Re: VFPEncryption71.fll hanging up Inno Setup compile (RESOLVED)
On 2014-05-05 21:54, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: Ran it as Administrator and got it to run, but it still doesn't find anything with a handle on it!!! UGH. Restarted; ran Inno Script Studio setup and got the same freakin' hangup on vfpencryption71.fll. Here's the screenshot showing my Inno Studio problem, and me trying the HANDLE command afterwards with it finding no hangup: http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com/images/still_problem.png I am 99% sure this is related to this freakin' A/V software. It's McAfee--it came with the new laptop. I prefer AVAST or AVG myself. --Mike Turning off RealTime scanning in McAfee fixed the issue. Now onto REAL problems. :-) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/812579b61e1ec743df6c86562d1f7...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFPEncryption71.fll hanging up Inno Setup compile
Ran it as Administrator and got it to run, but it still doesn't find anything with a handle on it!!! UGH. Restarted; ran Inno Script Studio setup and got the same freakin' hangup on vfpencryption71.fll. Here's the screenshot showing my Inno Studio problem, and me trying the HANDLE command afterwards with it finding no hangup: http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com/images/still_problem.png I am 99% sure this is related to this freakin' A/V software. It's McAfee--it came with the new laptop. I prefer AVAST or AVG myself. --Mike On 2014-05-04 16:20, Alan Bourke wrote: On Sun, May 4, 2014, at 09:05 PM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: I downloaded sysinternals and went to the command prompt and entered handle vfpencryption71.fll and a few variations and it seems to not like my command (because I'm definitely logged in as an administrator role). See http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com/images/sysinternal_handle_error.png. You still need to run the prompt as administrator explicitly - right click on the shortcut and 'Run As Administrator' or do it the way you have been and use runas: runas /user:administrator handle vfp*.fll [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/0c27fdae18f5ef88747fc779b2c09...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Web crawler for browser history?
...cool, except it doesn't actually search the contents of the pages, just the URL. :( But, thanks...I guess. Mike Kurt @ VR-FX wrote: I think you have that wrong - you shoulda wrote GOOD Stephen - as I didn't know about that - and you gave Mike the Perfect answer! I just tried it out - VERY Cool indeed... Techies tend to know the Coolest things... :-) -K- On 5/5/2014 5:37 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: ^H for history. Bad __Stephen On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: Seeing as how this is an above-average tech-savvy group, and since I'm having no luck anywhere else I've searched... Anyone ever hear of a way to search for something you've seen on a web page in the last X days? For example, if you stumbled across an article about Abraham Lincoln a couple days ago, but you don't remember the website or anything other than a snippit of text... In other words, is there a way, or a utility, that would go through your browser history, connect to the pages in the history of URLs, and then search the content of those pages for a text string you specify? I've been looking through add-on apps for Chrome and Firefox and haven't found anything even close. Ah well, there's always the manual method... Mike Copeland [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/53683034.5080...@ggisoft.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Web crawler for browser history?
I think you have that wrong - you shoulda wrote GOOD Stephen - as I didn't know about that - and you gave Mike the Perfect answer! I just tried it out - VERY Cool indeed... Techies tend to know the Coolest things... :-) -K- On 5/5/2014 5:37 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: ^H for history. Bad __Stephen On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: Seeing as how this is an above-average tech-savvy group, and since I'm having no luck anywhere else I've searched... Anyone ever hear of a way to search for something you've seen on a web page in the last X days? For example, if you stumbled across an article about Abraham Lincoln a couple days ago, but you don't remember the website or anything other than a snippit of text... In other words, is there a way, or a utility, that would go through your browser history, connect to the pages in the history of URLs, and then search the content of those pages for a text string you specify? I've been looking through add-on apps for Chrome and Firefox and haven't found anything even close. Ah well, there's always the manual method... Mike Copeland [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/536822a5.7010...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Web crawler for browser history?
^H for history. Bad __Stephen On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: > Seeing as how this is an above-average tech-savvy group, and since I'm > having no luck anywhere else I've searched... > > Anyone ever hear of a way to search for something you've seen on a web > page in the last X days? > > For example, if you stumbled across an article about Abraham Lincoln a > couple days ago, but you don't remember the website or anything other than > a snippit of text... > > In other words, is there a way, or a utility, that would go through your > browser history, connect to the pages in the history of URLs, and then > search the content of those pages for a text string you specify? > > I've been looking through add-on apps for Chrome and Firefox and haven't > found anything even close. Ah well, there's always the manual method... > > Mike Copeland > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CAJidMYK0xs6C8QeRKYXAz=WxZsXYrC9i-U_p_n4GjqC-n7he=a...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Web crawler for browser history?
Seeing as how this is an above-average tech-savvy group, and since I'm having no luck anywhere else I've searched... Anyone ever hear of a way to search for something you've seen on a web page in the last X days? For example, if you stumbled across an article about Abraham Lincoln a couple days ago, but you don't remember the website or anything other than a snippit of text... In other words, is there a way, or a utility, that would go through your browser history, connect to the pages in the history of URLs, and then search the content of those pages for a text string you specify? I've been looking through add-on apps for Chrome and Firefox and haven't found anything even close. Ah well, there's always the manual method... Mike Copeland ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/536800af.3090...@ggisoft.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP6: Silly Grid Question
Check AllowCellSelection. Jerry -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Desmond Lloyd Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 2:40 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: VFP6: Silly Grid Question OK, Defined a grid, data is not changed in the grid, display only. Marked the grid as read only, works fine, however I would like to have the user double click on a row and execute the click method of a button on the form. (Display details) Put the code in the double click event and no joy. Changed grid from read only and make the individual columns read only. Data is not changeable, have added the thisform.cmdedit.click() in various double click methods in the text property, column and the grid, all to no avail... Is this possible in VFP6, read only data displayed, double click somewhere and execute a button click? Regards, Desmond --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/EDDC684A25834F88A62974167C3F5C4D@jerryfootePC ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP6: Silly Grid Question
Thank you very much! Am in the middle of wrapping up some of the other details on the detail screen, simple things like editing etc. Will wrap up that and utilize your code to see what the blue blazes is going on Appreciate your help and input! Regards, Desmond On 5 May 2014 15:35, Jack Skelley wrote: > Desmond: > Not sure why your double click in the textbox of a grid does not fire. I > have many instances where in a readonly = .t. grid the double click / right > click event fires and does 'something' in VFP 6 SP5. > For example a double click in a memo field in the grid takes that content > and displays in in a larger editbox on a separate modal form. Also the > rightclick event does the doubleclick method. > This is out of a 2 column grid with a checkbox and a textbox. > Grid setup: > ColumnCount = 2 > FontBold = .T. > FontSize = 8 > AllowRowSizing = .F. > DeleteMark = .F. > Height = 511 > Left = 12 > Panel = 1 > RecordMark = .F. > RowHeight = 17 > ScrollBars = 0 > TabIndex = 4 > ToolTipText = "Click name or check box at left to send the selected file > to this scout...click again to uncheck..." > Top = 22 > Width = 188 > Name = "Grid1" > Column1.FontBold = .T. > Column1.FontSize = 8 > Column1.ControlSource = "" > Column1.Width = 40 > Column1.Movable = .F. > Column1.Resizable = .F. > Column1.ReadOnly = .F. > Column1.Sparse = .F. > Column1.Visible = .T. > Column1.DynamicBackColor = > "IIF(MOD(RECNO(),2)=1,RGB(255,255,255),RGB(192,220,192))" > Column1.Name = "Column1" > Column2.FontBold = .T. > Column2.FontSize = 8 > Column2.ControlSource = "" > Column2.Enabled = .T. > Column2.Width = 145 > Column2.Movable = .F. > Column2.Resizable = .F. > Column2.ReadOnly = .T. > Column2.Visible = .T. > Column2.SelectOnEntry = .F. > Column2.DynamicBackColor = > "IIF(MOD(RECNO(),2)=1,RGB(255,255,255),RGB(192,220,192))" > Column2.DynamicForeColor = 'iif(t_level<"3",rgb(255,0,0),rgb(0,0,0))' > Column2.Name = "Column2" > > This is in the textbox methods > PROCEDURE DblClick > thisform.cntScouts.grid1.column1.check1.value = .f. > ENDPROC > PROCEDURE Click > if thisform.lstAttachments.listcount = 0 then > thisform.cntScouts.grid1.column1.check1.value = .f. > wait window "Please Make A File Selection Before Selecting A Recipient > Scout..." timeout 2 > return > endif > if thisform.lstAttachments.listcount > 0 and > thisform.lstAttachments.listindex = 0 then > thisform.cntScouts.grid1.column1.check1.value = .f. > wait window "Please Make A File Selection Before Selecting A Recipient > Scout..." timeout 2 > return > endif > if left(tScouts.t_name,5) = "-" then > thisform.cntScouts.grid1.column1.check1.value = .f. > wait window "This Entry Can Not Be Selected..." timeout 2 > return > endif > if tScouts.t_mail then > thisform.cntScouts.grid1.column1.check1.value = .f. > else > thisform.cntScouts.grid1.column1.check1.value = .t. > endif > thisform.cntScouts.grid1.column1.check1.click() > thisform.cntScouts.grid1.refresh() > ENDPROC > PROCEDURE When > if thisform.lstAttachments.listcount = 0 then > wait window "Please Make A File Selection Before Selecting A Recipient > Scout..." timeout 2 > return > endif > if thisform.lstAttachments.listcount > 0 and > thisform.lstAttachments.listindex = 0 then > wait window "Please Make A File Selection Before Selecting A Recipient > Scout..." timeout 2 > return > endif > ENDPROC > > The checkbox control has basically more of the same... > Perhaps this will allow you to compare why your events are not firing. > Jack > > > > > Jack Skelley > Senior Director, Programming/Computer Operations > New Jersey Devils > (973)757-6164 > jskel...@newjerseydevils.com > From: ProfoxTech [profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] on behalf of Desmond > Lloyd [desmond.ll...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 3:39 PM > To: profoxt...@leafe.com > Subject: VFP6: Silly Grid Question > > OK, > > Defined a grid, data is not changed in the grid, display only. Marked > the grid as read only, works fine, however I would like to have the user > double click on a row and execute the click method of a button on the > form. (Display details) > > Put the code in the double click event and no joy. Changed grid from read > only and make the individual columns read only. Data is not changeable, > have added the thisform.cmdedit.click() in various double click methods in > the text property, column and the grid, all to no avail... > > Is this possible in VFP6, read only data displayed, double click > somewhere and execute a button click? > > Regards, > Desmond > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > multipart/alternative > text/plain (text body -- kept) > text/html > --- > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mai
Re: VFP6: Silly Grid Question
Thank you, That's what I've got And it works, think it is cool to be able to double click on the row you are at to display/edit the details for the record selected. On 5 May 2014 15:17, Sytze de Boer wrote: > What happens if you have a simple Command button (to do exactly the same as > a double click on the highlighted row) > > > > On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 8:14 AM, jerry foote wrote: > > > Check AllowCellSelection. > > Jerry > > > > -Original Message- > > From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Desmond > Lloyd > > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 2:40 PM > > To: ProFox Email List > > Subject: VFP6: Silly Grid Question > > > > OK, > > > > Defined a grid, data is not changed in the grid, display only. Marked > > the grid as read only, works fine, however I would like to have the user > > double click on a row and execute the click method of a button on the > > form. (Display details) > > > > Put the code in the double click event and no joy. Changed grid from > read > > only and make the individual columns read only. Data is not changeable, > > have added the thisform.cmdedit.click() in various double click methods > in > > the text property, column and the grid, all to no avail... > > > > Is this possible in VFP6, read only data displayed, double click > > somewhere and execute a button click? > > > > Regards, > > Desmond > > > > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > > multipart/alternative > > text/plain (text body -- kept) > > text/html > > --- > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/caajxvan_ju2yuklitaw7vw4jcghy3hg98g2fmwtbkcm+8_f...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP6: Silly Grid Question
Desmond: Not sure why your double click in the textbox of a grid does not fire. I have many instances where in a readonly = .t. grid the double click / right click event fires and does 'something' in VFP 6 SP5. For example a double click in a memo field in the grid takes that content and displays in in a larger editbox on a separate modal form. Also the rightclick event does the doubleclick method. This is out of a 2 column grid with a checkbox and a textbox. Grid setup: ColumnCount = 2 FontBold = .T. FontSize = 8 AllowRowSizing = .F. DeleteMark = .F. Height = 511 Left = 12 Panel = 1 RecordMark = .F. RowHeight = 17 ScrollBars = 0 TabIndex = 4 ToolTipText = "Click name or check box at left to send the selected file to this scout...click again to uncheck..." Top = 22 Width = 188 Name = "Grid1" Column1.FontBold = .T. Column1.FontSize = 8 Column1.ControlSource = "" Column1.Width = 40 Column1.Movable = .F. Column1.Resizable = .F. Column1.ReadOnly = .F. Column1.Sparse = .F. Column1.Visible = .T. Column1.DynamicBackColor = "IIF(MOD(RECNO(),2)=1,RGB(255,255,255),RGB(192,220,192))" Column1.Name = "Column1" Column2.FontBold = .T. Column2.FontSize = 8 Column2.ControlSource = "" Column2.Enabled = .T. Column2.Width = 145 Column2.Movable = .F. Column2.Resizable = .F. Column2.ReadOnly = .T. Column2.Visible = .T. Column2.SelectOnEntry = .F. Column2.DynamicBackColor = "IIF(MOD(RECNO(),2)=1,RGB(255,255,255),RGB(192,220,192))" Column2.DynamicForeColor = 'iif(t_level<"3",rgb(255,0,0),rgb(0,0,0))' Column2.Name = "Column2" This is in the textbox methods PROCEDURE DblClick thisform.cntScouts.grid1.column1.check1.value = .f. ENDPROC PROCEDURE Click if thisform.lstAttachments.listcount = 0 then thisform.cntScouts.grid1.column1.check1.value = .f. wait window "Please Make A File Selection Before Selecting A Recipient Scout..." timeout 2 return endif if thisform.lstAttachments.listcount > 0 and thisform.lstAttachments.listindex = 0 then thisform.cntScouts.grid1.column1.check1.value = .f. wait window "Please Make A File Selection Before Selecting A Recipient Scout..." timeout 2 return endif if left(tScouts.t_name,5) = "-" then thisform.cntScouts.grid1.column1.check1.value = .f. wait window "This Entry Can Not Be Selected..." timeout 2 return endif if tScouts.t_mail then thisform.cntScouts.grid1.column1.check1.value = .f. else thisform.cntScouts.grid1.column1.check1.value = .t. endif thisform.cntScouts.grid1.column1.check1.click() thisform.cntScouts.grid1.refresh() ENDPROC PROCEDURE When if thisform.lstAttachments.listcount = 0 then wait window "Please Make A File Selection Before Selecting A Recipient Scout..." timeout 2 return endif if thisform.lstAttachments.listcount > 0 and thisform.lstAttachments.listindex = 0 then wait window "Please Make A File Selection Before Selecting A Recipient Scout..." timeout 2 return endif ENDPROC The checkbox control has basically more of the same... Perhaps this will allow you to compare why your events are not firing. Jack Jack Skelley Senior Director, Programming/Computer Operations New Jersey Devils (973)757-6164 jskel...@newjerseydevils.com From: ProfoxTech [profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] on behalf of Desmond Lloyd [desmond.ll...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 3:39 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: VFP6: Silly Grid Question OK, Defined a grid, data is not changed in the grid, display only. Marked the grid as read only, works fine, however I would like to have the user double click on a row and execute the click method of a button on the form. (Display details) Put the code in the double click event and no joy. Changed grid from read only and make the individual columns read only. Data is not changeable, have added the thisform.cmdedit.click() in various double click methods in the text property, column and the grid, all to no avail... Is this possible in VFP6, read only data displayed, double click somewhere and execute a button click? Regards, Desmond --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/7d9e7f72b813014c8fd022cf04f820edf36ce...@ex08.drdad.thenewarkarena.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP6: Silly Grid Question
What happens if you have a simple Command button (to do exactly the same as a double click on the highlighted row) On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 8:14 AM, jerry foote wrote: > Check AllowCellSelection. > Jerry > > -Original Message- > From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Desmond Lloyd > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 2:40 PM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: VFP6: Silly Grid Question > > OK, > > Defined a grid, data is not changed in the grid, display only. Marked > the grid as read only, works fine, however I would like to have the user > double click on a row and execute the click method of a button on the > form. (Display details) > > Put the code in the double click event and no joy. Changed grid from read > only and make the individual columns read only. Data is not changeable, > have added the thisform.cmdedit.click() in various double click methods in > the text property, column and the grid, all to no avail... > > Is this possible in VFP6, read only data displayed, double click > somewhere and execute a button click? > > Regards, > Desmond > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > multipart/alternative > text/plain (text body -- kept) > text/html > --- > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cag1nny-phs8iaddbvjshyuaf3vq277vlt6p71ckojxfp2x8...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
VFP6: Silly Grid Question
OK, Defined a grid, data is not changed in the grid, display only. Marked the grid as read only, works fine, however I would like to have the user double click on a row and execute the click method of a button on the form. (Display details) Put the code in the double click event and no joy. Changed grid from read only and make the individual columns read only. Data is not changeable, have added the thisform.cmdedit.click() in various double click methods in the text property, column and the grid, all to no avail... Is this possible in VFP6, read only data displayed, double click somewhere and execute a button click? Regards, Desmond --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CAAJXvaNt_Mf-=g3S2f=agdvj-sb6na6vkl5uftl9e0kf_w1...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Billing Question
On 2014-05-05 13:50, Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox) wrote: On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 8:10 AM, wrote: You don't bill for communication time like that? I do (sometimes). Of course you do! I bill them if I am actively working (like writing code), thinking about their project, dreaming about their project, traveling to their office, or running some long procedure (like a conversion routine). In the last case, I may be thinking, coding, dreaming about some *other* client project, in which case I bill them *both*. If they tie me up on the phone, yeah, that's billable. That's time I could have been developing. Now I'm talking 30 minutes, not something like 5 minutes. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/5ec12b5ad60f99c22e7a7f2bfdd62...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Billing Question
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 8:10 AM, wrote: > And in case it wasn't obvious, charging the full rate might just keep >> you out of those time sucking, time wasting conference calls where you >> get to listen to folks pontificate on stuff they know nothing >> about.. >> > > You don't bill for communication time like that? I do (sometimes). > Of course you do! I bill them if I am actively working (like writing code), thinking about their project, dreaming about their project, traveling to their office, or running some long procedure (like a conversion routine). In the last case, I may be thinking, coding, dreaming about some *other* client project, in which case I bill them *both*. Of course, for me as Paul, I haven't had this problem for quite some time. I have fantasized about having a multi-tier rate card live I have seen (tongue in cheek) for tradespeople: Rate = X per hour Rate if you watch me: (X * 1.5) per hour Rate if you advise me: (X * 2) per hour Rate if you Help me: (X * 5) per hour Only mine would be: Rate = X per Hour Rate for teleconferences: (X * 2) per hour Rate for meetings: (X * 10) per hour Seriously, if you contemplate a different rate because your skills are lower, spend the time to get them to "respectable" then bill at your normal rate. Eat a few hours here and there if you don't feel productive, but bill at the normal rate. Ken --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CAFyV=L=QX6vtvgCDJZNcCCp7cQb=XEVhTGccAbDjz7XXFm=d...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.