Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
Virgil, are you part of the Flat Earth Society? On 1/20/07, Virgil Bierschwale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, you should think on a little bit bigger scale. Suppose for instance that this planet is a test tube for a larger culture, which by the way I'm hoping it isnt grin But what in the hell makes you think that everything revolves around us. Too many times I've seen people take something as gospel because they saw it written somewhere. As baby's we start out asking why until we reach a point where we become embarrassed to ask the simple question Why? when infact we should be askng it more often The universe doesn't revolve around us and our petty squabbles. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helio W. Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 12:29 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics Virgil, try to learn the difference between scientific theory and myth. On 1/19/07, Virgil Bierschwale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, I havent said that gravity exists or doesn't... You said that. All I said is that it is a theory and a theory is only that until it has been proven or disproven by history, not by another theory. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
Never heard of it, but probably not... Virgil Bierschwale http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helio W. Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 2:37 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics Virgil, are you part of the Flat Earth Society? On 1/20/07, Virgil Bierschwale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, you should think on a little bit bigger scale. Suppose for instance that this planet is a test tube for a larger culture, which by the way I'm hoping it isnt grin But what in the hell makes you think that everything revolves around us. Too many times I've seen people take something as gospel because they saw it written somewhere. As baby's we start out asking why until we reach a point where we become embarrassed to ask the simple question Why? when infact we should be askng it more often The universe doesn't revolve around us and our petty squabbles. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helio W. Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 12:29 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics Virgil, try to learn the difference between scientific theory and myth. On 1/19/07, Virgil Bierschwale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, I havent said that gravity exists or doesn't... You said that. All I said is that it is a theory and a theory is only that until it has been proven or disproven by history, not by another theory. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
As I can measure the dog odor emanating from your clothes. --- Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Virgil, Why yes I do, and I also understand that some planets have it and some don't. The theory of gravity is that any body exerts a force on any other body in an amount that is related to the mass of each body and the distance between them. There are no planets without gravity. None. For example, Madigan is exerting a gravitational force on Ed Leafe, but it is such a weak gravitational force due to the distance between their two bodies that Ed is unable to measure it. He can measure the air currents which emanate from Madigan with an anemometer (set to measure high velocity, high temperature winds), however. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.tenajahome.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
that's my point exactly we were told the world was flat it wasn't we have been told that planets have gravity we haven't been to most of them so we do not know for a fact that these planets have gravity in answer to vinces question I don't have a clue which planets do not have gravity but I o know that I don't accept things just because people say so -Original Message- From: john harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics Date: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:28 am Size: 1K To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Can you prove that? Kinda like describing the indescribable isn't it? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Anderson Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 12:04 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics Ed Leafe wrote: On Jan 18, 2007, at 10:26 PM, Vince Teachout wrote: I don't have any interest into getting into this discussion, but which planets don't have gravity? Only the ones on the 'left' side of the universe. Gravity is a liberal plot to keep conservatives down. Well to be fair, any planet with no mass would have no gravity... ;) Bill [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
funny I've been told that ufo s don't exist however I can look at the millions of stars in the sky and common logic tells me that it is impossible that we are the only ones when there are that many possibilities -Original Message- From: Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics Date: Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:16 am Size: 1K To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Virgil, Why yes I do, and I also understand that some planets have it and some don't. The theory of gravity is that any body exerts a force on any other body in an amount that is related to the mass of each body and the distance between them. There are no planets without gravity. None. For example, Madigan is exerting a gravitational force on Ed Leafe, but it is such a weak gravitational force due to the distance between their two bodies that Ed is unable to measure it. He can measure the air currents which emanate from Madigan with an anemometer (set to measure high velocity, high temperature winds), however. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.tenajahome.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: funny I've been told that ufo s don't exist however I can look at the millions of stars in the sky and common logic tells me that it is impossible that we are the only ones when there are that many possibilities Actually, the 2 statements are not incompatible. If by UFO, you mean an extraterrestrial craft that has visited the earth, then, if you accept that fact that nothing travels faster then light, it's very *possible* that a UFO has never visited the earth. The drivers would die of old age before reaching here, if their life spans were anything like ours. But I do agree with you, that if we're the only life in the universe -- what a waste of a universe! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: The theory of gravity is that any body exerts a force on any other body in an amount that is related to the mass of each body and the distance between them. snip For example, Madigan is exerting a gravitational force on Ed Leafe, Kristyne, you tricky vixen, you. I can't believe you managed to totally get away with saying that Mike and Ed are attracted to each other. :) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
Ed Leafe wrote: On Jan 18, 2007, at 10:26 PM, Vince Teachout wrote: I don't have any interest into getting into this discussion, but which planets don't have gravity? Only the ones on the 'left' side of the universe. Gravity is a liberal plot to keep conservatives down. *SNORK! SPLAT!* Dammit Ed, don't do that while I'm drinking coffee in front of the keyboard! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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You certainly are easily amused. --- Vince Teachout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed Leafe wrote: On Jan 18, 2007, at 10:26 PM, Vince Teachout wrote: I don't have any interest into getting into this discussion, but which planets don't have gravity? Only the ones on the 'left' side of the universe. Gravity is a liberal plot to keep conservatives down. *SNORK! SPLAT!* Dammit Ed, don't do that while I'm drinking coffee in front of the keyboard! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
Why thank you... Unfortunately I like to party just as hard as I like to work and so I probably wouldn’t be a good fit grin Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helio W. Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:00 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics You could be a great theologian, Virgil. On 1/18/07, Virgil Bierschwale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I look at it a lot differently then you. We have NOT been to very many planets. Therefore we do NOT know without a doubt that these planets have gravity, do we ? In other words, just because you tell me something is so, doesn't necessarily make it so, does it ? Now you may want to believe that you are always correct, but I know that nobody is always correct. Virgil Bierschwale --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Like I said... Some planets have gravity Some don't.. Which one is correct ? Does gravity pull down, or does it have no pull at all ? Your wonderful way with words and your superior intellect makes me think that perhaps neither is correct and that the theory of gravity, is only a theory. We... there is no 'theory' of gravity. And not only planets, even you 'have gravity'. It has been observed that masses attract each other with a force directed along the line between the line of the centers of mass of the objects which is proportional to the product of the masses and inversely proportional to the distance between them. This is no theory, it is observation. Thus Fg = G m1.m2/d where Fg = force of gravity, G = is the universal gravitational constant, m1 and m2 are both masses, and d = distance between the objects. In the earth at sea level Fg = g.m where g = 9.8m/sec.sq. = G.M/R (M = mass of the earth, R = radius of the earth) , m is your mass and Fg is your weight (the force that pulls you down). Interesting enough you exert the same force on earth, so when you are falling towards earth the earth is falling towards you (you don't notice because earth's mass is a 'little bit' greater than yours). So ALL PLANETS 'HAVE GRAVITY', AND ALL OBJECTS AND PEOPLE 'HAVE GRAVITY'. (of course this can be explained through relativity but Newton's formulas are good enough and simple enough for all practical everyday use). That's it, now you too have a 'superior intellect'. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:11 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:59 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Why yes I do, and I also understand that some planets have it and some don't. LOL!! So which one is correct ? Certainly not the silliness of your first sentence. I thought you were trying to be serious. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Virgil, Why yes I do, and I also understand that some planets have it and some don't. The theory of gravity is that any body exerts a force on any other body in an amount that is related to the mass of each body and the distance between them. There are no planets without gravity. None. For example, Madigan is exerting a gravitational force on Ed Leafe, but it is such a weak gravitational force due to the distance between their two bodies that Ed is unable to measure it. He can measure the air currents which emanate from Madigan with an anemometer (set to measure high velocity, high temperature winds), however. Besides, if you consider the fact that Mike has absolutely no brain mass, the gravitational force exerted by Mike over ANY object no matter how close it is, is almost nil. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.tenajahome.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's my point exactly we were told the world was flat it wasn't we have been told that planets have gravity we haven't been to most of them so we do not know for a fact that these planets have gravity in answer to vinces question I don't have a clue which planets do not have gravity but I o know that I don't accept things just because people say so Yeah! There is no REAL internet, its just a dwarf that's writing this stuff to get you annoyed. There are no other countries, not even other states except the ones you have visited. And by the way, Bush did not really win the election, I mean, did you count the votes? I didn't! -Original Message- From: john harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics Date: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:28 am Size: 1K To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Can you prove that? Kinda like describing the indescribable isn't it? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Anderson Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 12:04 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics Ed Leafe wrote: On Jan 18, 2007, at 10:26 PM, Vince Teachout wrote: I don't have any interest into getting into this discussion, but which planets don't have gravity? Only the ones on the 'left' side of the universe. Gravity is a liberal plot to keep conservatives down. Well to be fair, any planet with no mass would have no gravity... ;) Bill [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: funny I've been told that ufo s don't exist however I can look at the millions of stars in the sky and common logic tells me that it is impossible that we are the only ones when there are that many possibilities Have you been to space? So how do you know stars exist. Maybe they are holes in a black curtain. Watch out! You're getting too credulous! -Original Message- From: Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics Date: Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:16 am Size: 1K To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Virgil, Why yes I do, and I also understand that some planets have it and some don't. The theory of gravity is that any body exerts a force on any other body in an amount that is related to the mass of each body and the distance between them. There are no planets without gravity. None. For example, Madigan is exerting a gravitational force on Ed Leafe, but it is such a weak gravitational force due to the distance between their two bodies that Ed is unable to measure it. He can measure the air currents which emanate from Madigan with an anemometer (set to measure high velocity, high temperature winds), however. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.tenajahome.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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On Jan 19, 2007, at 10:00 AM, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: So ALL PLANETS 'HAVE GRAVITY', AND ALL OBJECTS AND PEOPLE 'HAVE GRAVITY'. (of course this can be explained through relativity but Newton's formulas are good enough and simple enough for all practical everyday use). Well, y'all have your opinion, and I have mine (trying to beat Virgil to the predictable 'aw, shucks' reply). -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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no problem don't have dsl or phone so I don't get on that much by the way you shouldn't knock the aw shucks as there are a lot of people that still believe in mom and apple pie -Original Message- From: Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics Date: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:55 pm Size: 910 bytes To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com On Jan 19, 2007, at 10:00 AM, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: So ALL PLANETS 'HAVE GRAVITY', AND ALL OBJECTS AND PEOPLE 'HAVE GRAVITY'. (of course this can be explained through relativity but Newton's formulas are good enough and simple enough for all practical everyday use). Well, y'all have your opinion, and I have mine (trying to beat Virgil to the predictable 'aw, shucks' reply). -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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On Jan 19, 2007, at 7:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: by the way you shouldn't knock the aw shucks as there are a lot of people that still believe in mom and apple pie I don't cop an 'aw shucks' attitude, so you're claiming that somehow I don't believe in motherhood or apple pie? This is almost as loopy as stating that gravity exists on a planet- by-planet basis! -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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It’s a culture thing ed.. Something you will never understand because I don't understand yours anymore then you understand mine. I do tolerate your's though grin Don't worry though because I still like you and if we ever bump into each other, I'll be more then happy to let you buy the first round (did I mention I like turkey and water or miller lite ?). If by some miracle, I'm gainfully employed again (believe me, I'm trying), then I'll be more then happy to iron out our differences with me buying the many rounds it will take...! By the way, I havent said that gravity exists or doesn’t... You said that. All I said is that it is a theory and a theory is only that until it has been proven or disproven by history, not by another theory. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 6:44 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics On Jan 19, 2007, at 7:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: by the way you shouldn't knock the aw shucks as there are a lot of people that still believe in mom and apple pie I don't cop an 'aw shucks' attitude, so you're claiming that somehow I don't believe in motherhood or apple pie? This is almost as loopy as stating that gravity exists on a planet- by-planet basis! -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Gravity is the glue that holds the universe together. It guides the stars, planets, comets, and all the masses with greater precision than the finest watch ever made. Gravity is one of the basic forces of the universe, and exists in a pure energy state; although, I think it is possible that matter can be created from gravity by the process of transference of energy into mass. Matter, (e.g. bound energy), has mass, but energy has zero mass. I also think it is possible that matter can be converted back into energy through a process of transference, in which case the mass of the object would be reduced equal to the amount transferred into energy. I think to understand the universe, and gravity, requires a greater understanding of the atom, and how gravity interacts with the atoms of the periodic table which join to form molecules of matter. To understand gravity may even require a better understanding of the sub-atomic world. I think gravity is an attractive force, and much like the atoms which holds together even when electrons and protons are orbiting around the nucleus at the speed of light; so the universe holds together. I think the universe could be though of as a kind of large scale version of the atomic and molecular worlds, where atoms in the periodic table join together to form molecules like hydrogen, oxygen silver, gold, uranium, etc. Many molecules will join together without any help from mankind, and the structure of the bound molecules hold a horrifyingly amount of energy. It is almost impossible to destroy an atom, (eg Collapse an atom, but it can be done using cold temperature physics), and we all know what happens when the delicate balance of the uranium molecule is disturbed by splitting one of its atoms. The whole mass instantaneous fly apart with a terrible explosion. Gravity has a constant force which can be used in any equation. The gravitational force can be computed by applying the constant to the relation of the distance between the two bodies and the mass of the two bodies to solve the equation. Newton found the constant G force, but he though that the effect of gravity was instantaneous. Later scientist discovered that gravity, as a force of energy, was limited to the speed of light. Therefore, the effect of gravity is not instantaneous. For example, the gravitation relationship between the Sun and earth are delayed by eight second due to the distance between the two bodies and the speed limits of energy (eq constant speed of light). The G force diminishes greatly (eg exponentially) as the distance between two bodies increases. Therefore, bodies that are far apart have little gravitational effect on each other. The universe, like the atom and molecules, may be balanced, so that if something on one side of the universe flips one way, there would be a corresponding opposite flip in the other side of the universe, which would happen instantaneously, regardless of distance and the speed limit of energy. Regards, LelandJ Ricardo Aráoz wrote: Hal Kaplan wrote: Global warming has ceased in the metro NYC area. We finally got some measurable snow. If you are truly all alone in the universe then there is no gravity. All theories exist at the pleasure of a lack of superior knowledge. Virgil is right although the theory of gravity suggests that all objects exert a force on all other objects. The theory also suggests that the magnitude of the force is related to the mass of a particular object. Mass is an artifice invented by humans. It is a magnitude you can assign to bodies, with a lot of useful properties. Quantum physics is an artifice invented by humans. String theory is an artifice invented by humans. These systems all work well because nothing has completely disproved them ... yet. Physics does NOT explain the world. It just tries to predict what's going to happen. A theory is good as long as it predicts with acceptable precision what's going to happen. Feti are not human beings ... they are not deductible as dependents under the United States Internal Revenue Code. B+ HALinNY [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Below is a link with better explanation of the current understanding of gravity: http://www.astronomycafe.net/gravity/gravity.html Regards, LelandJ Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Gravity is the glue that holds the universe together. It guides the stars, planets, comets, and all the masses with greater precision than the finest watch ever made. Gravity is one of the basic forces of the universe, and exists in a pure energy state; although, I think it is possible that matter can be created from gravity by the process of transference of energy into mass. Matter, (e.g. bound energy), has mass, but energy has zero mass. I also think it is possible that matter can be converted back into energy through a process of transference, in which case the mass of the object would be reduced equal to the amount transferred into energy. I think to understand the universe, and gravity, requires a greater understanding of the atom, and how gravity interacts with the atoms of the periodic table which join to form molecules of matter. To understand gravity may even require a better understanding of the sub-atomic world. I think gravity is an attractive force, and much like the atoms which holds together even when electrons and protons are orbiting around the nucleus at the speed of light; so the universe holds together. I think the universe could be though of as a kind of large scale version of the atomic and molecular worlds, where atoms in the periodic table join together to form molecules like hydrogen, oxygen silver, gold, uranium, etc. Many molecules will join together without any help from mankind, and the structure of the bound molecules hold a horrifyingly amount of energy. It is almost impossible to destroy an atom, (eg Collapse an atom, but it can be done using cold temperature physics), and we all know what happens when the delicate balance of the uranium molecule is disturbed by splitting one of its atoms. The whole mass instantaneous fly apart with a terrible explosion. Gravity has a constant force which can be used in any equation. The gravitational force can be computed by applying the constant to the relation of the distance between the two bodies and the mass of the two bodies to solve the equation. Newton found the constant G force, but he though that the effect of gravity was instantaneous. Later scientist discovered that gravity, as a force of energy, was limited to the speed of light. Therefore, the effect of gravity is not instantaneous. For example, the gravitation relationship between the Sun and earth are delayed by eight second due to the distance between the two bodies and the speed limits of energy (eq constant speed of light). The G force diminishes greatly (eg exponentially) as the distance between two bodies increases. Therefore, bodies that are far apart have little gravitational effect on each other. The universe, like the atom and molecules, may be balanced, so that if something on one side of the universe flips one way, there would be a corresponding opposite flip in the other side of the universe, which would happen instantaneously, regardless of distance and the speed limit of energy. Regards, LelandJ Ricardo Aráoz wrote: Hal Kaplan wrote: Global warming has ceased in the metro NYC area. We finally got some measurable snow. If you are truly all alone in the universe then there is no gravity. All theories exist at the pleasure of a lack of superior knowledge. Virgil is right although the theory of gravity suggests that all objects exert a force on all other objects. The theory also suggests that the magnitude of the force is related to the mass of a particular object. Mass is an artifice invented by humans. It is a magnitude you can assign to bodies, with a lot of useful properties. Quantum physics is an artifice invented by humans. String theory is an artifice invented by humans. These systems all work well because nothing has completely disproved them ... yet. Physics does NOT explain the world. It just tries to predict what's going to happen. A theory is good as long as it predicts with acceptable precision what's going to happen. Feti are not human beings ... they are not deductible as dependents under the United States Internal Revenue Code. B+ HALinNY [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:41 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: None of us know, and so it should only be labeled a theory by both sides.. The word 'theory' doesn't mean a guess. It means an explanation that has withstood extensive testing and verification. You do realize that gravity is a theory, right? -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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I believe it was the automobile that ended the great ice age. Blame the automobile for killing off the wooly mamouths. --- Virgil Bierschwale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And how in the hell can you know which side of the theory is right until history proves it. No doubt in my mind that the temperature is changing, but is it a cycle that happens every once in awhile or a permanent thing. None of us know, and so it should only be labeled a theory by both sides.. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john harvey Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:38 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics Or put another way, if they don't toe the mark, they will be ousted! Didn't Galileo have a small problem like that? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristyne McDaniel Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:26 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global WarmingSkeptics Madigan, The liberals just love freedom of speech Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. They are not entitled to keeping their certifications even if they manufacture their own 'facts', however. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.tenajahome.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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But, it's exactly the same as Galileo, because he went against group think which is what you have here, and not even ALL scientists agree. It's just those on the left side of center. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:45 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:38 PM, john harvey wrote: Or put another way, if they don't toe the mark, they will be ousted! Didn't Galileo have a small problem like that? Except that the mark in this case is the standard scientific peer review process. In Galileo's case, and in what you're trying to imply, it was because he reached a conclusion that differed from the non-scientific, religious-based world view. This is exactly the opposite of that: people who want to call themselves 'scientists', but who subjugate the scientific method to their belief system. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Why yes I do, and I also understand that some planets have it and some don't. So which one is correct ? The problem with extensive testing and verification, at least in my opinion is that most people when testing, already have the outcome in their mind, which makes them arrive at the conclusion they wanted in the first place.. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:51 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:41 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: None of us know, and so it should only be labeled a theory by both sides.. The word 'theory' doesn't mean a guess. It means an explanation that has withstood extensive testing and verification. You do realize that gravity is a theory, right? -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Virgil Bierschwale wrote: And how in the hell can you know which side of the theory is right until history proves it. No doubt in my mind that the temperature is changing, but is it a cycle that happens every once in awhile or a permanent thing. None of us know, and so it should only be labeled a theory by both sides.. We have been on a warming cycle for thousands of years. Just ask the glaicers that use to cover 1/3 of the USA. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.14/636 - Release Date: 1/18/2007 4:00 AM ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Yep, but is it a cycle, or are we headed in one direction only ? Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen the Cook Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:06 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics Virgil Bierschwale wrote: And how in the hell can you know which side of the theory is right until history proves it. No doubt in my mind that the temperature is changing, but is it a cycle that happens every once in awhile or a permanent thing. None of us know, and so it should only be labeled a theory by both sides.. We have been on a warming cycle for thousands of years. Just ask the glaicers that use to cover 1/3 of the USA. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.14/636 - Release Date: 1/18/2007 4:00 AM [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:55 PM, john harvey wrote: But, it's exactly the same as Galileo, because he went against group think which is what you have here, and not even ALL scientists agree. It's just those on the left side of center. Wrong. Galileo didn't start with his conclusion and discard everything that didn't fit it; instead he tested things and arrived at a better explanation of the phenomena he was observing. Group think is a derogatory term that implies that the only reason for anyone holding that position is because nearly everyone else does, too. It disparages the work that has gone into the analysis of the data that has been collected. And your lame attempt at attacking the data by inventing some stupid label just goes to show how unthinking your objections are. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:59 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Why yes I do, and I also understand that some planets have it and some don't. LOL!! So which one is correct ? Certainly not the silliness of your first sentence. I thought you were trying to be serious. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Like I said... Some planets have gravity Some don't.. Which one is correct ? Does gravity pull down, or does it have no pull at all ? Your wonderful way with words and your superior intellect makes me think that perhaps neither is correct and that the theory of gravity, is only a theory. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:11 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:59 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Why yes I do, and I also understand that some planets have it and some don't. LOL!! So which one is correct ? Certainly not the silliness of your first sentence. I thought you were trying to be serious. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Everything has gravity, it's a matter of degree. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Virgil Bierschwale Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:14 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics Like I said... Some planets have gravity Some don't.. Which one is correct ? Does gravity pull down, or does it have no pull at all ? Your wonderful way with words and your superior intellect makes me think that perhaps neither is correct and that the theory of gravity, is only a theory. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:11 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:59 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Why yes I do, and I also understand that some planets have it and some don't. LOL!! So which one is correct ? Certainly not the silliness of your first sentence. I thought you were trying to be serious. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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On Jan 18, 2007, at 8:14 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Like I said... Some planets have gravity Some don't.. Which one is correct ? Neither. All planets have gravity. In fact, every bit of mass involves a gravitational force. You pull the Earth towards you just as the Earth pulls you toward it; the difference in magnitude varies with your respective masses. Sorry, but I can't continue a serious discussion with someone who thinks that there are planets without gravity. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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On Jan 18, 2007, at 10:26 PM, Vince Teachout wrote: I don't have any interest into getting into this discussion, but which planets don't have gravity? Only the ones on the 'left' side of the universe. Gravity is a liberal plot to keep conservatives down. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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No, the fairness doctrine is working on that. Bwahahahahahahaah, fairness doctrine. . . . John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:30 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics On Jan 18, 2007, at 10:26 PM, Vince Teachout wrote: I don't have any interest into getting into this discussion, but which planets don't have gravity? Only the ones on the 'left' side of the universe. Gravity is a liberal plot to keep conservatives down. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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What hogwash. No one will be talking about global warming in 5 years. There's snow in Malibu. --- Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:55 PM, john harvey wrote: But, it's exactly the same as Galileo, because he went against group think which is what you have here, and not even ALL scientists agree. It's just those on the left side of center. Wrong. Galileo didn't start with his conclusion and discard everything that didn't fit it; instead he tested things and arrived at a better explanation of the phenomena he was observing. Group think is a derogatory term that implies that the only reason for anyone holding that position is because nearly everyone else does, too. It disparages the work that has gone into the analysis of the data that has been collected. And your lame attempt at attacking the data by inventing some stupid label just goes to show how unthinking your objections are. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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That's almost as silly as fetuses aren't babies. --- Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 18, 2007, at 8:14 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Like I said... Some planets have gravity Some don't.. Which one is correct ? Neither. All planets have gravity. In fact, every bit of mass involves a gravitational force. You pull the Earth towards you just as the Earth pulls you toward it; the difference in magnitude varies with your respective masses. Sorry, but I can't continue a serious discussion with someone who thinks that there are planets without gravity. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
No, no, the snow was caused by Global Warming, or didn't you know that? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 11:25 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics What hogwash. No one will be talking about global warming in 5 years. There's snow in Malibu. --- Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:55 PM, john harvey wrote: But, it's exactly the same as Galileo, because he went against group think which is what you have here, and not even ALL scientists agree. It's just those on the left side of center. Wrong. Galileo didn't start with his conclusion and discard everything that didn't fit it; instead he tested things and arrived at a better explanation of the phenomena he was observing. Group think is a derogatory term that implies that the only reason for anyone holding that position is because nearly everyone else does, too. It disparages the work that has gone into the analysis of the data that has been collected. And your lame attempt at attacking the data by inventing some stupid label just goes to show how unthinking your objections are. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
I wonder if the fairness doctrine is going to apply to the CBS Evening News or The New York Times. --- john harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, the fairness doctrine is working on that. Bwahahahahahahaah, fairness doctrine. . . . John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:30 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics On Jan 18, 2007, at 10:26 PM, Vince Teachout wrote: I don't have any interest into getting into this discussion, but which planets don't have gravity? Only the ones on the 'left' side of the universe. Gravity is a liberal plot to keep conservatives down. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
I think the added snow in Antarctica is also related to global warming. --- john harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, no, the snow was caused by Global Warming, or didn't you know that? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 11:25 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics What hogwash. No one will be talking about global warming in 5 years. There's snow in Malibu. --- Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:55 PM, john harvey wrote: But, it's exactly the same as Galileo, because he went against group think which is what you have here, and not even ALL scientists agree. It's just those on the left side of center. Wrong. Galileo didn't start with his conclusion and discard everything that didn't fit it; instead he tested things and arrived at a better explanation of the phenomena he was observing. Group think is a derogatory term that implies that the only reason for anyone holding that position is because nearly everyone else does, too. It disparages the work that has gone into the analysis of the data that has been collected. And your lame attempt at attacking the data by inventing some stupid label just goes to show how unthinking your objections are. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
No, that wouldn't be fair! Think Dan Rather John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 11:32 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics I wonder if the fairness doctrine is going to apply to the CBS Evening News or The New York Times. --- john harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, the fairness doctrine is working on that. Bwahahahahahahaah, fairness doctrine. . . . John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:30 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics On Jan 18, 2007, at 10:26 PM, Vince Teachout wrote: I don't have any interest into getting into this discussion, but which planets don't have gravity? Only the ones on the 'left' side of the universe. Gravity is a liberal plot to keep conservatives down. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
Stalinist Russia comes to the United States and the Democrats applaud. They want to have restrictions on conservative radio hosts but not on Al Qaeda terrorists. --- john harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, that wouldn't be fair! Think Dan Rather John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 11:32 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics I wonder if the fairness doctrine is going to apply to the CBS Evening News or The New York Times. --- john harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, the fairness doctrine is working on that. Bwahahahahahahaah, fairness doctrine. . . . John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:30 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics On Jan 18, 2007, at 10:26 PM, Vince Teachout wrote: I don't have any interest into getting into this discussion, but which planets don't have gravity? Only the ones on the 'left' side of the universe. Gravity is a liberal plot to keep conservatives down. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
Ed Leafe wrote: On Jan 18, 2007, at 10:26 PM, Vince Teachout wrote: I don't have any interest into getting into this discussion, but which planets don't have gravity? Only the ones on the 'left' side of the universe. Gravity is a liberal plot to keep conservatives down. Well to be fair, any planet with no mass would have no gravity... ;) Bill ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
Can you prove that? Kinda like describing the indescribable isn't it? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Anderson Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 12:04 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics Ed Leafe wrote: On Jan 18, 2007, at 10:26 PM, Vince Teachout wrote: I don't have any interest into getting into this discussion, but which planets don't have gravity? Only the ones on the 'left' side of the universe. Gravity is a liberal plot to keep conservatives down. Well to be fair, any planet with no mass would have no gravity... ;) Bill [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
Virgil, Why yes I do, and I also understand that some planets have it and some don't. The theory of gravity is that any body exerts a force on any other body in an amount that is related to the mass of each body and the distance between them. There are no planets without gravity. None. For example, Madigan is exerting a gravitational force on Ed Leafe, but it is such a weak gravitational force due to the distance between their two bodies that Ed is unable to measure it. He can measure the air currents which emanate from Madigan with an anemometer (set to measure high velocity, high temperature winds), however. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.tenajahome.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
