Re: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child porn charges.

[Michael Madigan]

No senor, because you are bat is missing balls.   


- Original Message -
From: Ricardo Araoz 
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Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 7:35 PM
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charges.

You mean because I'm not after boys like you are? hahaha


On 27/06/12 19:56, Michael Madigan wrote:
> I'm chatting with a eunuch right now.  
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Ricardo Araoz 
> To: ProFox Email List 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 6:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child 
> porn charges.
>
> On 27/06/12 14:36, Michael Madigan wrote:
>> Political capital my ass, it's people like you who allow this to happen in 
>> the first place.   A hugely disproportionate number of gays are involved in 
>> child molestation, yet people like you champion the cause of gays working 
>> closely with children.   Shame on you .
>>
>>
> Nice thinking!
> Also a huge number of heterosexuals are involved in child molestation.
> So I propose only eunuchs are allowed to work closely with children.
> Do I have to explain "eunuch" or do you have your Webster at hand?
>


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> On 6/27/2012 4:33 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Michael Madigan  
>> wrote:
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>> ---
>>
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>
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Re: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child porn charges.

[Ricardo Araoz]

You mean because I'm not after boys like you are? hahaha


On 27/06/12 19:56, Michael Madigan wrote:
> I'm chatting with a eunuch right now.   
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Ricardo Araoz 
> To: ProFox Email List 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 6:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child 
> porn charges.
>
> On 27/06/12 14:36, Michael Madigan wrote:
>> Political capital my ass, it's people like you who allow this to happen in 
>> the first place.   A hugely disproportionate number of gays are involved in 
>> child molestation, yet people like you champion the cause of gays working 
>> closely with children.   Shame on you .
>>
>>
> Nice thinking!
> Also a huge number of heterosexuals are involved in child molestation.
> So I propose only eunuchs are allowed to work closely with children.
> Do I have to explain "eunuch" or do you have your Webster at hand?
>


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Re: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child porn charges.

[Michael Madigan]

I'm chatting with a eunuch right now.   


- Original Message -
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To: ProFox Email List 
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child porn 
charges.

On 27/06/12 14:36, Michael Madigan wrote:
> Political capital my ass, it's people like you who allow this to happen in 
> the first place.   A hugely disproportionate number of gays are involved in 
> child molestation, yet people like you champion the cause of gays working 
> closely with children.   Shame on you .
>
>

Nice thinking!
Also a huge number of heterosexuals are involved in child molestation.
So I propose only eunuchs are allowed to work closely with children.
Do I have to explain "eunuch" or do you have your Webster at hand?


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Re: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child porn charges.

[Ricardo Araoz]

On 27/06/12 14:36, Michael Madigan wrote:
> Political capital my ass, it's people like you who allow this to happen in 
> the first place.   A hugely disproportionate number of gays are involved in 
> child molestation, yet people like you champion the cause of gays working 
> closely with children.   Shame on you .
>
>

Nice thinking!
Also a huge number of heterosexuals are involved in child molestation.
So I propose only eunuchs are allowed to work closely with children.
Do I have to explain "eunuch" or do you have your Webster at hand?


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Re: [OT] Now wait one damn minute!

[Michael Madigan]

I love watching the second worst president criticize the worst president.   


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Subject: [OT]  Now wait one damn minute!

Hi Everybody,

Shit, they are both assholes.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1708342328001/
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Re: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child porn charges.

[Michael Madigan]

Common sense   

Men make up the overwhelming majority of predators of both girls and boys. 

Only 3% of men are gay, yet about 31% of child molestation victims are boys, 
almost exclusively man on boy..   

http://www.childmolestationprevention.org/pdfs/study.pdf 


That means homosexuals offend at almost 10 times that of heterosexual men.  

The argument is "just because a man has sex with a boy, doesn't mean he's gay", 
or, "many men who rape boys are married", of course they never state the 
corollary, "Just because you're married to a woman doesn't make you straight".  
 

I don't expect this to change the minds of the pedophile supporters.   










- Original Message -
From: "Michael Oke, II" 
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Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child porn 
charges.

Pete,
No numbers that I have ever seen substantiate that homosexuals make up a 
greater number of pedophiles.  Now, there could be a number of reasons for this 
but I wondered if Mike had an actual source or if he was merely speculating. 

As for you experience, while tragic, it is statistically insignificant. 


Michael Oke, II
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On Jun 27, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Pete Theisen  wrote:

> On 06/27/2012 05:17 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote:
>> I'd love to know where those figures come from. I've never heard
>> anything that remotely substantiates that position.
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> Well, I guess I might be the one on the list with personal experience.
> Assuming age 10 is a kid, and was a kid 57 years ago, I would say that
> in my experience it is 100%, it only seems like 150%. But, of course,
> only liberals, faggots and communists actually know anything.
> 
> I don't know why you would say you have never heard anything, I post
> this regularly so no one ever forgets.
> 
>>> A hugely disproportionate number of gays are involved in child
>>> molestation
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Pete
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> http://elect-pete-theisen.c[excessive quoting removed by server]

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Re: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child porn charges.

[Pete Theisen]

On 06/27/2012 05:45 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote:

> No numbers that I have ever seen substantiate that homosexuals make up a 
> greater number of pedophiles.  Now, there could be a number of reasons for 
> this but I wondered if Mike had an actual source or if he was merely 
> speculating.

Hi Michael,

You of course know that no one would ever publish that - not politically 
correct.

> As for you experience, while tragic, it is statistically insignificant.

Everybody says that, again and again. Thus I have dropped my rants to 
"line them up and shoot them" and would be satisfied with life in prison 
for all of them who actually indulge. "Dirty" thoughts are still private.

Now think about this: Life in prison. Roll over and you find that 
somebody, maybe "Bubba", loves you long time. There is only one reason 
why they don't line up around the block for this - they don't like Bubba 
or any adult partner, they would prefer to have kids for sexual slaves.

>> Well, I guess I might be the one on the list with personal experience.
>> Assuming age 10 is a kid, and was a kid 57 years ago, I would say that
>> in my experience it is 100%, it only seems like 150%. But, of course,
>> only liberals, faggots and communists actually know anything.
>>
>> I don't know why you would say you have never heard anything, I post
>> this regularly so no one ever forgets.
>>
 A hugely disproportionate number of gays are involved in child
 molestation
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Re: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child porn charges.

[Michael Oke, II]

Pete,
No numbers that I have ever seen substantiate that homosexuals make up a 
greater number of pedophiles.  Now, there could be a number of reasons for this 
but I wondered if Mike had an actual source or if he was merely speculating. 

As for you experience, while tragic, it is statistically insignificant. 


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On Jun 27, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Pete Theisen  wrote:

> On 06/27/2012 05:17 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote:
>> I'd love to know where those figures come from. I've never heard
>> anything that remotely substantiates that position.
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> Well, I guess I might be the one on the list with personal experience.
> Assuming age 10 is a kid, and was a kid 57 years ago, I would say that
> in my experience it is 100%, it only seems like 150%. But, of course,
> only liberals, faggots and communists actually know anything.
> 
> I don't know why you would say you have never heard anything, I post
> this regularly so no one ever forgets.
> 
>>> A hugely disproportionate number of gays are involved in child
>>> molestation
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Pete
> http://pete-theisen.com/
> http://elect-pete-theisen.com/
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child porn charges.

[Michael Madigan]

Just because you blew me doesn't mean I'm bisexual.   I really didn't enjoy it. 
  


- Original Message -
From: Adam Buckland 
To: ProFox Email List 
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:04 PM
Subject: RE: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child porn 
charges.

Well Michael, 

You are talking out of your ass, please find where I have championed this. 


Shame on me.. bollocks; you are just lying to  cover up your insecurity over 
your lack of family and children... Are you a closet bisexual (giving you the 
benefit of the doubt with your girlfriend here)??

Irrespective though the figures do not substantiate your hysterical rants 
reagrding the proportions of child molestataions in the Hetrosexual and Bi/Gay 
communities.. 

:-)





From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [profox-boun...@leafe.com] on behalf of Michael 
Madigan [mmadi10...@yahoo.com]
Sent: 27 June 2012 18:36
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: Re: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child porn  
charges.

Political capital my ass, it's people like you who allow this to happen in the 
first place.   A hugely disproportionate number of gays are involved in child 
molestation, yet people like you champion the cause of gays working closely 
with children.   Shame on you .



From: Adam Buckland 
To: ProFox Email List 
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:25 AM
Subject: RE: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child porn 
charges.

It's objectionable and horrible whatever  sexual orientation does this.. even 
worse are those producing it. I'm sure every parent like myself shudder at the 
thought of this happening to one of our children.

To try and make political capital out of child molestation  is low even for you 
Mike

-Original Message-
From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of 
Michael Madigan
Sent: 26 June 2012 21:13
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: Re: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child porn 
charges.

Here's something Adam can actually get angry with, he was a White Supremacist 
baby molester.

" “I loved especially the ni**er 2 year old getting nailed. Hope you’ll 
continue so I can see what the little blond bi*ch is going to get. White Power! 
White Supremacy! White D*ck Rules!”"


- Original Message -
From: "Michael Oke, II" 
To: ProFox Email List 
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child porn 
charges.

I'm sure that he was 'doing research' as part of a sting operation to catch 
those who are so far gone as to find this sort of stuff acceptable.


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On Jun 26, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Michael Madigan  wrote:

> It doesn't matter how this happens over and over again, they'll still say 
> it's rare.
>
>
> http://www.theblaze.com/stories/66-year-old-gay-rights-icon-arrested-over-horrific-child-pornography-alle[excessive
>  quoting removed by server]

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Re: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child porn charges.

[Pete Theisen]

On 06/27/2012 05:04 PM, Adam Buckland wrote:
> Well Michael,
>
> You are talking out of your ass, please find where I have championed
> this.
>
>
> Shame on me.. bollocks; you are just lying to  cover up your
> insecurity over your lack of family and children... Are you a closet
> bisexual (giving you the benefit of the doubt with your girlfriend
> here)??

Hi Adam,

Well, if you wanted to remove all doubt about yourself! Traditionally 
the biggest flamers of all are the ones who like to say those who are 
disgusted with or afraid about how faggots are destroying society are 
"closet" bisexuals.

Yeah, right! Look in the mirror and tell yourself what you told Michael.
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Re: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child porn charges.

[Michael Oke, II]

I'd love to know where those figures come from. I've never heard anything that 
remotely substantiates that position. 


Michael Oke, II
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On Jun 27, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Adam Buckland  wrote:

> Well Michael, 
> 
> You are talking out of your ass, please find where I have championed this. 
> 
> 
> Shame on me.. bollocks; you are just lying to  cover up your insecurity over 
> your lack of family and children... Are you a closet bisexual (giving you the 
> benefit of the doubt with your girlfriend here)??
> 
> Irrespective though the figures do not substantiate your hysterical rants 
> reagrding the proportions of child molestataions in the Hetrosexual and 
> Bi/Gay communities.. 
> 
> :-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [profox-boun...@leafe.com] on behalf of 
> Michael Madigan [mmadi10...@yahoo.com]
> Sent: 27 June 2012 18:36
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: Re: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child 
> porn  charges.
> 
> Political capital my ass, it's people like you who allow this to happen in 
> the first place.   A hugely disproportionate number of gays are involved in 
> child molestation, yet people like you champion the cause of gays working 
> closely with children.   Shame on you .
> 
> 
> 
> From: Adam Buckland 
> To: ProFox Email List 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:25 AM
> Subject: RE: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child 
> porn charges.
> 
> It's objectionable and horrible whatever  sexual orientation does this.. even 
> worse are those producing it. I'm sure every parent like myself shudder at 
> the thought of this happening to one of our children.
> 
> To try and make political capital out of child molestation  is low even for 
> you Mike
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of 
> Michael Madigan
> Sent: 26 June 2012 21:13
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: Re: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child 
> porn charges.
> 
> Here's something Adam can actually get angry with, he was a White Supremacist 
> baby molester.
> 
> " “I loved especially the ni**er 2 year old getting nailed. Hope you’ll 
> continue so I can see what the little blond bi*ch is going to get. White 
> Power! White Supremacy! White D*ck Rules!”"
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Michael Oke, II" 
> To: ProFox Email List 
> Cc:
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child 
> porn charges.
> 
> I'm sure that he was 'doing research' as part of a sting operation to catch 
> those who are so far gone as to find this sort of stuff acceptable.
> 
> 
> Michael Oke, II
> 661-349-6221
> 
> Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient.
> 
> On Jun 26, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Michael Madigan  wrote:
> 
>> It doesn't matter how this happens over and over again, they'll still say 
>> it's rare.
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.theblaze.com/stories/66-year-old-gay-rights-icon-arrested-over-horrific-child-pornography-allegations-graphic-content/[excessive
>>  quoting removed by server]
> 
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Re: [NF] Buying software online (grumble)

[Pete Theisen]

On 06/27/2012 01:17 PM, Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox) wrote:
> Hey - 
>
> For the second time in as many investigations, I have stopped the process of
> buying software upgrades. Why? A "online delivery fee" included. The
> example this morning: Parallels. I have ignored for a while the
> "opportunity" to upgrade it. I got a notice for an offer I thought was
> reasonable price ($30), so I said "Sure, why not?" I followed the
> link, and was on the "checkout" screen on their site. There it was:
> Extended Download Service:  $6.99. I muttered a few expletives, and
> said "F this."
>
> I took the time to look for some feedback mechanism to tell them what
> I think of this, but the only option seemed to join their forum. I
> didn't bother.
>
> Opinions?

Hi Ken,

Somebody here on the list told me to friend them on Facebook and then 
criticize their policy on their wall. Might have been you?
-- 
Regards,

Pete
http://pete-theisen.com/
http://elect-pete-theisen.com/



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RE: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child porn charges.

[Adam Buckland]

Well Michael, 

You are talking out of your ass, please find where I have championed this. 


Shame on me.. bollocks; you are just lying to  cover up your insecurity over 
your lack of family and children... Are you a closet bisexual (giving you the 
benefit of the doubt with your girlfriend here)??

Irrespective though the figures do not substantiate your hysterical rants 
reagrding the proportions of child molestataions in the Hetrosexual and Bi/Gay 
communities.. 

:-)





From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [profox-boun...@leafe.com] on behalf of Michael 
Madigan [mmadi10...@yahoo.com]
Sent: 27 June 2012 18:36
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: Re: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child porn  
charges.

Political capital my ass, it's people like you who allow this to happen in the 
first place.   A hugely disproportionate number of gays are involved in child 
molestation, yet people like you champion the cause of gays working closely 
with children.   Shame on you .



From: Adam Buckland 
To: ProFox Email List 
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:25 AM
Subject: RE: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child porn 
charges.

It's objectionable and horrible whatever  sexual orientation does this.. even 
worse are those producing it. I'm sure every parent like myself shudder at the 
thought of this happening to one of our children.

To try and make political capital out of child molestation  is low even for you 
Mike

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From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of 
Michael Madigan
Sent: 26 June 2012 21:13
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: Re: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child porn 
charges.

Here's something Adam can actually get angry with, he was a White Supremacist 
baby molester.

" “I loved especially the ni**er 2 year old getting nailed. Hope you’ll 
continue so I can see what the little blond bi*ch is going to get. White Power! 
White Supremacy! White D*ck Rules!”"


- Original Message -
From: "Michael Oke, II" 
To: ProFox Email List 
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child porn 
charges.

I'm sure that he was 'doing research' as part of a sting operation to catch 
those who are so far gone as to find this sort of stuff acceptable.


Michael Oke, II
661-349-6221

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On Jun 26, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Michael Madigan  wrote:

> It doesn't matter how this happens over and over again, they'll still say 
> it's rare.
>
>
> http://www.theblaze.com/stories/66-year-old-gay-rights-icon-arrested-over-horrific-child-pornography-allegations-graphic-content/[excessive
>  quoting removed by server]

[excessive quoting removed by server]

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Re: [NF] Business Notebook Recommendations

[MB Software Solutions, LLC]

On 6/27/2012 4:33 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Michael Madigan  wrote:
>> This is why I accept way less money working for myself, I no longer have the 
>> tolerance to not throttle morons.
> ---
>
> Not sure that many of us would do the same.


Depends on the bills you've got to pay.  Corporate World for IT 
*usually* pays better than going solo, unless you've got a well 
established product and/or client-base.  My dream/goal isn't wealth; 
it's independence and freedom from bills.  Hence currently, I'm in the 
Corporate World.

(And on that note, I make my last payment to the divorce lawyer this 
week!!!  Woo hoo!!  Finally done with that one!!)


-- 
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MB Software Solutions, LLC
President, Chief Software Architect
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Re: [NF] Business Notebook Recommendations

[Stephen Russell]

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Michael Madigan  wrote:
> This is why I accept way less money working for myself, I no longer have the 
> tolerance to not throttle morons.
---

Not sure that many of us would do the same.


-- 
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Ring Container Technology
Oakland TN

901.246-0159 cell

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RE: [NF] Buying software online (grumble)

[Kurt Wendt]

Ha ha - Bad Steve...

:-)

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From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com]
On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions, LLC
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 3:08 PM

On 6/27/2012 1:22 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:
> Twitter.  #badCompanyName risp me off charging a download fee #FAIL


Good idea, but of course with the spelling and grammar errors fixed.
lol
-- 
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Re: [NF] Business Notebook Recommendations

[Michael Madigan]

This is why I accept way less money working for myself, I no longer have the 
tolerance to not throttle morons.   


- Original Message -
From: Lou Syracuse 
To: "profox@leafe.com" 
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: [NF] Business Notebook Recommendations

Ditto.   Or in my case, how my company runs me.  :(   Long story, but I've been 
programming on my personal notebook for the company I work for since late last 
year.   My "Development Server" did not have enough HD space to store a copy of 
our production database (80GB), nor does my work-provided desktop.   Good 
practice?   No.    A new Development Server has been sitting in a box for over 
6 months; I even offered to set it up but there it sits...

Thanks to all those who added their thoughts and recommendations on this topic!

Update: After 2 hours of meetings on the topic and selecting different options 
and vendors (Lenovo, Samsung, Dell and HP were the finalists), the whole thing 
has been set aside - just one day after we are told they want to get them right 
away and to decide quickly.   Apparently the thought now is that since the 
company is going to virtual desktops somewhere around year end or early next 
year that we really don't need powerful notebook computers.    'Not happy' is 
putting it mildly.

Lou


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Behalf Of Ted Roche
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:22 AM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [NF] Business Notebook Recommendations

I'd suggest it might depend on how you run your business. I've done two 
on-sites in the past week, and spent the weekend in Maine hacking on laptops 
with 33 other nerds. Having my full development environment with me... 
priceless.

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Re: [NF] Buying software online (grumble)

[MB Software Solutions, LLC]

On 6/27/2012 1:22 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:
> Twitter.  #badCompanyName risp me off charging a download fee #FAIL


Good idea, but of course with the spelling and grammar errors fixed.  lol


-- 
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MB Software Solutions, LLC
President, Chief Software Architect
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RE: [NF] Business Notebook Recommendations

[Lou Syracuse]

Ditto.   Or in my case, how my company runs me.  :(   Long story, but I've been 
programming on my personal notebook for the company I work for since late last 
year.   My "Development Server" did not have enough HD space to store a copy of 
our production database (80GB), nor does my work-provided desktop.   Good 
practice?   No.A new Development Server has been sitting in a box for over 
6 months; I even offered to set it up but there it sits...

Thanks to all those who added their thoughts and recommendations on this topic!

Update: After 2 hours of meetings on the topic and selecting different options 
and vendors (Lenovo, Samsung, Dell and HP were the finalists), the whole thing 
has been set aside - just one day after we are told they want to get them right 
away and to decide quickly.   Apparently the thought now is that since the 
company is going to virtual desktops somewhere around year end or early next 
year that we really don't need powerful notebook computers.'Not happy' is 
putting it mildly.

Lou
 

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Ted Roche
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:22 AM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [NF] Business Notebook Recommendations

I'd suggest it might depend on how you run your business. I've done two 
on-sites in the past week, and spent the weekend in Maine hacking on laptops 
with 33 other nerds. Having my full development environment with me... 
priceless.

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Re: [NF] Business Notebook Recommendations

[Vincent Teachout]

Dan Covill wrote:
> On 06/26/12 15:08, Michael Madigan wrote:
>> I think the bottom line is to only use a laptop when you need to go mobile, 
>> and make sure everything else you have is a desktop.
>>
> 
> I agree with that completely.  Notebooks are 'cool', but they are less 
> efficient to use, less robust, and (most important in a business 
> environment) difficult and costly to repair.

I disagree.  I use a laptop AS a desktop.  It mostly stays on my desk
with a mouse and keyboard plugged into it.  I find it is much quieter
than a desktop, not as hot, takes up less space, and uses less
electricity.  I actually have a second laptop that I use as a laptop if
I have to travel.



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Re: [NF] Business Notebook Recommendations

[Jeff Johnson]

On 06/27/2012 10:21 AM, Ted Roche wrote:
> I'd suggest it might depend on how you run your business. I've done two
> on-sites in the past week, and spent the weekend in Maine hacking on
> laptops with 33 other nerds. Having my full development environment with
> me... priceless.
Yeah, but you had to pay to keep two operating systems up to date.  ;^)

Jeff

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RE: [NF] LiveMesh activeX

[John Weller]

These are in the Add/Remove Programs list.

 

John Weller
01380 723235
07976 393631 

 

From: Eurico Chagas Filho [mailto:e28cha...@yahoo.com.br] 
Sent: 27 June 2012 17:56
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Subject: Re: [NF] LiveMesh activeX

 


Check the properties, if they address different exe, delete. If they address
the same, just delete the icons.

 



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Re: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child porn charges.

[Michael Madigan]

Political capital my ass, it's people like you who allow this to happen in the 
first place.   A hugely disproportionate number of gays are involved in child 
molestation, yet people like you champion the cause of gays working closely 
with children.   Shame on you .



From: Adam Buckland 
To: ProFox Email List  
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:25 AM
Subject: RE: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child porn 
charges.

It's objectionable and horrible whatever  sexual orientation does this.. even 
worse are those producing it. I'm sure every parent like myself shudder at the 
thought of this happening to one of our children.

To try and make political capital out of child molestation  is low even for you 
Mike

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Michael Madigan
Sent: 26 June 2012 21:13
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: Re: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child porn 
charges.

Here's something Adam can actually get angry with, he was a 
White Supremacist baby molester.  

" “I loved especially the ni**er 2 year old getting nailed. Hope you’ll 
continue so I can see what the little blond bi*ch is going to get. White Power! 
White Supremacy! White D*ck Rules!”"


- Original Message -
From: "Michael Oke, II" 
To: ProFox Email List 
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child porn 
charges.

I'm sure that he was 'doing research' as part of a sting operation to catch 
those who are so far gone as to find this sort of stuff acceptable. 


Michael Oke, II
661-349-6221

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On Jun 26, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Michael Madigan  wrote:

> It doesn't matter how this happens over and over again, they'll still say 
> it's rare.  
> 
> 
> http://www.theblaze.com/stories/66-year-old-gay-rights-icon-arrested-over-horrific-child-pornography-allegations-graphic-content/[excessive
>  quoting removed by server]

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RE: [NF] Buying software online (grumble)

[Richard Kaye]

I've upgraded my Parallels a few times. If you don't get that, you have a 
relatively limited window for downloading the installer and no recovery option 
once that window passes. It's basically insurance and IIRC you can just uncheck 
the box before finalizing your purchase.

--
rk

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Behalf Of Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox)
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 1:17 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: [NF] Buying software online (grumble)

Hey - 

For the second time in as many investigations, I have stopped the process of 
buying software upgrades. Why? A "online delivery fee" included. The example 
this morning: Parallels. I have ignored for a while the "opportunity" to 
upgrade it. I got a notice for an offer I thought was reasonable price ($30), 
so I said "Sure, why not?" I followed the link, and was on the "checkout" 
screen on their site. There it was:
Extended Download Service:      $6.99. I muttered a few expletives, and said "F 
this."

I took the time to look for some feedback mechanism to tell them what I think 
of this, but the only option seemed to join their forum. I didn't bother.

Opinions?

Ken


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Re: [NF] Buying software online (grumble)

[M Jarvis]

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox)
 wrote:
> Hey - 
>
> I took the time to look for some feedback mechanism to tell them what
> I think of this, but the only option seemed to join their forum. I
> didn't bother.
>
> Opinions?
>

Software is evil - avoid it whenever possible  

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Re: [NF] Buying software online (grumble)

[Stephen Russell]

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox)
 wrote:
> Hey - 
>
> For the second time in as many investigations, I have stopped the process of
> buying software upgrades. Why? A "online delivery fee" included. The
> example this morning: Parallels. I have ignored for a while the
> "opportunity" to upgrade it. I got a notice for an offer I thought was
> reasonable price ($30), so I said "Sure, why not?" I followed the
> link, and was on the "checkout" screen on their site. There it was:
> Extended Download Service:      $6.99. I muttered a few expletives, and
> said "F this."
>
> I took the time to look for some feedback mechanism to tell them what
> I think of this, but the only option seemed to join their forum. I
> didn't bother.
>
> Opinions?
--

Twitter.  #badCompanyName risp me off charging a download fee #FAIL



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Sr. Analyst
Ring Container Technology
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Re: [NF] Business Notebook Recommendations

[Ted Roche]

I'd suggest it might depend on how you run your business. I've done two
on-sites in the past week, and spent the weekend in Maine hacking on
laptops with 33 other nerds. Having my full development environment with
me... priceless.


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Re: [NF] Buying software online (grumble)

[Michael Oke, II]

Are you sure that that wasn't an option to keep your download for an extended 
period of time so that you could download it again at a later time?


Michael Oke, II
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On Jun 27, 2012, at 10:17 AM, "Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox)" 
 wrote:

> Hey - 
> 
> For the second time in as many investigations, I have stopped the process of
> buying software upgrades. Why? A "online delivery fee" included. The
> example this morning: Parallels. I have ignored for a while the
> "opportunity" to upgrade it. I got a notice for an offer I thought was
> reasonable price ($30), so I said "Sure, why not?" I followed the
> link, and was on the "checkout" screen on their site. There it was:
> Extended Download Service:  $6.99. I muttered a few expletives, and
> said "F this."
> 
> I took the time to look for some feedback mechanism to tell them what
> I think of this, but the only option seemed to join their forum. I
> didn't bother.
> 
> Opinions?
> 
> Ken
> 
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Re: [NF] Business Notebook Recommendations

[Stephen Russell]

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Dan Covill  wrote:
> On 06/26/12 15:08, Michael Madigan wrote:
>> I think the bottom line is to only use a laptop when you need to go mobile, 
>> and make sure everything else you have is a desktop.
>>
>
> I agree with that completely.  Notebooks are 'cool', but they are less
> efficient to use, less robust, and (most important in a business
> environment) difficult and costly to repair.
>


I don't agree at all.  Now you have to keep a pair of devices up to
date, software installed as well as updates.   Why pay for duplicate
software OS, as well as all other apps that are not in house or open
source.

When two devices are in use you have to cross reference any changes
between the two?  Why would I ever want to do that waste of time?

I have been working, day job, off of laptop for a couple of months now
and I love it.  I have to take my laptop with me as an IT employee
because when doo-doo happens I need to be able to leap into action.
Why would I want to commute to the office to work?

Get a quality laptop and your good to go.  Get a docking station as well.




-- 
Stephen Russell
Sr. Analyst
Ring Container Technology
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[NF] Buying software online (grumble)

[Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox)]

Hey - 

For the second time in as many investigations, I have stopped the process of
buying software upgrades. Why? A "online delivery fee" included. The
example this morning: Parallels. I have ignored for a while the
"opportunity" to upgrade it. I got a notice for an offer I thought was
reasonable price ($30), so I said "Sure, why not?" I followed the
link, and was on the "checkout" screen on their site. There it was:
Extended Download Service:      $6.99. I muttered a few expletives, and
said "F this."

I took the time to look for some feedback mechanism to tell them what
I think of this, but the only option seemed to join their forum. I
didn't bother.

Opinions?

Ken

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[NF] LiveMesh activeX

[John Weller]

Looking at Uninstall Programs in Windows 7 control Panel I appear to have 7
identical copies of the LiveMesh ActiveX control.  They all have the same
version and size.  Four are in French, Spanish, German and I think
Portuguese plus 3 in English with what appears to be identical names except
that one version has the words 'remote connections' in lower case whereas
the other 2 have it with initial capitals.  Question - can I delete 6 of
these?

TIA

John Weller
01380 723235
07976 393631 




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Re: [NF] Business Notebook Recommendations

[Dan Covill]

On 06/26/12 15:08, Michael Madigan wrote:
> I think the bottom line is to only use a laptop when you need to go mobile, 
> and make sure everything else you have is a desktop.
>

I agree with that completely.  Notebooks are 'cool', but they are less 
efficient to use, less robust, and (most important in a business 
environment) difficult and costly to repair.

Dan

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Re: [NF] Internet Explorer 7 "tax"

[Paul Hill]

On 27 June 2012 16:39, Alan Bourke  wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012, at 03:41 PM, Paul Hill wrote:
>> ...and customer lost.
>
> Yep, customer singular or customers in small numbers.

Depending who you believe it could be as much as 6%
http://netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=3&qpaf=&qpcustom=Microsoft+Internet+Explorer+6.0&qpcustomb=0

-- 
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Re: Repair vcx

[Jean MAURICE]

Try to have a look to all the recent .tmp files in the VFP tmp directory. You 
can try to open them with a USE the one to open being the smaller one of each 
name 

hth
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Re: [NF] Internet Explorer 7 "tax"

[Alan Bourke]

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012, at 03:41 PM, Paul Hill wrote:
> ...and customer lost.

Yep, customer singular or customers in small numbers.
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Re: [NF] Internet Explorer 7 "tax"

[Ted Roche]

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox)
 wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Paul Hill  wrote:
>> ...and customer lost.
>
> True, but it is a cost/benefit.

Not my original work, but agree with the sentiment:

http://www.tedroche.com/Present/2009/css/web-design.gif


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Re: [NF] Internet Explorer 7 "tax"

[Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox)]

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Paul Hill  wrote:
> ...and customer lost.

True, but it is a cost/benefit. Probably pretty easy for most
ecommerce sites to calculate. How many sales from IE7 customers versus
the cost of backwardly conforming. If you sell to old farts like me,
probably worth the effort to support IE7. If you sell to a young
demographic, probably not. If you sell to geeks, just post a page
saying "are you insane?"

Ken

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RE: Repair vcx

[John Harvey]

My first thought is "restore from backup."

John

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Of Richard Kaye
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 9:38 AM
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Subject: RE: Repair vcx 

That means the memo portion of the table has a problem. You're going to need
a more sophisticated tool such as Abri Recover to repair memo corruption and
restoring from a recent backup, if you have one, will be the fastest route. 

--
rk

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Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:20 AM
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Subject: RE: Repair vcx 

VCT is missing or invalid

Have tried tablevalidate 0 and that doesn't work.


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Re: [NF] Internet Explorer 7 "tax"

[Paul Hill]

...and customer lost.

On 27 June 2012 09:25, Alan Bourke  wrote:
> Yeah a few outfits have done similar now. Just don't support anything
> under IE8. Problem solved.

-- 
Paul

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RE: Repair vcx

[Richard Kaye]

That means the memo portion of the table has a problem. You're going to need a 
more sophisticated tool such as Abri Recover to repair memo corruption and 
restoring from a recent backup, if you have one, will be the fastest route. 

--
rk

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VCT is missing or invalid

Have tried tablevalidate 0 and that doesn't work.


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RE: Repair vcx

[Graham Brown]

VCT is missing or invalid

Have tried tablevalidate 0 and that doesn't work.


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It depends on the type of corruption. Can you open the VCX as a table? 

--
rk

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Hi all

Just had a power cut and one of my vcx files is now corrupted.

Is there a simple way to recover the vcx without restoring backups.

Regards

Graham Brown


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Re: [NF] in email or in tasks I still don't like them.

[Jean Laeremans]

LOL

A+
jml

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Stephen Russell  wrote:
> 

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RE: Repair vcx

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It depends on the type of corruption. Can you open the VCX as a table? 

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Hi all

Just had a power cut and one of my vcx files is now corrupted.

Is there a simple way to recover the vcx without restoring backups.

Regards

Graham Brown


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[NF] in email or in tasks I still don't like them.

[Stephen Russell]

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RE: [OT] Here's one for Pete - Gay Rights Icon arrested on child porn charges.

[Adam Buckland]

It's objectionable and horrible whatever  sexual orientation does this.. even 
worse are those producing it. I'm sure every parent like myself shudder at the 
thought of this happening to one of our children.

To try and make political capital out of child molestation  is low even for you 
Mike

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charges.

Here's something Adam can actually get angry with, he was a 
White Supremacist baby molester.  

" “I loved especially the ni**er 2 year old getting nailed. Hope you’ll 
continue so I can see what the little blond bi*ch is going to get. White Power! 
White Supremacy! White D*ck Rules!”"


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charges.

I'm sure that he was 'doing research' as part of a sting operation to catch 
those who are so far gone as to find this sort of stuff acceptable. 


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On Jun 26, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Michael Madigan  wrote:

> It doesn't matter how this happens over and over again, they'll still say 
> it's rare.  
> 
> 
> http://www.theblaze.com/stories/66-year-old-gay-rights-icon-arrested-over-horrific-child-pornography-allegations-graphic-content/
>  
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Re: [NF] Internet Explorer 7 "tax"

[Alan Bourke]

Yeah a few outfits have done similar now. Just don't support anything
under IE8. Problem solved.
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Re: [NF] Business Notebook Recommendations

[Jean Laeremans]

We have hundreds HP Elitebooks here. NP whatsoever.

A+
jml

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Michael Oke, II  wrote:
> Not sure why you would have been told to avoid HP as I've found them to be 
> rock solid. I'm leery of Dell but not for a truly quantitative reason. I have 
> clients using then with little to no problems. Lenovo has been getting solid 
> reviews lately and I would give them a good look.
>
>
> Michael Oke, II
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