Re: Hacker's Guide, Section 4, now live on github.io!

2019-12-30 Thread Jean Laeremans 
Indeed same here.  Lost appetite   .
Never used the books.  CHM all the Times


Op ma 30 dec. 2019 22:15 schreef MB Software Solutions, LLC <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com>:

> On 12/30/2019 4:01 PM, Ted Roche wrote:
> > Not from me, I'm afraid. While I dabble in Python, making lights blink
> > with one of the Raspberry Pi's, I've never gotten beyond duffer stage.
>
>
> Admittedly, I think one of the negatives of getting older is that my
> attitude towards learning all kinds of new stuff is becoming tired and
> less enthused.  My current Corporate gig is that of a Business Analyst
> and I'm good with that.  Our Java developers here are all younger than
> me.  They're learning Angular now for a new project we're undertaking.
> I just don't seem to have that same energetic "zeal" that I used to have
> years ago for learning new stuff.  I would suspect I'm not the only one
> in this group feeling that way as the years go on.
>
>
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Re: Hacker's Guide, Section 4, now live on github.io!

2019-12-30 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC 

On 12/30/2019 4:01 PM, Ted Roche wrote:
Not from me, I'm afraid. While I dabble in Python, making lights blink 
with one of the Raspberry Pi's, I've never gotten beyond duffer stage. 



Admittedly, I think one of the negatives of getting older is that my 
attitude towards learning all kinds of new stuff is becoming tired and 
less enthused.  My current Corporate gig is that of a Business Analyst 
and I'm good with that.  Our Java developers here are all younger than 
me.  They're learning Angular now for a new project we're undertaking.  
I just don't seem to have that same energetic "zeal" that I used to have 
years ago for learning new stuff.  I would suspect I'm not the only one 
in this group feeling that way as the years go on.



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Re: Hacker's Guide, Section 4, now live on github.io!

2019-12-30 Thread Ted Roche 
On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 2:50 PM Malcolm Greene  wrote:

> My physical copy was so dog-eared, covered with stains, and filled with
> post-it notes and random bookmarks (printouts, pens, pencils, receipts,
> paperclips and god else knows what) that my wife begged me to burn it.
> Given its size (plus all the crap I jammed into it) I could have probably
> heated my house for week if I did.
>

I've used one of the HackFox7 mega-tomes as a monitor stand for years.
> Let's say, we misjudged the size a bit :)
>

I've been told some shops drilled holes and took the binding off with a
bandsaw, converting it into a loose-leaf for easier management :)

For myself, I made a CHM file, as it was a fun learning experience and a
lightweight way to have the book available at client sites, which was my MO
for much of the 90's and 00's. And now, it's making its way to GitHub and
MarkDown, a great place to be shared from.


> ***I'm eagerly waiting the Python edition.***
>

Not from me, I'm afraid. While I dabble in Python, making lights blink with
one of the Raspberry Pi's, I've never gotten beyond duffer stage.

-- 
Ted Roche
Ted Roche & Associates, LLC
http://www.tedroche.com


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Re: Hacker's Guide, Section 4, now live on github.io!

2019-12-30 Thread Ed Leafe 
On Dec 30, 2019, at 13:49, Malcolm Greene  wrote:
> 
> ***I'm eagerly waiting the Python edition.***

He’s not Ted, but this is still a pretty awesome reference book:

https://www.amazon.com/Doug-Hellmann/e/B004GP6IGU%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
 



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Re: Hacker's Guide, Section 4, now live on github.io!

2019-12-30 Thread Malcolm Greene 
Ted,

My physical copy was so dog-eared, covered with stains, and filled with post-it 
notes and random bookmarks (printouts, pens, pencils, receipts, paperclips and 
god else knows what) that my wife begged me to burn it. Given its size (plus 
all the crap I jammed into it) I could have probably heated my house for week 
if I did.

***I'm eagerly waiting the Python edition.***

Malcolm

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Re: Hacker's Guide, Section 4, now live on github.io!

2019-12-30 Thread Ted Roche 
On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 1:12 PM Kurt @ Gmail  wrote:

> Hey Ted - thanks for letting us know about this. Its pretty cool. I
> really like that pic of the fox in a wizard type outfit.


The original book, published by Addison-Wesley, was the second in the
series of "Hacker's Guide" following Hacker's Guide for Word for Windows by
Woody Leonard, which included a wizard on the cover (
https://images.app.goo.gl/HSsTP63kVRmVHZD8A) . Robert Griffith (
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2503903/) did the design for the FoxPro book,
keeping in style with the original, but adding the Fox. It inspired
Halloween costumes (http://www.rickschummer.com/images/glgdw/glgdw2001d.jpg)).
Many wizards were involved, including contributed chapters from Steven
Black and technical editing by the late Drew Speedie.

Am curious to
> know Doug's thought process in regards to posting this specific chapter.
> I mean, yeah, I get it - its listing all the commands and how they work.
>

Doug would have to answer, I suspect. But the reference guide, which is
Section 4, is composed of hundreds of documents, and are the pages I refer
to every time I need to review the order of parameters or the trick to
using a particular function, or some gotcha I vaguely recall. The other
Sections, fore and aft, are longer-form essays explaining why things are
they way they are, or how we viewed FoxPro as a whole, the sum of parts
(LLFFs, DDE, OLE, ODBC, Fox's SQL, the IDE, the Power Tools, the data
engine) and how the whole is greater. So, the other sections are good for
reading once, and reviewing occasionally, but Section 4 is the daily go-to.

I also really like the quote - the 1st 1 from Alice & Wonderland, and,
> then I saw the one from a band, as I was looking at COS(). And, that
> brought back distant memories.
>

Finding quotes to complement the text was a fun exercise.


> Back in the early 80's - if people had an Apple or a PC computer in
> their homes (and it was very few) - I could in about 10 minutes write a
> small program that would spin a line around and essentially draw a
> circle. I used the Cartesian to Polar coord. systems conversion - using
> Sine & Cosine functions - to spin angles & gen X&Y coord's - and, people
> were always blown away when I would do that on there computer. Yeah -
> literally about 10 min. to create the program and have it running. It
> was cool, since it was early CG, and showed not only the power of a
> personal computer - but the power of math and a couple of simple math
> functions!
>

https://www.xkcd.com/435/


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