Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba)

2018-05-09 Thread Fernando D. Bozzo
I don't know if you can find something here :

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/bulletins.aspx



El jue., 10 may. 2018 7:22, Mike  escribió:

> Fernando,
>
> Would love to.
>
> Where to start?
>
> Mike
>
>
> Fernando D. Bozzo wrote:
> > Hi Mike:
> >
> > If you suspect that the problem could be because of a new restriction
> > policy, you may try to find the full description of what did include this
> > update.
> >
> >
> > El jue., 10 may. 2018 5:33, Mike  escribió:
> >
> >> Thanks, Gianni. That's a dead-on exact match for what I've run into.
> >>
> >> But, the TechNet article you referenced seems to point the finger at
> >> SMBv1, or higher not being available.
> >>
> >> While this might be the case, it's obvious that Windows 10 1803 is now
> >> applying additional restrictions when the EXE is launched from a shared
> >> drive instead of local. My EXE connects to MariaDB perfectly if the same
> >> EXE connects to the same server, when started from the local drive.
> >>
> >> While this might be something in the network stack, low-level, it makes
> >> more sense (to me) that it would be a difference in the firewall (tried
> >> disabling it) or security policy settings. I've looked through the local
> >> security policy options (I'm NOT on a domain!) and nothing seems to
> apply.
> >>
> >> The 'answer' in the Technet Forum discussion you sent seems to be to
> >> move the EXE file to a different server (Win Serv 2012 instead of 2008)
> >> but I don't have Windows Server anything...I'm 100% Linux (Samba)
> servers.
> >>
> >> Microsoft, love to hate them.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Gianni Turri wrote:
> >>> Someone on the Italian TechNet Forum had a similar problem but with SQL
> >> server.
> >>> May be you can find something useful in the discussion.
> >>>
> >>> Problemi connessione SQL dopo l'aggiornamento di Aprile 2018
> >>>
> >>
> https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/it-IT/38a6727a-7dce-48ef-8c3e-a69e7847c9b8/
> >>> Gianni
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, 9 May 2018 17:35:52 -0500, Mike  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Have already tried that. No change.
> >>>
> >>> To be more precise...it's not that the EXE won't run, it's that the EXE
> >>> can't connect to my Maria DB server.
> >>>
> >>> BUT!
> >>> Since the same application CAN connect to Maria DB if the EXE is run
> >>> locally, this appears to be a security policy issue.
> >>> I am NOT on a Domain!
> >>>
> >>> Still troubleshooting...
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Gianni!
> >>>
> >>> Mike C
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Gianni Turri wrote:
>  Try enabling "SMB 1.0/CIFS File Sharing Support" in "Windows
> features".
> 
>  Gianni
> 
>  On Wed, 9 May 2018 16:23:49 -0500, Mike  wrote:
> 
>  Heads up...
> 
>  After updating to Win 10 Pro 17134 (last night) apps that are stored
> on
> >> a network share (Samba server) will no longer run. Move the EXE file to
> a
> >> local drive and it works fine.
>  Have already disabled firewall, no effect.
>  Have moved all resource (DLL and FLL, OCX, APP) files to a local
> >> folder, no help.
>  Move EXE file to a local folder, runs fine.
> 
>  Same application has run for years as a share, even over a VPN link.
> 
>  Mike Copeland
> 
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Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba)

2018-05-09 Thread Mike

Fernando,

Would love to.

Where to start?

Mike


Fernando D. Bozzo wrote:

Hi Mike:

If you suspect that the problem could be because of a new restriction
policy, you may try to find the full description of what did include this
update.


El jue., 10 may. 2018 5:33, Mike  escribió:


Thanks, Gianni. That's a dead-on exact match for what I've run into.

But, the TechNet article you referenced seems to point the finger at
SMBv1, or higher not being available.

While this might be the case, it's obvious that Windows 10 1803 is now
applying additional restrictions when the EXE is launched from a shared
drive instead of local. My EXE connects to MariaDB perfectly if the same
EXE connects to the same server, when started from the local drive.

While this might be something in the network stack, low-level, it makes
more sense (to me) that it would be a difference in the firewall (tried
disabling it) or security policy settings. I've looked through the local
security policy options (I'm NOT on a domain!) and nothing seems to apply.

The 'answer' in the Technet Forum discussion you sent seems to be to
move the EXE file to a different server (Win Serv 2012 instead of 2008)
but I don't have Windows Server anything...I'm 100% Linux (Samba) servers.

Microsoft, love to hate them.

Mike

Gianni Turri wrote:

Someone on the Italian TechNet Forum had a similar problem but with SQL

server.

May be you can find something useful in the discussion.

Problemi connessione SQL dopo l'aggiornamento di Aprile 2018


https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/it-IT/38a6727a-7dce-48ef-8c3e-a69e7847c9b8/

Gianni

On Wed, 9 May 2018 17:35:52 -0500, Mike  wrote:

Have already tried that. No change.

To be more precise...it's not that the EXE won't run, it's that the EXE
can't connect to my Maria DB server.

BUT!
Since the same application CAN connect to Maria DB if the EXE is run
locally, this appears to be a security policy issue.
I am NOT on a Domain!

Still troubleshooting...

Thanks Gianni!

Mike C


Gianni Turri wrote:

Try enabling "SMB 1.0/CIFS File Sharing Support" in "Windows features".

Gianni

On Wed, 9 May 2018 16:23:49 -0500, Mike  wrote:

Heads up...

After updating to Win 10 Pro 17134 (last night) apps that are stored on

a network share (Samba server) will no longer run. Move the EXE file to a
local drive and it works fine.

Have already disabled firewall, no effect.
Have moved all resource (DLL and FLL, OCX, APP) files to a local

folder, no help.

Move EXE file to a local folder, runs fine.

Same application has run for years as a share, even over a VPN link.

Mike Copeland


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Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba)

2018-05-09 Thread Fernando D. Bozzo
Hi Mike:

If you suspect that the problem could be because of a new restriction
policy, you may try to find the full description of what did include this
update.


El jue., 10 may. 2018 5:33, Mike  escribió:

> Thanks, Gianni. That's a dead-on exact match for what I've run into.
>
> But, the TechNet article you referenced seems to point the finger at
> SMBv1, or higher not being available.
>
> While this might be the case, it's obvious that Windows 10 1803 is now
> applying additional restrictions when the EXE is launched from a shared
> drive instead of local. My EXE connects to MariaDB perfectly if the same
> EXE connects to the same server, when started from the local drive.
>
> While this might be something in the network stack, low-level, it makes
> more sense (to me) that it would be a difference in the firewall (tried
> disabling it) or security policy settings. I've looked through the local
> security policy options (I'm NOT on a domain!) and nothing seems to apply.
>
> The 'answer' in the Technet Forum discussion you sent seems to be to
> move the EXE file to a different server (Win Serv 2012 instead of 2008)
> but I don't have Windows Server anything...I'm 100% Linux (Samba) servers.
>
> Microsoft, love to hate them.
>
> Mike
>
> Gianni Turri wrote:
> > Someone on the Italian TechNet Forum had a similar problem but with SQL
> server.
> >
> > May be you can find something useful in the discussion.
> >
> > Problemi connessione SQL dopo l'aggiornamento di Aprile 2018
> >
> https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/it-IT/38a6727a-7dce-48ef-8c3e-a69e7847c9b8/
> >
> > Gianni
> >
> > On Wed, 9 May 2018 17:35:52 -0500, Mike  wrote:
> >
> > Have already tried that. No change.
> >
> > To be more precise...it's not that the EXE won't run, it's that the EXE
> > can't connect to my Maria DB server.
> >
> > BUT!
> > Since the same application CAN connect to Maria DB if the EXE is run
> > locally, this appears to be a security policy issue.
> > I am NOT on a Domain!
> >
> > Still troubleshooting...
> >
> > Thanks Gianni!
> >
> > Mike C
> >
> >
> > Gianni Turri wrote:
> >> Try enabling "SMB 1.0/CIFS File Sharing Support" in "Windows features".
> >>
> >> Gianni
> >>
> >> On Wed, 9 May 2018 16:23:49 -0500, Mike  wrote:
> >>
> >> Heads up...
> >>
> >> After updating to Win 10 Pro 17134 (last night) apps that are stored on
> a network share (Samba server) will no longer run. Move the EXE file to a
> local drive and it works fine.
> >>
> >> Have already disabled firewall, no effect.
> >> Have moved all resource (DLL and FLL, OCX, APP) files to a local
> folder, no help.
> >> Move EXE file to a local folder, runs fine.
> >>
> >> Same application has run for years as a share, even over a VPN link.
> >>
> >> Mike Copeland
> >>
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Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba)

2018-05-09 Thread Mike

Thanks, Gianni. That's a dead-on exact match for what I've run into.

But, the TechNet article you referenced seems to point the finger at 
SMBv1, or higher not being available.


While this might be the case, it's obvious that Windows 10 1803 is now 
applying additional restrictions when the EXE is launched from a shared 
drive instead of local. My EXE connects to MariaDB perfectly if the same 
EXE connects to the same server, when started from the local drive.


While this might be something in the network stack, low-level, it makes 
more sense (to me) that it would be a difference in the firewall (tried 
disabling it) or security policy settings. I've looked through the local 
security policy options (I'm NOT on a domain!) and nothing seems to apply.


The 'answer' in the Technet Forum discussion you sent seems to be to 
move the EXE file to a different server (Win Serv 2012 instead of 2008) 
but I don't have Windows Server anything...I'm 100% Linux (Samba) servers.


Microsoft, love to hate them.

Mike

Gianni Turri wrote:

Someone on the Italian TechNet Forum had a similar problem but with SQL server.

May be you can find something useful in the discussion.

Problemi connessione SQL dopo l'aggiornamento di Aprile 2018
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/it-IT/38a6727a-7dce-48ef-8c3e-a69e7847c9b8/

Gianni

On Wed, 9 May 2018 17:35:52 -0500, Mike  wrote:

Have already tried that. No change.

To be more precise...it's not that the EXE won't run, it's that the EXE
can't connect to my Maria DB server.

BUT!
Since the same application CAN connect to Maria DB if the EXE is run
locally, this appears to be a security policy issue.
I am NOT on a Domain!

Still troubleshooting...

Thanks Gianni!

Mike C


Gianni Turri wrote:

Try enabling "SMB 1.0/CIFS File Sharing Support" in "Windows features".

Gianni

On Wed, 9 May 2018 16:23:49 -0500, Mike  wrote:

Heads up...

After updating to Win 10 Pro 17134 (last night) apps that are stored on a 
network share (Samba server) will no longer run. Move the EXE file to a local 
drive and it works fine.

Have already disabled firewall, no effect.
Have moved all resource (DLL and FLL, OCX, APP) files to a local folder, no 
help.
Move EXE file to a local folder, runs fine.

Same application has run for years as a share, even over a VPN link.

Mike Copeland


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Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba)

2018-05-09 Thread Gianni Turri
Someone on the Italian TechNet Forum had a similar problem but with SQL server.

May be you can find something useful in the discussion.

Problemi connessione SQL dopo l'aggiornamento di Aprile 2018
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/it-IT/38a6727a-7dce-48ef-8c3e-a69e7847c9b8/

Gianni

On Wed, 9 May 2018 17:35:52 -0500, Mike  wrote:

Have already tried that. No change.

To be more precise...it's not that the EXE won't run, it's that the EXE 
can't connect to my Maria DB server.

BUT!
Since the same application CAN connect to Maria DB if the EXE is run 
locally, this appears to be a security policy issue.
I am NOT on a Domain!

Still troubleshooting...

Thanks Gianni!

Mike C


Gianni Turri wrote:
> Try enabling "SMB 1.0/CIFS File Sharing Support" in "Windows features".
>
> Gianni
>
> On Wed, 9 May 2018 16:23:49 -0500, Mike  wrote:
>
> Heads up...
>
> After updating to Win 10 Pro 17134 (last night) apps that are stored on a 
> network share (Samba server) will no longer run. Move the EXE file to a local 
> drive and it works fine.
>
> Have already disabled firewall, no effect.
> Have moved all resource (DLL and FLL, OCX, APP) files to a local folder, no 
> help.
> Move EXE file to a local folder, runs fine.
>
> Same application has run for years as a share, even over a VPN link.
>
> Mike Copeland
>
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Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba)

2018-05-09 Thread Mike

Have already tried that. No change.

To be more precise...it's not that the EXE won't run, it's that the EXE 
can't connect to my Maria DB server.


BUT!
Since the same application CAN connect to Maria DB if the EXE is run 
locally, this appears to be a security policy issue.

I am NOT on a Domain!

Still troubleshooting...

Thanks Gianni!

Mike C


Gianni Turri wrote:

Try enabling "SMB 1.0/CIFS File Sharing Support" in "Windows features".

Gianni

On Wed, 9 May 2018 16:23:49 -0500, Mike  wrote:

Heads up...

After updating to Win 10 Pro 17134 (last night) apps that are stored on a 
network share (Samba server) will no longer run. Move the EXE file to a local 
drive and it works fine.

Have already disabled firewall, no effect.
Have moved all resource (DLL and FLL, OCX, APP) files to a local folder, no 
help.
Move EXE file to a local folder, runs fine.

Same application has run for years as a share, even over a VPN link.

Mike Copeland


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Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba)

2018-05-09 Thread Gianni Turri
Try enabling "SMB 1.0/CIFS File Sharing Support" in "Windows features".

Gianni

On Wed, 9 May 2018 16:23:49 -0500, Mike  wrote:

Heads up...

After updating to Win 10 Pro 17134 (last night) apps that are stored on a 
network share (Samba server) will no longer run. Move the EXE file to a local 
drive and it works fine.

Have already disabled firewall, no effect.
Have moved all resource (DLL and FLL, OCX, APP) files to a local folder, no 
help.
Move EXE file to a local folder, runs fine.

Same application has run for years as a share, even over a VPN link.

Mike Copeland

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Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & ADS Server

2018-05-09 Thread Ricardo Araoz
"hold off the regular monthly updates for up to 30 days", god! I had 
forgotten what Wd$ was all about. Thanks for the reminder.



On 09/05/18 17:03, Ted Roche wrote:

One of my clients had to recreate all their RDP settings. Whether that
was related to this change, or just because the target machine changed
its DNS name and that didn't show until the monthly reboot, well, we
may never know.

The post I made earlier about blocking the "April Update" also had
some suggestions on settings you could use to hold off the regular
monthly updates for up to 30 days, to let someone else beta-test them
:) I set that up here on the couple of machines running Pro versions
of Windows. Not that I paid for them ;)


On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 3:41 PM, Fred Taylor  wrote:

Thanks Paul.  Now maybe I'll have to talk someone through how to change it,
since it's a remote site.


Fred

On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 12:12 PM, Paul Hill  wrote:


On 9 May 2018 at 20:00, Fred Taylor  wrote:

We don't use Advantage, but we had a problem with a machine trying to use
remote desktop after the latest update for W10.  Had to uninstall it.  It
kept saying something about security corruption.

The old 'Allow remote connections to this computer' is enabled in
system settings and firewall is OK.
There is now a new setting 'Enable Remote Desktop On/Off' in Settings
-> Remote Desktop.

Thanks Microsoft.  I installed this update remotely and now I'm locked out.

--
Paul


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Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba)

2018-05-09 Thread Mike

Heads up...

After updating to Win 10 Pro 17134 (last night) apps that are stored on 
a network share (Samba server) will no longer run. Move the EXE file to 
a local drive and it works fine.


Have already disabled firewall, no effect.
Have moved all resource (DLL and FLL, OCX, APP) files to a local folder, 
no help.

Move EXE file to a local folder, runs fine.

Same application has run for years as a share, even over a VPN link.

Mike Copeland

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Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & ADS Server

2018-05-09 Thread Ted Roche
One of my clients had to recreate all their RDP settings. Whether that
was related to this change, or just because the target machine changed
its DNS name and that didn't show until the monthly reboot, well, we
may never know.

The post I made earlier about blocking the "April Update" also had
some suggestions on settings you could use to hold off the regular
monthly updates for up to 30 days, to let someone else beta-test them
:) I set that up here on the couple of machines running Pro versions
of Windows. Not that I paid for them ;)


On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 3:41 PM, Fred Taylor  wrote:
> Thanks Paul.  Now maybe I'll have to talk someone through how to change it,
> since it's a remote site.
>
>
> Fred
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 12:12 PM, Paul Hill  wrote:
>
>> On 9 May 2018 at 20:00, Fred Taylor  wrote:
>> > We don't use Advantage, but we had a problem with a machine trying to use
>> > remote desktop after the latest update for W10.  Had to uninstall it.  It
>> > kept saying something about security corruption.
>>
>> The old 'Allow remote connections to this computer' is enabled in
>> system settings and firewall is OK.
>> There is now a new setting 'Enable Remote Desktop On/Off' in Settings
>> -> Remote Desktop.
>>
>> Thanks Microsoft.  I installed this update remotely and now I'm locked out.
>>
>> --
>> Paul
>>
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Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & ADS Server

2018-05-09 Thread Fred Taylor
Thanks Paul.  Now maybe I'll have to talk someone through how to change it,
since it's a remote site.


Fred

On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 12:12 PM, Paul Hill  wrote:

> On 9 May 2018 at 20:00, Fred Taylor  wrote:
> > We don't use Advantage, but we had a problem with a machine trying to use
> > remote desktop after the latest update for W10.  Had to uninstall it.  It
> > kept saying something about security corruption.
>
> The old 'Allow remote connections to this computer' is enabled in
> system settings and firewall is OK.
> There is now a new setting 'Enable Remote Desktop On/Off' in Settings
> -> Remote Desktop.
>
> Thanks Microsoft.  I installed this update remotely and now I'm locked out.
>
> --
> Paul
>
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RE: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & ADS Server

2018-05-09 Thread Richard Kaye
We also had some fall-out from the Windows updates just released. This link 
seems to describe the root cause:

https://itluke.online/2018/03/29/solved-authentication-error-function-not-supported/

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rk

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Paul Hill
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2018 3:13 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & ADS Server

On 9 May 2018 at 20:00, Fred Taylor  wrote:
> We don't use Advantage, but we had a problem with a machine trying to use
> remote desktop after the latest update for W10.  Had to uninstall it.  It
> kept saying something about security corruption.

The old 'Allow remote connections to this computer' is enabled in
system settings and firewall is OK.
There is now a new setting 'Enable Remote Desktop On/Off' in Settings
-> Remote Desktop.

Thanks Microsoft.  I installed this update remotely and now I'm locked out.

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Paul


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Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & ADS Server

2018-05-09 Thread Paul Hill
On 9 May 2018 at 20:00, Fred Taylor  wrote:
> We don't use Advantage, but we had a problem with a machine trying to use
> remote desktop after the latest update for W10.  Had to uninstall it.  It
> kept saying something about security corruption.

The old 'Allow remote connections to this computer' is enabled in
system settings and firewall is OK.
There is now a new setting 'Enable Remote Desktop On/Off' in Settings
-> Remote Desktop.

Thanks Microsoft.  I installed this update remotely and now I'm locked out.

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Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & ADS Server

2018-05-09 Thread Fred Taylor
We don't use Advantage, but we had a problem with a machine trying to use
remote desktop after the latest update for W10.  Had to uninstall it.  It
kept saying something about security corruption.
.

Fred

On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 11:26 AM, Paul Hill  wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
> Just a heads up.  I currently have 5 legacy sites running Advantage
> Database Server down after installing the latest Windows 10 update.
>
> Tried the usual tricks (firewall, anti-virus etc) but no joy.
>
> Not sure if there are any Fox folks using this, but it's commonly used
> with xBase++.
>
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>
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Windows 10 April 2018 Update & ADS Server

2018-05-09 Thread Paul Hill
Hi Guys,

Just a heads up.  I currently have 5 legacy sites running Advantage
Database Server down after installing the latest Windows 10 update.

Tried the usual tricks (firewall, anti-virus etc) but no joy.

Not sure if there are any Fox folks using this, but it's commonly used
with xBase++.

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Re: Fun with date calculations in VFP

2018-05-09 Thread Ted Roche
On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 5:39 PM, Richard Kaye  wrote:
> I owe you a Scotch next time you're in the area.
>

Deal!

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