RE: [OT] Liberals are Very Afraid of FRED
No, someone is TRYING to make something of the name Fred. Someone named Monica! JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristyne McDaniel Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 12:59 AM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Liberals are Very Afraid of FRED JH, > No fear? Then why slam a guy just because of his name? What > happened to the > touchy feely liberalism? She wouldn't dare say something bad > about a black, > a homosexual, etc, but I guess Fred is fair game. There is nothing as > intolerant as a liberal. I must be missing something here. Is somebody making something out of Fred Dalton Thompson as a name? I just thought he was an empty suit as a politician. Nothing for any liberal to fear. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Liberals are Very Afraid of FRED
On Tuesday 14 August 2007 00:59, Kristyne McDaniel wrote: > > No fear? Then why slam a guy just because of his name? What > > happened to the touchy feely liberalism? She wouldn't dare say something >>bad about a black, a homosexual, etc, but I guess Fred is fair game. There >>is nothing as intolerant as a liberal. > > I must be missing something here. Is somebody making something out of Fred > Dalton Thompson as a name? > > I just thought he was an empty suit as a politician. Nothing for any > liberal to fear. Hi Kristyne! It seemed to me that she was making fun of the name itself, like his name was funny or something. I remember all my left-leaning friends making similar such appraisals of Ronald Reagan. They used to call him "Bonzo", like somehow he was playing the chimp in his film "Bedtime for Bonzo". -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Liberals are Very Afraid of FRED
JH, > No fear? Then why slam a guy just because of his name? What > happened to the > touchy feely liberalism? She wouldn't dare say something bad > about a black, > a homosexual, etc, but I guess Fred is fair game. There is nothing as > intolerant as a liberal. I must be missing something here. Is somebody making something out of Fred Dalton Thompson as a name? I just thought he was an empty suit as a politician. Nothing for any liberal to fear. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Liberals are Very Afraid of FRED
His was a member of the enemy, of course that's valid. --- Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Aug 13, 2007, at 12:21 AM, John Harvey wrote: > > > No fear? Then why slam a guy just because of his > name? > > Wow, you must have been asleep when Fox News was > having a field day > with Barrack Hussein Obama. They have spent hours on > his name without > even discussing an actual political position. > > -- Ed Leafe > -- http://leafe.com > -- http://dabodev.com > > > > > ___ > Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com > Subscription Maintenance: > http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox > OT-free version of this list: > http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech > Searchable Archive: > http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox > This message: > http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, > are the opinions of the author, and do not > constitute legal or medical advice. This statement > is added to the messages for those lawyers who are > too stupid to see the obvious. > ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Liberals are Very Afraid of FRED
Well, I thought you were up on that kind of stuff? v/r //SIGNED// Stephen S. Wolfe, YA2, DAF 6th MDG Data Services Manager 6th MDG Information System Security Officer Comm (813) 827-9994 DSN 651-9994 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 11:00 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Liberals are Very Afraid of FRED On Aug 13, 2007, at 10:48 AM, Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote: > Point well taken, but is it true that Obama is losing traction within > the Party/Liberal circles? How would I know? -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Liberals are Very Afraid of FRED
On Aug 13, 2007, at 10:48 AM, Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote: > Point well taken, but is it true that Obama is losing traction within > the Party/Liberal circles? How would I know? -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Liberals are Very Afraid of FRED
Point well taken, but is it true that Obama is losing traction within the Party/Liberal circles? v/r //SIGNED// Stephen S. Wolfe, YA2, DAF 6th MDG Data Services Manager 6th MDG Information System Security Officer Comm (813) 827-9994 DSN 651-9994 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 6:37 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Liberals are Very Afraid of FRED On Aug 13, 2007, at 12:21 AM, John Harvey wrote: > No fear? Then why slam a guy just because of his name? Wow, you must have been asleep when Fox News was having a field day with Barrack Hussein Obama. They have spent hours on his name without even discussing an actual political position. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Liberals are Very Afraid of FRED
On Aug 13, 2007, at 12:21 AM, John Harvey wrote: > No fear? Then why slam a guy just because of his name? Wow, you must have been asleep when Fox News was having a field day with Barrack Hussein Obama. They have spent hours on his name without even discussing an actual political position. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Liberals are Very Afraid of FRED
No fear? Then why slam a guy just because of his name? What happened to the touchy feely liberalism? She wouldn't dare say something bad about a black, a homosexual, etc, but I guess Fred is fair game. There is nothing as intolerant as a liberal. JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chet Gardiner Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 6:15 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [OT] Liberals are Very Afraid of FRED I think it's you right-wing nut jobs who are afraid...There's no evidence of fear in this article by Monica Hesse... You guys are faced with such incredible losers this time you're native paranoia is ratcheted up to a high gear... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Liberals are Very Afraid of FRED
Nominate your Lesbian or your Muslim and see how bad you lose! LMAO --- Chet Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think it's you right-wing nut jobs who are > afraid...There's no > evidence of fear in this article by Monica Hesse... > > You guys are faced with such incredible losers this > time you're native > paranoia is ratcheted up to a high gear... > > Not to mention the fact that the majority of U.S. > citizens who are > paying attention have had it with the mean-spirited, > Bill of Rights > trashing, greedy, uncaring, WRONG-headed, war > mongering, right-wing > fascist fucks who've taken over the repuke party. > > You're on your way down, spiraling down the toilet > into the slimy sewers > from which you crawled. > > And it's a JOY to watch > > I only hope that this round of totally discrediting > your useless, > worthless excuses for "ideas" lasts a lot longer > than the period from > hoover to nixon...the last time this right-wing > stupidity was tried, > failed and rightfully ignored. > > > > John Harvey wrote: > > The Washington Post has an article today which > attempts to say the Fred > > Thompson is stupid because of his name, and after > all, he IS from THE SOUTH. > > > > Liberals- go figure. And this article is from a > woman named Monica. Here's > > an excerpt and a comment I posted on their > website: > > > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/11/AR2007081101 > > 204.html > > > > Fred, Fred, Fred: Thompson's Challenge Has a Name > > > > By Monica Hesse > > Washington Post Staff Writer > > Sunday, August 12, 2007; Page D01 > > > > In the swampy soup of hopefuls for the 2008 > presidential election, there is > > a man with a funny name. (No, not that one.) > > > > We're thinking of the one named Fred (Thompson). > > > > > > Fred Thompson is weighing a run for president -- > with a name that doesn't > > get much respect. (By Rick Gershon -- Getty > Images) > > > > Say it out loud. Do it. Fred. Fred. In the South, > Fray-ud. > > > > Fur-red-duh. > > > > It has the tonal quality of something being > dropped on the floor, something > > heavy and damp-ish. > > > > Waterlogged paper towel. > > > > Fred. > > > > The phonetics of the name seem integral to its > image problem: On > > Urbandictionary.com, a "Fred" is defined as "a > person who does stupid, > > annoying, or idiotic things" (Fred Flintstone, > Fred Mertz). The best-case > > descriptors a Fred can hope for are terms like > well-intentioned, > > predictable, benign (Fred Rogers). > > > > There has never before been a major presidential > candidate named Fred. There > > were two Alfreds, in 1928 and 1936. But Alfred, > being all British and > > Batman-y, is not the same. > > > > Then, out of almost nowhere, came Thompson, who is > transcending the notion > > of Fred. > > > > Recent media accounts of the guy (who has not yet > officially announced his > > candidacy) would have us believe that being a Fred > means Law & Orderly > > sex-in-a-suit, a name exuding such flypaper > pheromones that people find > > themselves helplessly drawn in. Chris Matthews > dedicated three minutes of a > > recent "Hardball" to exploring Thompson's sex > appeal. London's Sunday Times > > last month interviewed a bevy of his > ex-girlfriends, all of whom have drunk > > the Fred-Aid: "He's majestic," said country > singer/Fredophile Lorrie Morgan. > > "Women love a soft place to lay and a strong pair > of hands to hold us." > > > > > > My comment: > > > > Yeah, we've got another dummy named Fred living > here in Memphis. Fred Smith, > > founder and CAO of a little company known as > FedEx > > > > You liberals are skeered to death of Fred "The > Great", cause he's agonna be > > our next komannder n chef, er sumpin lak dat. > > > > > > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Liberals are Very Afraid of FRED
I think it's you right-wing nut jobs who are afraid...There's no evidence of fear in this article by Monica Hesse... You guys are faced with such incredible losers this time you're native paranoia is ratcheted up to a high gear... Not to mention the fact that the majority of U.S. citizens who are paying attention have had it with the mean-spirited, Bill of Rights trashing, greedy, uncaring, WRONG-headed, war mongering, right-wing fascist fucks who've taken over the repuke party. You're on your way down, spiraling down the toilet into the slimy sewers from which you crawled. And it's a JOY to watch I only hope that this round of totally discrediting your useless, worthless excuses for "ideas" lasts a lot longer than the period from hoover to nixon...the last time this right-wing stupidity was tried, failed and rightfully ignored. John Harvey wrote: > The Washington Post has an article today which attempts to say the Fred > Thompson is stupid because of his name, and after all, he IS from THE SOUTH. > > Liberals- go figure. And this article is from a woman named Monica. Here's > an excerpt and a comment I posted on their website: > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/11/AR2007081101 > 204.html > > Fred, Fred, Fred: Thompson's Challenge Has a Name > > By Monica Hesse > Washington Post Staff Writer > Sunday, August 12, 2007; Page D01 > > In the swampy soup of hopefuls for the 2008 presidential election, there is > a man with a funny name. (No, not that one.) > > We're thinking of the one named Fred (Thompson). > > > Fred Thompson is weighing a run for president -- with a name that doesn't > get much respect. (By Rick Gershon -- Getty Images) > > Say it out loud. Do it. Fred. Fred. In the South, Fray-ud. > > Fur-red-duh. > > It has the tonal quality of something being dropped on the floor, something > heavy and damp-ish. > > Waterlogged paper towel. > > Fred. > > The phonetics of the name seem integral to its image problem: On > Urbandictionary.com, a "Fred" is defined as "a person who does stupid, > annoying, or idiotic things" (Fred Flintstone, Fred Mertz). The best-case > descriptors a Fred can hope for are terms like well-intentioned, > predictable, benign (Fred Rogers). > > There has never before been a major presidential candidate named Fred. There > were two Alfreds, in 1928 and 1936. But Alfred, being all British and > Batman-y, is not the same. > > Then, out of almost nowhere, came Thompson, who is transcending the notion > of Fred. > > Recent media accounts of the guy (who has not yet officially announced his > candidacy) would have us believe that being a Fred means Law & Orderly > sex-in-a-suit, a name exuding such flypaper pheromones that people find > themselves helplessly drawn in. Chris Matthews dedicated three minutes of a > recent "Hardball" to exploring Thompson's sex appeal. London's Sunday Times > last month interviewed a bevy of his ex-girlfriends, all of whom have drunk > the Fred-Aid: "He's majestic," said country singer/Fredophile Lorrie Morgan. > "Women love a soft place to lay and a strong pair of hands to hold us." > > > My comment: > > Yeah, we've got another dummy named Fred living here in Memphis. Fred Smith, > founder and CAO of a little company known as FedEx > > You liberals are skeered to death of Fred "The Great", cause he's agonna be > our next komannder n chef, er sumpin lak dat. > > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Liberals are Very Afraid of FRED
Not really. He's a Gucci wearing lobbyist/wooden actor... Easy pickins'... John Harvey wrote: > The Washington Post has an article today which attempts to say the Fred > Thompson is stupid because of his name, and after all, he IS from THE SOUTH. > > Liberals- go figure. And this article is from a woman named Monica. Here's > an excerpt and a comment I posted on their website: > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/11/AR2007081101 > 204.html > > Fred, Fred, Fred: Thompson's Challenge Has a Name > > By Monica Hesse > Washington Post Staff Writer > Sunday, August 12, 2007; Page D01 > > In the swampy soup of hopefuls for the 2008 presidential election, there is > a man with a funny name. (No, not that one.) > > We're thinking of the one named Fred (Thompson). > > > Fred Thompson is weighing a run for president -- with a name that doesn't > get much respect. (By Rick Gershon -- Getty Images) > > Say it out loud. Do it. Fred. Fred. In the South, Fray-ud. > > Fur-red-duh. > > It has the tonal quality of something being dropped on the floor, something > heavy and damp-ish. > > Waterlogged paper towel. > > Fred. > > The phonetics of the name seem integral to its image problem: On > Urbandictionary.com, a "Fred" is defined as "a person who does stupid, > annoying, or idiotic things" (Fred Flintstone, Fred Mertz). The best-case > descriptors a Fred can hope for are terms like well-intentioned, > predictable, benign (Fred Rogers). > > There has never before been a major presidential candidate named Fred. There > were two Alfreds, in 1928 and 1936. But Alfred, being all British and > Batman-y, is not the same. > > Then, out of almost nowhere, came Thompson, who is transcending the notion > of Fred. > > Recent media accounts of the guy (who has not yet officially announced his > candidacy) would have us believe that being a Fred means Law & Orderly > sex-in-a-suit, a name exuding such flypaper pheromones that people find > themselves helplessly drawn in. Chris Matthews dedicated three minutes of a > recent "Hardball" to exploring Thompson's sex appeal. London's Sunday Times > last month interviewed a bevy of his ex-girlfriends, all of whom have drunk > the Fred-Aid: "He's majestic," said country singer/Fredophile Lorrie Morgan. > "Women love a soft place to lay and a strong pair of hands to hold us." > > > My comment: > > Yeah, we've got another dummy named Fred living here in Memphis. Fred Smith, > founder and CAO of a little company known as FedEx > > You liberals are skeered to death of Fred "The Great", cause he's agonna be > our next komannder n chef, er sumpin lak dat. > > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Liberals are Very Afraid of FRED
OT flamebait over here, please. On 8/12/07, John Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Washington Post has an article today which attempts to say the Fred > Thompson is stupid because of his name, and after all, he IS from THE SOUTH. > > Liberals- go figure. And this article is from a woman named Monica. Here's > an excerpt and a comment I posted on their website: > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/11/AR2007081101 > 204.html > > Fred, Fred, Fred: Thompson's Challenge Has a Name > > By Monica Hesse > Washington Post Staff Writer > Sunday, August 12, 2007; Page D01 > > In the swampy soup of hopefuls for the 2008 presidential election, there is > a man with a funny name. (No, not that one.) > > We're thinking of the one named Fred (Thompson). > > > Fred Thompson is weighing a run for president -- with a name that doesn't > get much respect. (By Rick Gershon -- Getty Images) > > Say it out loud. Do it. Fred. Fred. In the South, Fray-ud. > > Fur-red-duh. > > It has the tonal quality of something being dropped on the floor, something > heavy and damp-ish. > > Waterlogged paper towel. > > Fred. > > The phonetics of the name seem integral to its image problem: On > Urbandictionary.com, a "Fred" is defined as "a person who does stupid, > annoying, or idiotic things" (Fred Flintstone, Fred Mertz). The best-case > descriptors a Fred can hope for are terms like well-intentioned, > predictable, benign (Fred Rogers). > > There has never before been a major presidential candidate named Fred. There > were two Alfreds, in 1928 and 1936. But Alfred, being all British and > Batman-y, is not the same. > > Then, out of almost nowhere, came Thompson, who is transcending the notion > of Fred. > > Recent media accounts of the guy (who has not yet officially announced his > candidacy) would have us believe that being a Fred means Law & Orderly > sex-in-a-suit, a name exuding such flypaper pheromones that people find > themselves helplessly drawn in. Chris Matthews dedicated three minutes of a > recent "Hardball" to exploring Thompson's sex appeal. London's Sunday Times > last month interviewed a bevy of his ex-girlfriends, all of whom have drunk > the Fred-Aid: "He's majestic," said country singer/Fredophile Lorrie Morgan. > "Women love a soft place to lay and a strong pair of hands to hold us." > > > My comment: > > Yeah, we've got another dummy named Fred living here in Memphis. Fred Smith, > founder and CAO of a little company known as FedEx > > You liberals are skeered to death of Fred "The Great", cause he's agonna be > our next komannder n chef, er sumpin lak dat. > > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.