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From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Crozier
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:52 AM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: [NF] Visual Studio Mono Plugin

"Novell on Tuesday announced the release of Mono Tools for Visual Studio, a
Visual Studio 2008 add-in that enables Windows-based developers to create
.NET applications for Linux, Unix and Mac OS X. The solution promises to
greatly simplify cross-platform .NET development, by allowing Visual Studio
developers to use the same tooling, interface, libraries and resources for
cross-platform development that they use for traditional .NET coding."

http://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2009/11/11/mono-tools-plug-in-for-v
isual-studio.aspx

or

http://tinyurl.com/ye9rhhv

Dave Crozier




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Re: [NF] Visual Studio Mono Plugin

[Publius Maximus]

And check this out...

http://monotouch.net/

- Publius

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:29 PM, David Smith  wrote:
> Thanks for sharing this... I've done some testing w/ Mono and was looking
> forward to this release.
> Dave
>
> David Smith
> Systems Administrator
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> (585) 352-6600 ext.1730
> dsm...@doandelivers.com
> www.upstatedigitools.com
>
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>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Dave Crozier
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:52 AM
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: [NF] Visual Studio Mono Plugin
>
> "Novell on Tuesday announced the release of Mono Tools for Visual Studio, a
> Visual Studio 2008 add-in that enables Windows-based developers to create
> .NET applications for Linux, Unix and Mac OS X. The solution promises to
> greatly simplify cross-platform .NET development, by allowing Visual Studio
> developers to use the same tooling, interface, libraries and resources for
> cross-platform development that they use for traditional .NET coding."
>
> http://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2009/11/11/mono-tools-plug-in-for-v
> isual-studio.aspx
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ye9rhhv
>
> Dave Crozier
>
>
>
>
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[OT] Not sure how to pronounce Azure

[Stephen Russell]

The M$ in the cloud thingy.





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Re: [NF] Visual Studio Mono Plugin

[Grigore Dolghin]

3999 usd?

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Publius Maximus
 wrote:
> And check this out...
>
> http://monotouch.net/
>
> - Publius
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:29 PM, David Smith  wrote:
>> Thanks for sharing this... I've done some testing w/ Mono and was looking
>> forward to this release.
>> Dave
>>
>> David Smith
>> Systems Administrator
>> Doan Family of Dealerships
>> (585) 352-6600 ext.1730
>> dsm...@doandelivers.com
>> www.upstatedigitools.com
>>
>> This message may contain confidential and/or proprietary information, and is
>> intended for the person/entity for whom it was originally addressed. Any use
>> by others is strictly prohibited
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On
>> Behalf Of Dave Crozier
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:52 AM
>> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
>> Subject: [NF] Visual Studio Mono Plugin
>>
>> "Novell on Tuesday announced the release of Mono Tools for Visual Studio, a
>> Visual Studio 2008 add-in that enables Windows-based developers to create
>> .NET applications for Linux, Unix and Mac OS X. The solution promises to
>> greatly simplify cross-platform .NET development, by allowing Visual Studio
>> developers to use the same tooling, interface, libraries and resources for
>> cross-platform development that they use for traditional .NET coding."
>>
>> http://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2009/11/11/mono-tools-plug-in-for-v
>> isual-studio.aspx
>>
>> or
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/ye9rhhv
>>
>> Dave Crozier
>>
>>
>>
>>
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RE: VFP SQL subquery error

[Garry Bettle]

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 15:47:57, "Dave Crozier" wrote:
> Gary,
> You can only have one field returned in the where "sub select" (i.e the
> right hand side) because you are comparing it to one field A.Cycle in the
> right hand side.
>
> Before giving a solution I need to get a feel for the data and EXACTLY what
> you want to return.
>
> Do you have a unique PK that you can first extract in the sub query as a
> single unique entity for each record and then and then extract the full
> record for each entity in the main select. That is the most efficient way to
> do it.
>
> Eg, assuming the Unique key is called PK
>
> Select *  ;
> >From FileA ;
> Where FileA.PK in (select all FileB.PK from FileA FileB where ) ;
> Group by <.>
>
> Dave Crozier

Hi Dave,

How are you?  Hope you're doing well.

Many thanks for the reply.

> You can only have one field returned in the where "sub select" (i.e the
> right hand side) because you are comparing it to one field A.Cycle in the
> right hand side.

That was indeed my problem.

Cheers,

Garry

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Re: [NF] Visual Studio Mono Plugin

[Stephen Russell]

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Grigore Dolghin  wrote:
> 3999 usd?
-

Novel was never cheap.  Get over it.  hahahahaha You thought that you
were getting free beer?

Just look at it as get the personal version to get yourself through
dev.  Pay for the middle one for test, 1000 usd and if there looks to
be a lot of interest you then up the anti to enterprise for everyone
world wide.

You make an app for .99 usd and 5000 people download it the first week
because of your marketing you are ahead.  If someone in that first
5000 helps you go viral you win big time.




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RE: [OT] Another crappy enviro-car death trap.

[Jim Felton]

I think I'll get the table.
Jim

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Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:12 PM
To: mikes horse racing
Subject: [OT] Another crappy enviro-car death trap.

The video is hilarious.  

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2009/11/another_crappy.html#comments

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Re: [NF] Visual Studio Mono Plugin

[Publius Maximus]

The idea that it is somehow a sin to charge for a good software
product and the Constitutional right of Everyman to Every Other Man's
source code at no cost is one of many factors bringing down the
civilized order of society these days. Why software, as distinct from
any other kind of product one might create, "must" be free as a matter
of socio-political dogma I never have quite gotten.

I don't mind if people want to provide open source software, and am
not opposed to it in principal -- one should be free to give one's
stuff away. There are some things I am working on that I simply don't
have profit motive to work on, so I'm open sourcing them. I just don't
like "viral" open source licenses that moralize about the matter. I
like SQLite's license best of all:

**May you do good and not evil.
**May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others.
**May you share freely, never taking more than you give.

The "programmer as professional mendicant and servant of the
collective good" attitude of most goose-stepping open source software
zealots -- especially the hard-core copylefties at FSF under Comrade
Richard Stallman's premeirship -- is depressing wages and making
overseas talent look a lot more attractive.

IMHO, it's great for behomoths like Oracle, IBM, Novell, even MS, but
open source makes it very hard for smaller shops to thrive on their
work. I was recently looking into an Ada compiler (don't ask, I won't
tell) and you either have to be big enough to pay huge bucks for a
commercial version, or swallow the whole GPL 3.0, and every viral hook
it sinks in your digital flesh. A friend of mine in the compiler
business has been decimated by the trend. It's designed to force
medium players out, and keep smaller players down, basically.

Same principle with do-gooder con games like cap and trade. Is it any
wonder Enron and Goldman Sachs love the idea?

Thanks, Dick (Stallman). All you Dicks, in fact. :)

- Publius

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Stephen Russell  wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Grigore Dolghin  wrote:
>> 3999 usd?
> -
>
> Novel was never cheap.  Get over it.  hahahahaha You thought that you
> were getting free beer?
>
> Just look at it as get the personal version to get yourself through
> dev.  Pay for the middle one for test, 1000 usd and if there looks to
> be a lot of interest you then up the anti to enterprise for everyone
> world wide.
>
> You make an app for .99 usd and 5000 people download it the first week
> because of your marketing you are ahead.  If someone in that first
> 5000 helps you go viral you win big time.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Stephen Russell
> Sr. Production Systems Programmer
> SQL Server DBA
> Web and Winform Development
> Independent Contractor
> Memphis TN
>
> 901.246-0159
>
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Re: [OT] Another crappy enviro-car death trap.

[Publius Maximus]

I was surprised it was chipped so badly in the collision.

- Publius

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Jim Felton  wrote:
> I think I'll get the table.
> Jim
>
> -Original Message-
> From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf
> Of Michael Madigan
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:12 PM
> To: mikes horse racing
> Subject: [OT] Another crappy enviro-car death trap.
>
> The video is hilarious.
>
> http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2009/11/another_crappy.html#comments
>
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Re: [NF] Visual Studio Mono Plugin

[MB Software Solutions, LLC]

Stephen Russell wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Grigore Dolghin  wrote:
>> 3999 usd?
> -
> 
> Novel was never cheap.  Get over it.  hahahahaha You thought that you
> were getting free beer?
> 
> Just look at it as get the personal version to get yourself through
> dev.  Pay for the middle one for test, 1000 usd and if there looks to
> be a lot of interest you then up the anti to enterprise for everyone
> world wide.
> 
> You make an app for .99 usd and 5000 people download it the first week
> because of your marketing you are ahead.  If someone in that first
> 5000 helps you go viral you win big time.


All true but the #s you have to spend to get to that point are NOT 
cheap.  The marketing will cost you some serious bucks, imo, if it is to 
be successful...unless it's absolutely cool and goes viral on its own.

-- 
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MB Software Solutions, LLC
President, Chief Software Architect
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Re: [NF] Visual Studio Mono Plugin

[Stephen Russell]

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:45 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC
 wrote:
> Stephen Russell wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Grigore Dolghin  wrote:
>>> 3999 usd?
>> -
>>
>> Novel was never cheap.  Get over it.  hahahahaha You thought that you
>> were getting free beer?
>>
>> Just look at it as get the personal version to get yourself through
>> dev.  Pay for the middle one for test, 1000 usd and if there looks to
>> be a lot of interest you then up the anti to enterprise for everyone
>> world wide.
>>
>> You make an app for .99 usd and 5000 people download it the first week
>> because of your marketing you are ahead.  If someone in that first
>> 5000 helps you go viral you win big time.
>
>
> All true but the #s you have to spend to get to that point are NOT
> cheap.  The marketing will cost you some serious bucks, imo, if it is to
> be successful...unless it's absolutely cool and goes viral on its own.


You are saying that a capital investment of 4000 is a deal breaker for
your consulting empire?

Have you ever dealt with Novel before?  "Only 4000" is a slice of
ultra cheap for them for worldwide unlimited usage.


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Sr. Production Systems Programmer
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Independent Contractor
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Re: [OT] Another crappy enviro-car death trap.

[Michael Madigan]

The best thing is that the death rate will go way up for environmentalists and 
Democrats!

I can't wait to get Rob Reiner, Lori David and Ed Begley Jr. on a California 
Highway in one of these things.

--- On Wed, 11/18/09, Publius Maximus  wrote:

> From: Publius Maximus 
> Subject: Re: [OT] Another crappy enviro-car death trap.
> To: "ProFox Email List" 
> Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 4:13 PM
> I was surprised it was chipped so
> badly in the collision.
> 
> - Publius
> 
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Jim Felton 
> wrote:
> > I think I'll get the table.
> > Jim
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: profox-boun...@leafe.com
> [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com]
> On Behalf
> > Of Michael Madigan
> > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:12 PM
> > To: mikes horse racing
> > Subject: [OT] Another crappy enviro-car death trap.
> >
> > The video is hilarious.
> >
> > http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2009/11/another_crappy.html#comments
> >
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Re: [NF] Visual Studio Mono Plugin

[MB Software Solutions, LLC]

Stephen Russell wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:45 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC
>  wrote:
>> All true but the #s you have to spend to get to that point are NOT
>> cheap.  The marketing will cost you some serious bucks, imo, if it is to
>> be successful...unless it's absolutely cool and goes viral on its own.
> 
> 
> You are saying that a capital investment of 4000 is a deal breaker for
> your consulting empire?
> 
> Have you ever dealt with Novel before?  "Only 4000" is a slice of
> ultra cheap for them for worldwide unlimited usage.

It's all relative.  $4000 for MBSS right now is absolutely a deal 
breaker.  $4000 for somebody else might not even be a blip on their 
radar.  It's all relative.

-- 
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MB Software Solutions, LLC
President, Chief Software Architect
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Re: [OT] Another crappy enviro-car death trap.

[Publius Maximus]

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Michael Madigan  wrote:
> The best thing is that the death rate will go way up for environmentalists 
> and Democrats!
>
> I can't wait to get Rob Reiner, Lori David and Ed Begley Jr. on a California 
> Highway in one of these things.
>

You're kidding, right? These people never live by the rules they write
for everybody else. Just take a stroll through Gore's mansion, or
check out all the greese oozing in his BBQ grill, or hop on one of his
jetstream jets.

Bottom line: they want rules that ensure no one else gets to live like
they do, and the power to knock anyone who threatens them down.

- Publius

"It ought never to be forgotten, that a firm union of this country,
under an efficient government, will probably be an increasing object
of jealousy to more than one nation of Europe; and that enterprises to
subvert it will sometimes originate in the intrigues of foreign
powers, and will seldom fail to be patronized and abetted by some of
them. Its preservation, therefore ought in no case that can be
avoided, to be committed to the guardianship of any but those whose
situation will uniformly beget an immediate interest in the faithful
and vigilant performance of the trust." [Federalist Papers #59]

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[OT] Obama's home teleprompter malfunctions

[Michael Madigan]

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/obamas_home_teleprompter?utm_source=videoembed

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Re: [OT] Another crappy enviro-car death trap.

[Michael Madigan]

Actually Ed Begley does live the environmental kook lifestyle

--- On Wed, 11/18/09, Publius Maximus  wrote:

> From: Publius Maximus 
> Subject: Re: [OT] Another crappy enviro-car death trap.
> To: "ProFox Email List" 
> Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 5:37 PM
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:19 PM,
> Michael Madigan 
> wrote:
> > The best thing is that the death rate will go way up
> for environmentalists and Democrats!
> >
> > I can't wait to get Rob Reiner, Lori David and Ed
> Begley Jr. on a California Highway in one of these things.
> >
> 
> You're kidding, right? These people never live by the rules
> they write
> for everybody else. Just take a stroll through Gore's
> mansion, or
> check out all the greese oozing in his BBQ grill, or hop on
> one of his
> jetstream jets.
> 
> Bottom line: they want rules that ensure no one else gets
> to live like
> they do, and the power to knock anyone who threatens them
> down.
> 
> - Publius
> 
> "It ought never to be forgotten, that a firm union of this
> country,
> under an efficient government, will probably be an
> increasing object
> of jealousy to more than one nation of Europe; and that
> enterprises to
> subvert it will sometimes originate in the intrigues of
> foreign
> powers, and will seldom fail to be patronized and abetted
> by some of
> them. Its preservation, therefore ought in no case that can
> be
> avoided, to be committed to the guardianship of any but
> those whose
> situation will uniformly beget an immediate interest in the
> faithful
> and vigilant performance of the trust." [Federalist Papers
> #59]
> 
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Exiting a grid

[Sytze de Boer]

Hi Folk
Can someone help me with this ?

I have a form with 20 odd text boxes
There is also a grid with 9 rows/3 columns

In the Grid, in the valid of 3rd column is the following

IF LASTKEY()=13
   IF level=9 AND UPPER(varread())="MARGIN"
   && margin is the 3rd column
  WAIT WINDOW NOWAIT 'It should flick out at this point'
  RETURN thisform.pageframe1.page1.text16&& this avoids error
Cannot call setfocus
   else
  KEYBOARD '{DNARROW}'
   endif
ENDIF

Why does it not exit the grid and set focus to text16 ?

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[OT] The Mother of all Fiascos

[Publius Maximus]

http://bit.ly/4gsK8L

- - -
Not only does Graham have to tell him that there’s no precedent for
trying battlefield detainees in civilian court, but Holder’s emphasis
on how we don’t need a confession to convict Bin Laden completely
misses the larger point Graham’s trying to make. The real worry in a
district-court trial isn’t what’ll happen to archterrorists like Osama
or KSM, whose perpetual detention is assured; the worry is that those
trials will establish precedents that’ll be exploited by lesser
jihadis at their own trials later on. KSM won’t be released because
the political consequences to the administration are too dire, but
what about some other terrorist who’s less well known to the public
and whose guilt, while certain to the CIA, is less provable under
normal evidentiary rules? A confession in a case like that might be
critical — but what if he wasn’t Mirandized before he confessed? What
then? That’s Graham’s point, and Holder seems to want nothing to do
with it.

...

Maybe they’re simply looking at the pile of admissible evidence they
have for each detainee and deciding that guys with big piles go to
civilian court, where they’re likely to be convicted anyway and The
One can crow about “due process,” while guys with smaller piles go to
military court, since a civilian trial might well result in them
getting off. If that’s what they’re doing — i.e. a two-track justice
system designed purely to maximize the government’s odds at conviction
while minimizing the political risk of acquittal — then, like
Patterico says, KSM’s trial is even more of a show trial than we
thought.

...

The decision on what “due process” is due, in other words, is based
not on the nature of the underlying act — war perpetrated by a foreign
enemy — but on the outcome The One wants to achieve, with Holder
actually going so far today as to say, I kid you not, “Failure is not
an option.” Isn’t failure always an option in a true due-process
regime?
- - -

This does not end well.

Whatever happens we will come away worse off for it.

If KSM is convicted, it will only because a kind of "fix" is in to
ignore the normal criminal rules of evidence and procedure, which do
not apply to enemy combatants, least of all terrorists of KSM's ilk.
So the justice system will look rigged, and set more bad precedents
than anyone today imagines on levels too profound to contemplate.
Surely if they can rig a political outcome when due process -- not
owed to KSM, but granted, as it were, in the service of a curious
political agenda -- is ignored, they can duplicate it in trials of
actual citizens.

If KSM is acquitted, all of the same imperfections of the system will
be on display in HD, and meanwhile KSM will be detained anyway---which
will feed even more animosity in the Muslim world.

The possibility of his acquittal is something only an idiot would
discount. O. J. Simpson, anyone? KSM was never read his Miranda rights
-- which presumably now apply to him, since you can get almost any
charge dismissed on that technicality alone. Then there is the pesky
fact that the "President' has been proclaiming high and low, wherever
he gets a chance, that this man was tortured (he's only one of three
who was waterboarded), so a third grader could get his confessions
thrown out for that reason alone. I mean, it's insane to risk this.

Unless.

Unless the purpose is at bottom political, and radical at that -- to
indict the entire system of justice itself in a circus trial, and use
whatever the outcome to demoralize the nation. Because that is all
that can possibly come of so absurd a decision.

And does anyone REALLY believe Obama didn't know about the decision or
desire it, that Eric totally owns it? BS. That they're even trying to
paint the illusion of plausible deniability is nonsense.

Or did no one notice that ever since the CBO was, shall we say,
dressed down by the White House in May, all of a sudden their budget
estimates starting hitting right in the range that is deemed
politically acceptable to el Presidente? (Before that the CBO was
raining all the time on the Health Care parade.)

And I won't even mention the Inspector General who Obama fired because
his investigating was getting, shall we say, a bit close to home. That
scandal is several orders of magnitude worse than the DOJ attorney
firings because unlike those attorney positions, the IG is supposed to
be totally independent politically, whereas the attorney positions are
inherently political as they serve at the pleasure of el Presidente.
And the IG was onto something embarrassing to el Presidente's wife.

This whole situation has EPIC FAIL written all over it. Oh, if only
this cup could pass us by

- Publius

"It ought never to be forgotten, that a firm union of this country,
under an efficient government, will probably be an increasing object
of jealousy to more than one nation of Europe; and that enterprises to
subvert it will sometimes originate in the intrigues of foreign
powers,

[OT] A Generation of Natural Born Killers?

[Publius Maximus]

http://bit.ly/14aHQ9

- - -
JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. —  Blessed with a Friday off school, 15-year-old
Alyssa Bustamante dug two holes in the ground to be used as a grave,
authorities said. For the next week, she attended classes, all the
while plotting the right time for a murder, they said.

That time arrived the evening of Oct. 21, when Bustamante strangled
9-year-old neighbor Elizabeth Olten without provocation, cut the
girl's throat and stabbed her, prosecutors said. Why?

"Ultimately, she stated she wanted to know what it felt like,"
Missouri State Highway Patrol Sgt. David Rice testified Wednesday
during a court hearing over the slaying.
- - -

I don't even know what to say.

Prozac and promises to rehabilitate are no threat to demons who have
been given rights to a human soul.

- Publius

"It ought never to be forgotten, that a firm union of this country,
under an efficient government, will probably be an increasing object
of jealousy to more than one nation of Europe; and that enterprises to
subvert it will sometimes originate in the intrigues of foreign
powers, and will seldom fail to be patronized and abetted by some of
them. Its preservation, therefore ought in no case that can be
avoided, to be committed to the guardianship of any but those whose
situation will uniformly beget an immediate interest in the faithful
and vigilant performance of the trust." [Federalist Papers #59]

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Re: [OT] A Generation of Natural Born Killers?

[Michael Madigan]

I wonder if this girl was involved in the occult in any way.

--- On Wed, 11/18/09, Publius Maximus  wrote:

> From: Publius Maximus 
> Subject: [OT] A Generation of Natural Born Killers?
> To: "ProFox Email List" 
> Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 11:04 PM
> http://bit.ly/14aHQ9
> 
> - - -
> JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. —  Blessed with a Friday off
> school, 15-year-old
> Alyssa Bustamante dug two holes in the ground to be used as
> a grave,
> authorities said. For the next week, she attended classes,
> all the
> while plotting the right time for a murder, they said.
> 
> That time arrived the evening of Oct. 21, when Bustamante
> strangled
> 9-year-old neighbor Elizabeth Olten without provocation,
> cut the
> girl's throat and stabbed her, prosecutors said. Why?
> 
> "Ultimately, she stated she wanted to know what it felt
> like,"
> Missouri State Highway Patrol Sgt. David Rice testified
> Wednesday
> during a court hearing over the slaying.
> - - -
> 
> I don't even know what to say.
> 
> Prozac and promises to rehabilitate are no threat to demons
> who have
> been given rights to a human soul.
> 
> - Publius
> 
> "It ought never to be forgotten, that a firm union of this
> country,
> under an efficient government, will probably be an
> increasing object
> of jealousy to more than one nation of Europe; and that
> enterprises to
> subvert it will sometimes originate in the intrigues of
> foreign
> powers, and will seldom fail to be patronized and abetted
> by some of
> them. Its preservation, therefore ought in no case that can
> be
> avoided, to be committed to the guardianship of any but
> those whose
> situation will uniformly beget an immediate interest in the
> faithful
> and vigilant performance of the trust." [Federalist Papers
> #59]
> 
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