Re: [OT] - Could hear a pin drop

2016-11-10 Thread Ricardo Araoz

LOL
Your answer reminded me of how the Donald would answer any serious 
statement in the presidential debates.  A lot of words, demeaning, and 
no real substance underneath all that.



On 09/11/16 22:33, Michael Oke, II wrote:

Your logic is so flawed that I'm not even sure what you are trying to say.


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On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Ricardo Araoz  wrote:


Now we will be able to ascertain some things. If he manages to end his
four years without getting into a really stupid war, and without pressing
the atomic button, and without making a fool of his country, and without
bankrupting USA, then we will know that the president is just a figurehead
and that it's the corporations that really rule the USA.
OTOH well, it's been a good life so far, only comfort is that those
responsible will go down first.



On 09/11/16 14:26, Stephen Russell wrote:


Enough of the people who were sick and tired of the same old shit from our
leaders stood up and said UP YOURS.

Now can he lead a country better than he campaigned?  Has the secret
service terminated his twitter account yet?

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Jean Laeremans <
laeremans.jeanma...@gmail.com> wrote:

The fools have taken over the asylum

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 5:22 PM, Adam Buckland <
adam.buckl...@eurohill.com>
wrote:

Britain : Brexit was the stupidest, most self-destructive act a country

could ever undertake.

USA : Hold my drink


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Excel 2016 & windows 10

2016-11-10 Thread Jean Laeremans
Hi all,

Any reason why 'createobj("excel.application")' doesn't work with this
combo ?
Cannot test it myself as i don't have it.

A+

jml


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RE: Excel 2016 & windows 10

2016-11-10 Thread Dave Crozier
No problems here  works every time 2013 and 2016 Windows 10 and 7 64Bit

Dave

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Hi all,

Any reason why 'createobj("excel.application")' doesn't work with this combo ?
Cannot test it myself as i don't have it.

A+

jml


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RE: Excel 2016 & windows 10

2016-11-10 Thread Tracy Pearson
Dave Crozier wrote on 2016-11-10: 
>  No problems here  works every time 2013 and 2016 Windows 10 and 7
64Bit
>  
>  Dave
>  
>  -Original Message-
>  From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Jean
Laeremans
>  Sent: 10 November 2016 15:40
>  To: ProFox Email List 
>  Subject: Excel 2016 & windows 10
>  
>  Hi all,
>  
>  Any reason why 'createobj("excel.application")' doesn't work with this
combo ?
>  Cannot test it myself as i don't have it.
>  
>  A+
>  
>  jml
> 

JML,

When the Office is 64-bit, this will fail. 

Tracy Pearson
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RE: Excel 2016 & windows 10

2016-11-10 Thread Dave Crozier
I didn't think anyone used office 64bit as it has NEVER worked correctly. . 
I agree if this is the case though...

Dave

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Sent: 10 November 2016 16:10
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: RE: Excel 2016 & windows 10

Dave Crozier wrote on 2016-11-10: 
>  No problems here  works every time 2013 and 2016 Windows 10 and 7
64Bit
>  
>  Dave
>  
>  -Original Message-
>  From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Jean
Laeremans
>  Sent: 10 November 2016 15:40
>  To: ProFox Email List 
>  Subject: Excel 2016 & windows 10
>  
>  Hi all,
>  
>  Any reason why 'createobj("excel.application")' doesn't work with this
combo ?
>  Cannot test it myself as i don't have it.
>  
>  A+
>  
>  jml
> 

JML,

When the Office is 64-bit, this will fail. 

Tracy Pearson
PowerChurch Software


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Re: Excel 2016 & windows 10

2016-11-10 Thread Jean Laeremans
Just let them check. They didn't make that any simpler btw. It's 32 bit

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Dave Crozier  wrote:

> I didn't think anyone used office 64bit as it has NEVER worked correctly.
> . I agree if this is the case though...
>
> Dave
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Tracy Pearson
> Sent: 10 November 2016 16:10
> To: profox@leafe.com
> Subject: RE: Excel 2016 & windows 10
>
> Dave Crozier wrote on 2016-11-10:
> >  No problems here  works every time 2013 and 2016 Windows 10 and 7
> 64Bit
> >
> >  Dave
> >
> >  -Original Message-
> >  From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Jean
> Laeremans
> >  Sent: 10 November 2016 15:40
> >  To: ProFox Email List 
> >  Subject: Excel 2016 & windows 10
> >
> >  Hi all,
> >
> >  Any reason why 'createobj("excel.application")' doesn't work with this
> combo ?
> >  Cannot test it myself as i don't have it.
> >
> >  A+
> >
> >  jml
> >
>
> JML,
>
> When the Office is 64-bit, this will fail.
>
> Tracy Pearson
> PowerChurch Software
>
>
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RE: Excel 2016 & windows 10

2016-11-10 Thread Dave Crozier
My post was somewhat vague... I meant Windows 10 and 7 64 bit not Office... 
sorry!

Dave

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Sent: 10 November 2016 16:12
To: ProFox Email List 
Subject: RE: Excel 2016 & windows 10

I didn't think anyone used office 64bit as it has NEVER worked correctly. . 
I agree if this is the case though...

Dave

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From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Tracy Pearson
Sent: 10 November 2016 16:10
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: RE: Excel 2016 & windows 10

Dave Crozier wrote on 2016-11-10: 
>  No problems here  works every time 2013 and 2016 Windows 10 and 7
64Bit
>  
>  Dave
>  
>  -Original Message-
>  From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Jean
Laeremans
>  Sent: 10 November 2016 15:40
>  To: ProFox Email List 
>  Subject: Excel 2016 & windows 10
>  
>  Hi all,
>  
>  Any reason why 'createobj("excel.application")' doesn't work with this
combo ?
>  Cannot test it myself as i don't have it.
>  
>  A+
>  
>  jml
> 

JML,

When the Office is 64-bit, this will fail. 

Tracy Pearson
PowerChurch Software


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Re: Do you rebuild your indexes every night or do you leave them alone.

2016-11-10 Thread Stephen Russell
All a function on what columns of data are included in an index.

No if you have PKeys that are incremental INTs.  That is FINE.

Yes if you have an index on a heavy INSERTed table, Customer, and LastName
is indexed because the index will have to break pages to add new data.  Not
sure if you can set the open space of an index in Marina for character type
columns.  You don't want to tighten the free space in those index pages
real tight because you will get a lot of new pages as more data comes in.
When you have inserts down the road you may have more time keeping your
indexes correct and you say that your system is slow.

Hint Hint here.  Numerous character indexes that are rarely used will slow
down high speed inserts all the time.  Using a table for Names and placing
that KEY into the Customer table is superior to freely typing the last name
"Williams" in that LastName column.




On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Mike Copeland  wrote:

> Richard Kaye wrote:
>
>> Checking the health of indexes and refreshing statistics in an MS-SQL
>> environment is a best practice.
>>
>> https://ola.hallengren.com/
>>
>> --
>>
>> rk
>>
>
> Anyone have input on whether "checking the health of indexes" is
> necessary or recommended in a MariaDB environment?
>
> Mike Copeland
>
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Re: [OT] - Could hear a pin drop

2016-11-10 Thread Michael Oke, II
But of course it wasn't demeaning and and contained a simple, yet
substantial, statement that you were unable to clarify so you chose to
attack me.  Congrats Killary.



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On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 4:54 AM, Ricardo Araoz  wrote:

> LOL
> Your answer reminded me of how the Donald would answer any serious
> statement in the presidential debates.  A lot of words, demeaning, and no
> real substance underneath all that.
>
>
>
> On 09/11/16 22:33, Michael Oke, II wrote:
>
>> Your logic is so flawed that I'm not even sure what you are trying to say.
>>
>>
>> -
>> Michael Oke, II
>> oke...@gmail.com
>> 661-349-6221
>> -
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Ricardo Araoz  wrote:
>>
>> Now we will be able to ascertain some things. If he manages to end his
>>> four years without getting into a really stupid war, and without pressing
>>> the atomic button, and without making a fool of his country, and without
>>> bankrupting USA, then we will know that the president is just a
>>> figurehead
>>> and that it's the corporations that really rule the USA.
>>> OTOH well, it's been a good life so far, only comfort is that those
>>> responsible will go down first.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09/11/16 14:26, Stephen Russell wrote:
>>>
>>> Enough of the people who were sick and tired of the same old shit from
 our
 leaders stood up and said UP YOURS.

 Now can he lead a country better than he campaigned?  Has the secret
 service terminated his twitter account yet?

 On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Jean Laeremans <
 laeremans.jeanma...@gmail.com> wrote:

 The fools have taken over the asylum

> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 5:22 PM, Adam Buckland <
> adam.buckl...@eurohill.com>
> wrote:
>
> Britain : Brexit was the stupidest, most self-destructive act a country
>
>> could ever undertake.
>>
>> USA : Hold my drink
>>
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Re: [OT] - Could hear a pin drop

2016-11-10 Thread Ricardo Araoz
Hey Michael, hello! Look, I'm not a US citizen. I'm from that legendary 
land beyond your frontier. You know, the rest of the world? So for me 
it's not either or, I couldn't care less for Hillary. You know, in 
legendary land politics is not one dimensional, we don't define 
ourselves that way (well, you know, educated people), we usually don't 
fall for simplistic answers, we think and debate.


But please, clean your foaming lips, let's not fight. You don't have to 
agree with my statement, just remember it and read it again in four 
years that is, if you still have computers or, maybe the 
corporations have the power, then when you read it try to remember what 
Trump looked like before being elected.


Actually, knowing a bit about your recent history, and considering the 
vice president is well accepted by the GOP leadership, if I were Trump 
I'd step very carefully and never ride an open car through the streets 
of Dallas.



On 10/11/16 16:23, Michael Oke, II wrote:

But of course it wasn't demeaning and and contained a simple, yet
substantial, statement that you were unable to clarify so you chose to
attack me.  Congrats Killary.



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oke...@gmail.com
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On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 4:54 AM, Ricardo Araoz  wrote:


LOL
Your answer reminded me of how the Donald would answer any serious
statement in the presidential debates.  A lot of words, demeaning, and no
real substance underneath all that.



On 09/11/16 22:33, Michael Oke, II wrote:


Your logic is so flawed that I'm not even sure what you are trying to say.


-
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On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Ricardo Araoz  wrote:

Now we will be able to ascertain some things. If he manages to end his

four years without getting into a really stupid war, and without pressing
the atomic button, and without making a fool of his country, and without
bankrupting USA, then we will know that the president is just a
figurehead
and that it's the corporations that really rule the USA.
OTOH well, it's been a good life so far, only comfort is that those
responsible will go down first.



On 09/11/16 14:26, Stephen Russell wrote:

Enough of the people who were sick and tired of the same old shit from

our
leaders stood up and said UP YOURS.

Now can he lead a country better than he campaigned?  Has the secret
service terminated his twitter account yet?

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Jean Laeremans <
laeremans.jeanma...@gmail.com> wrote:

The fools have taken over the asylum


On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 5:22 PM, Adam Buckland <
adam.buckl...@eurohill.com>
wrote:

Britain : Brexit was the stupidest, most self-destructive act a country


could ever undertake.

USA : Hold my drink


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[ADMIN] Brief database interruption

2016-11-10 Thread Ed Leafe
I worked a little bit today on the DB that holds (among other things) the mail 
list archives, and fat-fingered a command and messed things up. I restored from 
my last good backup (yes, always have a backup!) but that was from a little 
over 24 hours ago, so the more recent messages are missing. I will try to 
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RE: [ADMIN] Brief database interruption

2016-11-10 Thread Mike McCann
Thanks for your work over all these years.

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I worked a little bit today on the DB that holds (among other things) the
mail list archives, and fat-fingered a command and messed things up. I
restored from my last good backup (yes, always have a backup!) but that was
from a little over 24 hours ago, so the more recent messages are missing. I
will try to restore them if I have the time tomorrow.


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Re: Do you rebuild your indexes every night or do you leave them alone.

2016-11-10 Thread Michael Madigan
I don't get corruption, I just do it anyway.  


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To: ProFox Mailing List 
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Do you rebuild your indexes every night or do you leave them alone.

On Nov 9, 2016, at 5:05 PM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:
> 
>> Anyone have input on whether "checking the health of indexes" is
>> necessary or recommended in a MariaDB environment?
> 
> I use MariaDB.  Never been an issue.  Customers never complained about speed, 
> and no problems with tables.  And that's over a period of 10+ years (with 
> MySQL being used prior to MariaDB).

The ProFox archives are stored in MariaDB, and I’ve never even considered 
reindexing. IMO, that sounds like something is wrong with your t t  hardware if 
you find it necessary to reindex constantly.

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Re: [OT] - Could hear a pin drop

2016-11-10 Thread Michael Madigan
You better sneak into the country now before he builds the wall



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From: Ricardo Araoz 
To: ProFox Email List 
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] - Could hear a pin drop

Hey Michael, hello! Look, I'm not a US citizen. I'm from that legendary 
land beyond your frontier. You know, the rest of the world? So for me 
it's not either or, I couldn't care less for Hillary. You know, in 
legendary land politics is not one dimensional, we don't define 
ourselves that way (well, you know, educated people), we usually don't 
fall for simplistic answers, we think and debate.

But please, clean your foaming lips, let's not fight. You don't have to 
agree with my statement, just remember it and read it again in four 
years that is, if you still have computers or, maybe the 
corporations have the power, then when you read it try to remember what 
Trump looked like before being elected.

Actually, knowing a bit about your recent history, and considering the 
vice president is well accepted by the GOP leadership, if I were Trump 
I'd step very carefully and never ride an open car through the streets 
of Dallas.


On 10/11/16 16:23, Michael Oke, II wrote:
> But of course it wasn't demeaning and and contained a simple, yet
> substantial, statement that you were unable to clarify so you chose to
> attack me.  Congrats Killary.
>
>
>
> -
> Michael Oke, II
> oke...@gmail.com
> 661-349-6221
> -
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 4:54 AM, Ricardo Araoz  wrote:
>
>> LOL
>> Your answer reminded me of how the Donald would answer any serious
>> statement in the presidential debates.  A lot of words, demeaning, and no
>> real substance underneath all that.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 09/11/16 22:33, Michael Oke, II wrote:
>>
>>> Your logic is so flawed that I'm not even sure what you are trying to say.
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Michael Oke, II
>>> oke...@gmail.com
>>> 661-349-6221
>>> -
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Ricardo Araoz  wrote:
>>>
>>> Now we will be able to ascertain some things. If he manages to end his
 four years without getting into a really stupid war, and without pressing
 the atomic button, and without making a fool of his country, and without
 bankrupting USA, then we will know that the president is just a
 figurehead
 and that it's the corporations that really rule the USA.
 OTOH well, it's been a good life so far, only comfort is that those
 responsible will go down first.



 On 09/11/16 14:26, Stephen Russell wrote:

 Enough of the people who were sick and tired of the same old shit from
> our
> leaders stood up and said UP YOURS.
>
> Now can he lead a country better than he campaigned?  Has the secret
> service terminated his twitter account yet?
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Jean Laeremans <
> laeremans.jeanma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The fools have taken over the asylum
>
>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 5:22 PM, Adam Buckland <
>> adam.buckl...@eurohill.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Britain : Brexit was the stupidest, most self-destructive act a country
>>
>>> could ever undertake.
>>>
>>> USA : Hold my drink
>>>
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