[NF] Linux Personas

[Ed Leafe]

Here is a "tool" presented by Microsoft to help their partners sell  
to Linux users:

http://www.linuxpersonas.com/

Good for a laugh at the simple-mindedness, if nothing else.

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Re: [NF] Linux Personas

[Kevin Cully]

Wow.  Check out the "Partner revenue potential" under the "Meet the
Personas" section.  $18K-$30K for the "Linux Experimenter"; $25K-$40K
for the "Market Follower"; the others go up from there.  No wonder M$ is
making so much money if they can get this kind of $$$ from each
implementation.


-Kevin
CULLY Technologies, LLC

Sponsor of FoxForward 2007
foxforward.net


Ed Leafe wrote:
>   Here is a "tool" presented by Microsoft to help their partners sell  
> to Linux users:
> 
> http://www.linuxpersonas.com/
> 
>   Good for a laugh at the simple-mindedness, if nothing else.
> 
> -- Ed Leafe
> -- http://leafe.com
> -- http://dabodev.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [NF] Linux Personas

[Ted Roche]

On 3/20/07, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here is a "tool" presented by Microsoft to help their partners sell
> to Linux users:
>
> http://www.linuxpersonas.com/
>
> Good for a laugh at the simple-mindedness, if nothing else.
>

Enjoy it while you can; I'm sure Microsoft already has a takedown
order in progress...

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Re: [NF] Linux Personas

[Ed Leafe]

On Mar 20, 2007, at 9:22 AM, Ted Roche wrote:

> Enjoy it while you can; I'm sure Microsoft already has a takedown
> order in progress...

What makes you think that it's not legit?

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RE: [NF] Linux Personas

[Jeff Fisher]

I don't know, I think they have it pretty much nailed. To me, that would
describe Linux users.

jeff fisher, MCP
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Here is a "tool" presented by Microsoft to help their partners sell

to Linux users:

http://www.linuxpersonas.com/

Good for a laugh at the simple-mindedness, if nothing else.

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Re: [NF] Linux Personas

[Ed Leafe]

On Mar 20, 2007, at 9:46 AM, Jeff Fisher wrote:

> I don't know, I think they have it pretty much nailed. To me, that  
> would
> describe Linux users.

OK, then: which one am I?

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Re: [NF] Linux Personas

[Ted Roche]

On 3/20/07, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What makes you think that it's not legit?

The lack of Microsoft trademarks in the first appearance of their
products; the failure to note that Linux is a registered trademark. MS
is usually pretty thorough about these things. The pricing comments
are lame. The videos are missing. If this is a genuine document; it's
an early draft at best.

Hmm. There seem to be similar "PartnerCasts" here:

http://ts2blogs.com/blogs/partnercasts/archive/category/1143.aspx

If this is legit, their marketing plan is even more lame than I
thought... Well, I guess they can't explain the "Get the Facts"
campaign too explicitly...

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RE: [NF] Linux Personas

[Jeff Fisher]

Anything but Microsoft - along the lines of the Linux Aficionado. Even
though you aren't strictly Linux with your Macs, you would bend towards
anything that didn't have Microsoft stamped on it.

jeff fisher, MCP
www.turbofish.com


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On Mar 20, 2007, at 9:46 AM, Jeff Fisher wrote:

> I don't know, I think they have it pretty much nailed. To me, that  
> would
> describe Linux users.

OK, then: which one am I?

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Re: [NF] Linux Personas

[Andy Davies]

>What makes you think that it's not legit?
>-- Ed Leafe

Ed's right - it's too complicated and too slow not to be legit 

Andrew Davies  MBCS CITP
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Re: [NF] Linux Personas

[Alan Bourke]

Application Driven here.


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Re: [NF] Linux Personas

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

Ed Leafe wrote:
>   Here is a "tool" presented by Microsoft to help their partners sell  
> to Linux users:
> 
> http://www.linuxpersonas.com/
> 
>   Good for a laugh at the simple-mindedness, if nothing else.

Whoa. 40% are babes? Gotta get me some o' dat Linux-stuff, doncha know! 
Woo-hoo!

Whil


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Re: [NF] Linux Personas

[Derek Kalweit]

> > What makes you think that it's not legit?

> The lack of Microsoft trademarks in the first appearance of their
> products; the failure to note that Linux is a registered trademark. MS
> is usually pretty thorough about these things. The pricing comments
> are lame. The videos are missing. If this is a genuine document; it's
> an early draft at best.

Not to mention the whois record lists someone in an apartment complex
in Seattle...


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Re: [NF] Linux Personas

[Ed Leafe]

On Mar 20, 2007, at 9:55 AM, Jeff Fisher wrote:

> Anything but Microsoft - along the lines of the Linux Aficionado. Even
> though you aren't strictly Linux with your Macs, you would bend  
> towards
> anything that didn't have Microsoft stamped on it.

Hmmm... guess I stopped using Fox when Microsoft acquired it.

I use the best tool for the job at hand. I used SourceSafe for years  
until I found CVS. I used MapPoint for years until Google Earth. I  
use Windows, Macs and Linux every day.

But I guess to a fanboy, anyone who doesn't drink the Kool-aid must  
have an agenda.

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RE: [NF] Linux Personas

[Jeff Fisher]

Oh come on Ed, I've been reading the 'Hate everything Microsoft' stuff from
you for years. For you, it's more like open source vs. Microsoft.

One of the biggest reasons you started Dabo is because you wanted to get
away from a Microsoft product and into 'open source'. 

Let's take a look at the rest of your application choices here:
SourceSafe is the industry leader for such a product. CVS doesn't even come
close. It is difficult to work with, the GUI front ends all suffer from a
total lack of advancement when compared to 'paid' products.
MapPoint vs. Google Earth? Google Earth is a great way of getting maps,
viewing different areas and so on but with MapPoint, I can load in my own
data from a wide variety of sources and make maps that are useful for my
needs. Can't do that with Google Earth. In fact, MapPoint is just
Microsoft's old direction software [can't remember the name] but with the
ability of real statistical analysis, census information,...

If there was an open source alternative, you would choose it. Doesn't matter
if the open source alternative lacked the features of what it was attempting
to replace or the stability.

There are actually very few open source products that even come close to
what is out there. For example, over the weekend, I loaded up ubuntu on a
spare PC. I typically use this PC to as a print server, messing around box,
and to play music while I work. On the windows side, I use applications like
MediaMonkey, JetAudio, and Winamp to play music. Anything like that out
there for Linux? Not even close and I have tried quite a few alternatives
now. They won't play my MP3's, did find something to play my WMA's but no
way of creating a playlist. Most of the interfaces look like they were
developed way back in '95 and even then, most won't work at all. Some of
them required that I go back to a command line to install - haven't seen
that in the rest of the world for decades. And to top it off, the damn thing
just locked up on me again - had to reboot. But even with that said, you
would pick it over Microsoft.

Open source is for the most part, so behind the rest of the world. There are
only a few exception to the many failed projects or should be dropped
projects.


jeff fisher, MCP
www.turbofish.com

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On Mar 20, 2007, at 9:55 AM, Jeff Fisher wrote:

> Anything but Microsoft - along the lines of the Linux Aficionado. Even
> though you aren't strictly Linux with your Macs, you would bend  
> towards
> anything that didn't have Microsoft stamped on it.

Hmmm... guess I stopped using Fox when Microsoft acquired it.

I use the best tool for the job at hand. I used SourceSafe for years

until I found CVS. I used MapPoint for years until Google Earth. I  
use Windows, Macs and Linux every day.

But I guess to a fanboy, anyone who doesn't drink the Kool-aid must

have an agenda.

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Re: [NF] Linux Personas

[Ed Leafe]

On Mar 20, 2007, at 12:41 PM, Jeff Fisher wrote:

> Oh come on Ed, I've been reading the 'Hate everything Microsoft'  
> stuff from
> you for years. For you, it's more like open source vs. Microsoft.
>
> One of the biggest reasons you started Dabo is because you wanted  
> to get
> away from a Microsoft product and into 'open source'.

Gee, I really love it when people tell me my own thoughts and  
motivations.

The rest of your rant almost invites one to guess as to your own  
psychological underpinnings.

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RE: [NF] Linux Personas

[Jeff Fisher]

Tell me what I got wrong.
I've been on this list for years although I don't often post. In fact, I
have saved pretty much every post with the exception of NF and OT posts
which I read and then discard.
You aren't exactly a stranger. You post your thoughts, ideas, code, even
religious topics. 

And with that, please note that I'm not trying to attack you. I think you
are a gifted programmer and in general, just a smart person. 

jeff fisher, MCP
www.turbofish.com

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On Mar 20, 2007, at 12:41 PM, Jeff Fisher wrote:

> Oh come on Ed, I've been reading the 'Hate everything Microsoft'  
> stuff from
> you for years. For you, it's more like open source vs. Microsoft.
>
> One of the biggest reasons you started Dabo is because you wanted  
> to get
> away from a Microsoft product and into 'open source'.

Gee, I really love it when people tell me my own thoughts and  
motivations.

The rest of your rant almost invites one to guess as to your own  
psychological underpinnings.

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Re: [NF] Linux Personas

[Pete Theisen]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007 8:07 am, Ed Leafe wrote:
>   Here is a "tool" presented by Microsoft to help their partners sell
> to Linux users:
>
> http://www.linuxpersonas.com/
>
>   Good for a laugh at the simple-mindedness, if nothing else.

Hi Ed!

I'll take your word that it is amusing. It won't run on my Linux box. Maybe 
that would violate M$'s EULA.

-- 
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Re: [NF] Linux Personas

[Paul Hill]

Hi Jeff,

On 3/20/07, Jeff Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Let's take a look at the rest of your application choices here:
> SourceSafe is the industry leader for such a product.

SourceSafe isn't a great example to demonstrate closed-source
superiority.  It's buggy - crashes at least a couple of times a week
and is useless over a slow connection.  Ever worked in a team where
the VSS server was in a different country?  I have and it's painful.

-- 
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Re: [NF] Linux Personas

[Alan Bourke]

Paul Hill wrote:
>  I have and it's painful.
>   

I'll be doing that soon. Can't wait. Can, actually.



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Re: [NF] Linux Personas

[Ed Leafe]

On Mar 20, 2007, at 1:00 PM, Jeff Fisher wrote:

> Tell me what I got wrong.

OK, here goes:

> Oh come on Ed, I've been reading the 'Hate everything Microsoft'  
> stuff from
> you for years. For you, it's more like open source vs. Microsoft.

Gee, I was always accused of being a Mac bigot because I preferred  
them over Windows machines. Now you have concocted some other  
religious cause as my motivation.

I'll say it as clearly as I can: use the best tool for the job at  
hand. If you have the choice between two or more tools that both can  
do the job, it is in your interest to go with the open source tool.

> One of the biggest reasons you started Dabo is because you wanted  
> to get
> away from a Microsoft product and into 'open source'.

No, it was because as a consultant, I saw the number of calls I got  
for Fox work dropping precipitously, and I needed to figure out my  
next move if I wanted to stay busy. I looked at several alternatives,  
including a few Java options, before deciding that I wanted to  
program in Python. That decision was based on two things: Python is  
an absolutely wonderful language to code it, and no company could  
ever buy it out and bury it.

If I was going to invest my time and effort into mastering a new  
tool, I did not want to end up in the same situation I now find  
myself in: being very good at developing with an amazing product,  
only to have some marketing department somewhere decide that they  
could make more money by marginalizing this amazing product and  
moving everyone to a less capable tool that would generate more money  
for the company. I also didn't want to bet my future on the dominance  
of any single platform; being platform-agnostic was a requirement.  
There wasn't any tool out there that even came close to these  
demands, so along with another Fox guy who had come to pretty much  
the same conclusion I set out to create it myself.

If all I had wanted to do was get away from a Microsoft product and  
into open source (why do you quote that term?) there are no shortage  
of products out there. I'm spoiled by my years with FoxPro, though,  
and all of those other alternatives just seemed lame compared with  
the Fox.

> Let's take a look at the rest of your application choices here:

I just gave a few; I didn't plan on spending all day setting you  
straight.

> SourceSafe is the industry leader for such a product.

As long as you narrowly define the industry. Outside of the  
Microsoft sphere, it is not used at all.

> CVS doesn't even come
> close. It is difficult to work with, the GUI front ends all suffer  
> from a
> total lack of advancement when compared to 'paid' products.

You do realize that these are your own self-serving conclusions;  
have you ever used TortoiseCVS? Can't get much simpler and easier  
than that. There are several excellent GUI front ends for CVS,  
although you are correct that they have not gotten the attention they  
need lately, since nearly every CVS user has moved onto Subversion  
and other even better SCC systems.

> MapPoint vs. Google Earth? Google Earth is a great way of getting  
> maps,
> viewing different areas and so on but with MapPoint, I can load in  
> my own
> data from a wide variety of sources and make maps that are useful  
> for my
> needs. Can't do that with Google Earth.

That's great for you; if I had that need I would probably still be  
using MapPoint, too. But I needed it for maps, directions, and the like.

> In fact, MapPoint is just
> Microsoft's old direction software [can't remember the name] but  
> with the
> ability of real statistical analysis, census information,...

Again, if that were my needs... but it isn't.

> If there was an open source alternative, you would choose it.  
> Doesn't matter
> if the open source alternative lacked the features of what it was  
> attempting
> to replace or the stability.

Now that's a total crock. Re-read what you wrote above and tell me  
that it's possible to read that and not conclude that the person you  
wrote it about is an incompetent religious nut.

> There are actually very few open source products that even come  
> close to
> what is out there. For example, over the weekend, I loaded up  
> ubuntu on a
> spare PC. I typically use this PC to as a print server, messing  
> around box,
> and to play music while I work. On the windows side, I use  
> applications like
> MediaMonkey, JetAudio, and Winamp to play music. Anything like that  
> out
> there for Linux? Not even close and I have tried quite a few  
> alternatives
> now. They won't play my MP3's, did find something to play my WMA's  
> but no
> way of creating a playlist.

Can't help you here, since I don't use Linux as my every day  
machine; I just use it as my server and as a development machine. I  
use my Mac for all my multimedia needs.

BTW, MP3s are no 

Re: [NF] Linux Personas

[Vince Teachout]

Jeff Fisher wrote:
> There are actually very few open source products that even come close to
> what is out there. For example, over the weekend, I loaded up ubuntu on a
> spare PC. I typically use this PC to as a print server, messing around box,
> and to play music while I work. On the windows side, I use applications like
> MediaMonkey, JetAudio, and Winamp to play music. Anything like that out
> there for Linux? Not even close and I have tried quite a few alternatives
> now. They won't play my MP3's, did find something to play my WMA's but no
> way of creating a playlist. Most of the interfaces look like they were
> developed way back in '95 and even then, most won't work at all. Some of
> them required that I go back to a command line to install - haven't seen
> that in the rest of the world for decades. And to top it off, the damn thing
> just locked up on me again - had to reboot. But even with that said, you
> would pick it over Microsoft.

Jeff,
I'm *supposed* to be working today, so I'm just going say that I've had 
the opposite experience with Open Source, and comment on the few apps 
that you mentioned above that I do have experience with.

First, I have to agree with you about Ubuntu.  I keep downloading and 
trying the latest versions of Ubuntu, because so many people rave about 
it, I figure I MUST be missing something.  But, and I'm sure this is 
because I'm an idiot, I CAN NOT get the damn thing to see my hard drives 
to save my life, let alone "right out of the box."  But I've had great 
success with Knoppix and Suse - maybe you might want to try them.

Regarding interfaces, I've had just the opposite experience you've had.  
Some of the Linux interfaces have too damn much Eye candy, and I have to 
turn some of it off.  Most of the rest are about the same was Windows, 
and yes, there are a few clunkers (ditto withWindows).

As far asWinamp, I think it's the best Windows media player there is, 
which is why when I'm on the Linux machine, I use XMMS - a Linux Clone 
that's pretty much indistinguishable from Winamp, down to the look and 
feel, controls, and skins.  I don't know why they haven't been sued, yet. 

I don't know what media monkey, etc, are, but if they're Audio Editors, 
I'm very happy with Audacity, which does everything I can think of.  
Ditto for Gimp for graphics.  As far as source code, Tortoise SVN is a 
no-brainer.  If there's an X on the folder, right click and choose 
commit.  Done.  Finally, there is so much cross-platform writing going 
on, that a lot of the tools I use in Linux are the same ones I use in 
Windows: Adobe, Real Player, Open Office, Thunderbird, Fire Fox, Opera, 
Apache, Bitcomet, NX Client, VNC, Python and Skype are just the ones the 
come immediately to mind. 

In short, try something besides Unbuntu.  Or don't.  Stick with what 
you like.  Free will.  Gotta love it.  :-)


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Re: [NF] Linux Personas

[Chet Gardiner]

All I get at this link is:  "This material is being updated and will be 
made available to Microsoft partners shortly."

Ya' snooze, ya' lose, eh?   :-)

Ed Leafe wrote:
>   Here is a "tool" presented by Microsoft to help their partners sell  
> to Linux users:
>
> http://www.linuxpersonas.com/
>
>   Good for a laugh at the simple-mindedness, if nothing else.
>
> -- Ed Leafe
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RE: [NF] Linux Personas

[Jeff Fisher]

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-Original Message-
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Of Ed Leafe
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 12:52 PM
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On Mar 20, 2007, at 1:00 PM, Jeff Fisher wrote:

> Tell me what I got wrong.

OK, here goes:

> Oh come on Ed, I've been reading the 'Hate everything Microsoft'  
> stuff from
> you for years. For you, it's more like open source vs. Microsoft.

Gee, I was always accused of being a Mac bigot because I preferred  
them over Windows machines. Now you have concocted some other  
religious cause as my motivation.

You only got serious with Mac after they built the OS on BDS.

I'll say it as clearly as I can: use the best tool for the job at  
hand. If you have the choice between two or more tools that both can  
do the job, it is in your interest to go with the open source tool.

I haven't seen that yet, nor is it reflected in your last paragraph.

> One of the biggest reasons you started Dabo is because you wanted  
> to get
> away from a Microsoft product and into 'open source'.

No, it was because as a consultant, I saw the number of calls I got

for Fox work dropping precipitously, and I needed to figure out my  
next move if I wanted to stay busy. I looked at several alternatives,  
including a few Java options, before deciding that I wanted to  
program in Python. That decision was based on two things: Python is  
an absolutely wonderful language to code it, and no company could  
ever buy it out and bury it.


The open source argument again. 



> MapPoint vs. Google Earth? Google Earth is a great way of getting  
> maps,
> viewing different areas and so on but with MapPoint, I can load in  
> my own
> data from a wide variety of sources and make maps that are useful  
> for my
> needs. Can't do that with Google Earth.

That's great for you; if I had that need I would probably still be  
using MapPoint, too. But I needed it for maps, directions, and the like.

> In fact, MapPoint is just
> Microsoft's old direction software [can't remember the name] but  
> with the
> ability of real statistical analysis, census information,...

Again, if that were my needs... but it isn't.

Then why even trying to compare the two?

> If there was an open source alternative, you would choose it.  
> Doesn't matter
> if the open source alternative lacked the features of what it was  
> attempting
> to replace or the stability.

Now that's a total crock. Re-read what you wrote above and tell me  
that it's possible to read that and not conclude that the person you  
wrote it about is an incompetent religious nut.


Religious nut?
I believe this is about Linux/Open Source unless you are calling that a
religion.

> There are actually very few open source products that even come  
> close to
> what is out there. For example, over the weekend, I loaded up  
> ubuntu on a
> spare PC. I typically use this PC to as a print server, messing  
> around box,
> and to play music while I work. On the windows side, I use  
> applications like
> MediaMonkey, JetAudio, and Winamp to play music. Anything like that  
> out
> there for Linux? Not even close and I have tried quite a few  
> alternatives
> now. They won't play my MP3's, did find something to play my WMA's  
> but no
> way of creating a playlist.

Can't help you here, since I don't use Linux as my every day  
machine; I just use it as my server and as a development machine. I  
use my Mac for all my multimedia needs.

BTW, MP3s are no problem to play. Most of the Microsoft-developed  
formats, though, are crippled by licensing restrictions. IOW, it  
isn't a matter of technology, but of legal departments, and the  
Microsoft world definitely has the advantage there.

> Most of the interfaces look like they were
> developed way back in '95 and even then, most won't work at all.

I don't know why you continue to rant about media players; I never  
mentioned them. But you seem to continue to imply that I somehow made  
this argument, since you are countering so vehemently.

It is just an example. You can pretty much take your pick from any leading
software that runs on Windows and compare it to an Open source Linux
version.

> Some of
> them required that I go back to a command line to install - haven't  
> seen
> that in the rest of the world for decades.

That's funny - I remember the exact opposite argument being used  
against those toy 'Mac' machines by a bunch of DOS users.

Yep, and that was way back in '92

And if you had to install anything from a command line in Ubuntu -

Re: [NF] Linux Personas

[Ed Leafe]

On Mar 21, 2007, at 6:54 PM, Jeff Fisher wrote:

> You only got serious with Mac after they built the OS on BDS.

You don't learn, do you? You just like to make total bullshit  
statements like this that make anything else you say look equally  
stupid.

I'm not going to explain my Mac history to you. Suffice it to say  
that I've been using them "seriously" since 1984.

I think we're done here.

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RE: [NF] Linux Personas

[Jeff Fisher]

Is that your only point?
Tell me, what non open source software do you work with?

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On Mar 21, 2007, at 6:54 PM, Jeff Fisher wrote:

> You only got serious with Mac after they built the OS on BDS.

You don't learn, do you? You just like to make total bullshit  
statements like this that make anything else you say look equally  
stupid.

I'm not going to explain my Mac history to you. Suffice it to say  
that I've been using them "seriously" since 1984.

I think we're done here.

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Re: [NF] Linux Personas

[Ed Leafe]

On Mar 21, 2007, at 9:04 PM, Jeff Fisher wrote:

> Is that your only point?
> Tell me, what non open source software do you work with?

Visual FoxPro. And lots of others.

Sorry, but I tried to treat you as though you were reasonable. You  
insist on misrepresenting me and and my opinions in order to justify  
your arguments, so I can't be bothered wasting my time with this crap  
any more.

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Re: [NF] Linux Personas

[MB Software Solutions]

Ted Roche wrote:
> On 3/20/07, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Here is a "tool" presented by Microsoft to help their partners sell
>> to Linux users:
>>
>> http://www.linuxpersonas.com/
>>
>> Good for a laugh at the simple-mindedness, if nothing else.
>>
>> 
>
> Enjoy it while you can; I'm sure Microsoft already has a takedown
> order in progress...
>
>   
YepI'm too late.  It just says: "This material is being updated and 
will be made available to Microsoft partners shortly."

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Re: [NF] Linux Personas

[MB Software Solutions]

Ted Roche wrote:
> Hmm. There seem to be similar "PartnerCasts" here:
>
> http://ts2blogs.com/blogs/partnercasts/archive/category/1143.aspx
>   

Only this on that link page for me: 


Windows Server (RSS)



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