Re: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-08-04 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions

On 2017-08-04 15:17, Ted Roche wrote:

On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 2:09 PM,
 wrote:

Next step I guess is to use the "Trusted Adapter" tip that Dave gave.  
I'm
just waiting for the user to call me back.  Apparently there's no 
internet

connection on that machine so I can't remotely connect.


Wait, wait! There's no internet connection on the machine, and...
they're having trouble sending email?

Hmmm...


She's going to do a
FaceTime call with me.  Ugh.  This sounds like I'll need a beer 
tonight.


Yep!



Network buddy of mine at hockey tonight said that they've probably got 
port 80 blocked on that server (Small Business 2003 Server, I found out) 
as most savvy shops don't let people surf the web on the server.  Makes 
sense.  Plan next week is to get its IP address, and then use RDP from 
her workstation to remotely connect that way (all the while I'm using 
TeamViewer from my machine).


Trying to get this fixed, because her current vendor is a do-nothing 
kind of guy, and Corporate doesn't want to bother with this old app; but 
I say "Yes, it CAN work!"  Her pain currently is that she has to 
MANUALLY EMAIL 78+ INVOICES WEEKLY (or Monthly?  can't recall at this 
moment) whereas if this was working again, she could send all 78+ out of 
the app with just a couple clicks.


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Re: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-08-04 Thread Ted Roche
On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 2:09 PM,
 wrote:

> Next step I guess is to use the "Trusted Adapter" tip that Dave gave.  I'm
> just waiting for the user to call me back.  Apparently there's no internet
> connection on that machine so I can't remotely connect.

Wait, wait! There's no internet connection on the machine, and...
they're having trouble sending email?

Hmmm...

> She's going to do a
> FaceTime call with me.  Ugh.  This sounds like I'll need a beer tonight.

Yep!


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Re: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-08-04 Thread Fred Taylor
Only one?

Fred

On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 11:09 AM, <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:

> .  This sounds like I'll need a beer tonight.
>
>


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Re: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-08-04 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions

On 2017-08-01 15:58, Ted Roche wrote:

On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 2:45 PM,
 wrote:


I also get that error OUTSIDE of the application trying to email.  I 
created
a test.txt file on the desktop, right-click and say "Send to Mail 
Recipient"
and I get this message.  I go into the Default Programs and Outlook 
2016 is
listed as the default mail program, so not sure why it's saying there 
is

none.



Ace troubleshooting, there, Mike! Not a Fox problem. Searching on that
exact error message on Google yields a number of good suggestions.



Well, uninstalled (unintentionally!  I tried to run a Repair and it just 
removed all of it apparently...ugh) and reinstalled Office365 and now I 
can right-click and the Send to Mail Recipient works; however, the 
non-MS app still fails.  See https://www.screencast.com/t/na2eAK0FtB


This failed using Simple MAPI and Extended MAPI.  (Those are my only 2 
choices and 1 other which is directly with SMTP, but that fails too.)


Next step I guess is to use the "Trusted Adapter" tip that Dave gave.  
I'm just waiting for the user to call me back.  Apparently there's no 
internet connection on that machine so I can't remotely connect.  She's 
going to do a FaceTime call with me.  Ugh.  This sounds like I'll need a 
beer tonight.


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RE: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-08-02 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions

On 2017-08-02 03:44, Dave Crozier wrote:

The workstation IP address... it becomes trusted by Exchange.

Dave



Great..thanks, Dave.  Now I just have to get access to her Exchange 
server (although she isn't savvy about computers at all and is half-way 
across the US from me).


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RE: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-08-02 Thread Dave Crozier
The workstation IP address... it becomes trusted by Exchange.

Dave

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On 2017-07-26 04:27, Dave Crozier wrote:
> In Exchange you can set up a trusted adapter (IP address) that will 
> accept SMTP directly into the mailserver either authenticated or 
> unauthenticated.
> 
> Dave


Dave -- this is out of my normal zone.  Is that IP address the workstation's IP 
address, or what/where?

tia,
--Mike


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Re: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-08-01 Thread Philip Borkholder

Hi Mike

I've seen that error before in my MAPI emailing programs on new 
workstations.


When Office is installed via a non-DVD method, then the WIN.INI file 
does not always get updated for MAPI.


Try adding this to that Windows 10 file:

C:\Windows\win.ini


[Mail]
CMCDLLNAME32=mapi32.dll
CMC=1
MAPI=1
MAPIX=1
MAPIXVER=1.0.0.1
OLEMessaging=1



On 8/1/2017 2:45 PM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:

On 2017-07-26 11:06, Alan Bourke wrote:

It offered SMTP, MAPI, and Extended
 MAPI.


If you can make it use Extended MAPI then you shouldn't have an issue
sending with Outlook.



computer specs:  Windows 10 Professional, 64-bit

I tried using Simple OR Extended MAPI but I get this error: 
https://www.screencast.com/t/OR1m3sOj4I


I also get that error OUTSIDE of the application trying to email. I 
created a test.txt file on the desktop, right-click and say "Send to 
Mail Recipient" and I get this message.  I go into the Default 
Programs and Outlook 2016 is listed as the default mail program, so 
not sure why it's saying there is none.


Perhaps I should try CCleaner to clean up the registry?


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Re: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-08-01 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions

On 2017-08-01 15:58, Ted Roche wrote:

On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 2:45 PM,
 wrote:


I also get that error OUTSIDE of the application trying to email.  I 
created
a test.txt file on the desktop, right-click and say "Send to Mail 
Recipient"
and I get this message.  I go into the Default Programs and Outlook 
2016 is
listed as the default mail program, so not sure why it's saying there 
is

none.



Ace troubleshooting, there, Mike! Not a Fox problem. Searching on that
exact error message on Google yields a number of good suggestions.



Thanks!  I know the code behind the scenes is using a ShellExecute to 
launch the native Mailing program.  I tried the Default Programs tip 
already as mentioned above.  Will see if some others apply.


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Re: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-08-01 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions

On 2017-08-01 15:42, Alan Bourke wrote:

CCleaner to me is the nuclear option with any problem.

It's more likely Win 10 trying to pimp it's crappy Windows Store apps.

Is it 32-bit Outlook?

Have you tried
http://www.officetooltips.com/office/tips/how_to_modify_default_mail_client_in_windows_10.html



Not sure if 32- or 64-bit Outlook.  Yes, I did try the File Association 
in Default Programs/Apps a few times. It says "Outlook 2016" yet when I 
right-click on a file in Explorer and say "Send to Mail Recipient" it 
still says that nothing is defined as the mail program as that 
screenshot showed.


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Re: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-08-01 Thread Ted Roche
On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 2:45 PM,
 wrote:
>
> I also get that error OUTSIDE of the application trying to email.  I created
> a test.txt file on the desktop, right-click and say "Send to Mail Recipient"
> and I get this message.  I go into the Default Programs and Outlook 2016 is
> listed as the default mail program, so not sure why it's saying there is
> none.
>

Ace troubleshooting, there, Mike! Not a Fox problem. Searching on that
exact error message on Google yields a number of good suggestions.

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Re: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-08-01 Thread Alan Bourke
CCleaner to me is the nuclear option with any problem.

It's more likely Win 10 trying to pimp it's crappy Windows Store apps.

Is it 32-bit Outlook?

Have you tried
http://www.officetooltips.com/office/tips/how_to_modify_default_mail_client_in_windows_10.html


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On Tue, 1 Aug 2017, at 07:45 PM,
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:
> On 2017-07-26 11:06, Alan Bourke wrote:
> >> It offered SMTP, MAPI, and Extended
> >>  MAPI.
> > 
> > If you can make it use Extended MAPI then you shouldn't have an issue
> > sending with Outlook.
> 
> 
> computer specs:  Windows 10 Professional, 64-bit
> 
> I tried using Simple OR Extended MAPI but I get this error:  
> https://www.screencast.com/t/OR1m3sOj4I
> 
> I also get that error OUTSIDE of the application trying to email.  I 
> created a test.txt file on the desktop, right-click and say "Send to 
> Mail Recipient" and I get this message.  I go into the Default Programs 
> and Outlook 2016 is listed as the default mail program, so not sure why 
> it's saying there is none.
> 
> Perhaps I should try CCleaner to clean up the registry?
> 
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RE: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-08-01 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions

On 2017-07-26 04:27, Dave Crozier wrote:

In Exchange you can set up a trusted adapter (IP address) that will
accept SMTP directly into the mailserver either authenticated or
unauthenticated.

Dave



Dave -- this is out of my normal zone.  Is that IP address the 
workstation's IP address, or what/where?


tia,
--Mike


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Re: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-08-01 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions

On 2017-07-26 11:06, Alan Bourke wrote:

It offered SMTP, MAPI, and Extended
 MAPI.


If you can make it use Extended MAPI then you shouldn't have an issue
sending with Outlook.



computer specs:  Windows 10 Professional, 64-bit

I tried using Simple OR Extended MAPI but I get this error:  
https://www.screencast.com/t/OR1m3sOj4I


I also get that error OUTSIDE of the application trying to email.  I 
created a test.txt file on the desktop, right-click and say "Send to 
Mail Recipient" and I get this message.  I go into the Default Programs 
and Outlook 2016 is listed as the default mail program, so not sure why 
it's saying there is none.


Perhaps I should try CCleaner to clean up the registry?

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Re: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-08-01 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions

On 2017-07-25 13:35, Alan Bourke wrote:

You may be confusing this with when the Outlook security model started
throwing up an 'allow/deny' confirmation when an external programme
attempts to create a message using Simple MAPI. A kludgy way around 
that

is to install a utility called ClickYes which silently closes the
Outlook dialog. A better way is to use something other than Simple 
MAPI.

SMTP has nothing to do with Outlook, you're just connecting directly to
a mail server (Exchange, whatever).
Hosted Exchange on Office 365 does have limits on the rate at which you
can submit emails and the number of submissions. This is to stop bulk
emailing. If you want to do that, use Sendgrid or Mailjet etc.



Update:  client is using Exchange server it looks like, and locally 
Outlook 2016.  When I researched ClickYes above, it looks like that is 
for OLDER versions of Outlook.


???

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Re: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-07-31 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions

On 2017-07-31 10:41, Philip Borkholder wrote:

Hi Mike,

Is the application you're referring to Sage PRO ERP (Accpac Pro
Series, SBT Pro Series?)

If so, we ran into this same problem here with some installations of
Outlook 2016.

i simply changed the automatically send SMTP commands to prompt for
the mail and it worked.

.olemessage.Send(.T.)

It's a little bit slower than being able to automatically send the
email but it was a solution.

Let me know if it is and I can help.



Hi Philip,

No, it's not that app.  It's an app from Sylvan Learning that I worked 
on back in 2007-2010.


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Re: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-07-31 Thread Philip Borkholder

Hi Mike,

Is the application you're referring to Sage PRO ERP (Accpac Pro Series, 
SBT Pro Series?)


If so, we ran into this same problem here with some installations of 
Outlook 2016.


i simply changed the automatically send SMTP commands to prompt for the 
mail and it worked.


.olemessage.Send(.T.)

It's a little bit slower than being able to automatically send the email 
but it was a solution.


Let me know if it is and I can help.

Philip B.
Vicksburg, MI

On 7/25/2017 1:12 PM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:
My client has Outlook 2016.  At some point in the past, the Outlook 
version they had prior worked with the application that uses SMTP to 
send emails from it.  I thought I recalled Microsoft tightening 
security over the years but that there was some (3rd party?) utility 
to get around the increased security blockage.  Does anyone remember 
that and can comment on it?


Thanks.


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Re: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-07-27 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions

On 2017-07-26 19:07, Alan Bourke wrote:

What Stephen was getting at was that whether you're using SQL Server as
the database or not you can call a stored procedure in it to send
emails.



thx!

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Re: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-07-26 Thread Alan Bourke
What Stephen was getting at was that whether you're using SQL Server as
the database or not you can call a stored procedure in it to send
emails.

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On Wed, 26 Jul 2017, at 07:57 PM,
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:
> On 2017-07-26 11:07, Stephen Russell wrote:
> > If they were using SQL Server you could enable SQL Mail and from VFP 
> > hit a
> > sproc in SQL Server that sends everything you need.
> > 
> > We use it internally for SPAM to ourselves about all the stuff that 
> > should
> > be happening and isn't.  As well as an email that is an alert about 
> > last
> > nights DW run is now available for use.
> > 
> 
> It's not SQLServer; it's a VFP9 app.
> 
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Re: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-07-26 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions

On 2017-07-26 11:06, Alan Bourke wrote:

It offered SMTP, MAPI, and Extended
 MAPI.


If you can make it use Extended MAPI then you shouldn't have an issue
sending with Outlook.



Hi Alan,

Good to know.  Her config screen says she's using Simple MAPI.

--Mike


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Re: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-07-26 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions

On 2017-07-26 11:07, Stephen Russell wrote:
If they were using SQL Server you could enable SQL Mail and from VFP 
hit a

sproc in SQL Server that sends everything you need.

We use it internally for SPAM to ourselves about all the stuff that 
should
be happening and isn't.  As well as an email that is an alert about 
last

nights DW run is now available for use.



It's not SQLServer; it's a VFP9 app.

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RE: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-07-26 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions

Ok I'll look into that.  Thanks.

My Plan A was to simply use something like Thunderbird and integrate her 
application with that, as I know that worked as some point in time.


--Mike


On 2017-07-26 11:02, Dave Crozier wrote:

Mike,
Trusted adapters are for sending OUT so yes, I think you are!!!

Dave

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On 2017-07-26 04:27, Dave Crozier wrote:

In Exchange you can set up a trusted adapter (IP address) that will
accept SMTP directly into the mailserver either authenticated or
unauthenticated.



...but this is for SENDING email OUT, Dave.  What you're saying above
sounds like something for INCOMING mail.  Plus, I don't know if
they're using MS Exchange.

Am I misunderstanding?


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Re: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-07-26 Thread Stephen Russell
If they were using SQL Server you could enable SQL Mail and from VFP hit a
sproc in SQL Server that sends everything you need.

We use it internally for SPAM to ourselves about all the stuff that should
be happening and isn't.  As well as an email that is an alert about last
nights DW run is now available for use.



On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 9:57 AM, <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:

> On 2017-07-26 04:27, Dave Crozier wrote:
>
>> In Exchange you can set up a trusted adapter (IP address) that will
>> accept SMTP directly into the mailserver either authenticated or
>> unauthenticated.
>>
>
>
> ...but this is for SENDING email OUT, Dave.  What you're saying above
> sounds like something for INCOMING mail.  Plus, I don't know if they're
> using MS Exchange.
>
> Am I misunderstanding?
>
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Re: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-07-26 Thread Alan Bourke
> It offered SMTP, MAPI, and Extended 
>  MAPI. 

If you can make it use Extended MAPI then you shouldn't have an issue
sending with Outlook.

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RE: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-07-26 Thread Dave Crozier
Mike,
Trusted adapters are for sending OUT so yes, I think you are!!!

Dave

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On 2017-07-26 04:27, Dave Crozier wrote:
> In Exchange you can set up a trusted adapter (IP address) that will 
> accept SMTP directly into the mailserver either authenticated or 
> unauthenticated.


...but this is for SENDING email OUT, Dave.  What you're saying above sounds 
like something for INCOMING mail.  Plus, I don't know if they're using MS 
Exchange.

Am I misunderstanding?

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RE: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-07-26 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions

On 2017-07-26 04:27, Dave Crozier wrote:

In Exchange you can set up a trusted adapter (IP address) that will
accept SMTP directly into the mailserver either authenticated or
unauthenticated.



...but this is for SENDING email OUT, Dave.  What you're saying above 
sounds like something for INCOMING mail.  Plus, I don't know if they're 
using MS Exchange.


Am I misunderstanding?

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RE: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-07-26 Thread Dave Crozier
In Exchange you can set up a trusted adapter (IP address) that will accept SMTP 
directly into the mailserver either authenticated or unauthenticated.

Dave


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On 2017-07-25 13:56, Ted Roche wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 1:12 PM,
>  wrote:
> 
>> My client has Outlook 2016.  At some point in the past, the Outlook 
>> version they had prior worked with the application that uses SMTP to 
>> send emails from it.  I thought I recalled Microsoft tightening 
>> security over the years but that there was some (3rd party?) utility 
>> to get around the increased security blockage.  Does anyone remember 
>> that and can comment on it?
> 
> I do remember it. In fact, I wrote about it quite a bit, a while ago, 
> and even presented it at conferences. After teaching Outlook 
> Automation, I then did a series on Email Without Outlook, since 
> automating outlook is indistinguishable, in MSFT's view, from malware.
> 
> If your app is using SMTP, it shouldn't need Outlook, so what are you 
> really doing, and what are you getting for error messages?


This isn't my app.  It's from their Corporate affiliate.  However, I used to 
work for that Corporate entity at one time and as such, I recall vaguely the 
idea behind the code.  It offered SMTP, MAPI, and Extended MAPI.  I'm not sure 
at this time of writing what the client is using but will find out.

So in short:  this isn't code I can change.  I am trying to make it work with 
the code from nearly 8 years ago.

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Re: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-07-25 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions

On 2017-07-25 13:56, Ted Roche wrote:

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 1:12 PM,
 wrote:

My client has Outlook 2016.  At some point in the past, the Outlook 
version
they had prior worked with the application that uses SMTP to send 
emails
from it.  I thought I recalled Microsoft tightening security over the 
years
but that there was some (3rd party?) utility to get around the 
increased

security blockage.  Does anyone remember that and can comment on it?


I do remember it. In fact, I wrote about it quite a bit, a while ago,
and even presented it at conferences. After teaching Outlook
Automation, I then did a series on Email Without Outlook, since
automating outlook is indistinguishable, in MSFT's view, from malware.

If your app is using SMTP, it shouldn't need Outlook, so what are you
really doing, and what are you getting for error messages?



This isn't my app.  It's from their Corporate affiliate.  However, I 
used to work for that Corporate entity at one time and as such, I recall 
vaguely the idea behind the code.  It offered SMTP, MAPI, and Extended 
MAPI.  I'm not sure at this time of writing what the client is using but 
will find out.


So in short:  this isn't code I can change.  I am trying to make it work 
with the code from nearly 8 years ago.


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Re: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-07-25 Thread Alan Bourke
Also Craig Boyd's Vfpexmapi.fll will quite happily send messages via
Outlook because it uses Extended MAPI. The problem is with Simple MAPI.

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On Tue, 25 Jul 2017, at 06:12 PM,
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:
> My client has Outlook 2016.  At some point in the past, the Outlook 
> version they had prior worked with the application that uses SMTP to 
> send emails from it.  I thought I recalled Microsoft tightening security 
> over the years but that there was some (3rd party?) utility to get 
> around the increased security blockage.  Does anyone remember that and 
> can comment on it?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-07-25 Thread Ted Roche
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 1:12 PM,
 wrote:

> My client has Outlook 2016.  At some point in the past, the Outlook version
> they had prior worked with the application that uses SMTP to send emails
> from it.  I thought I recalled Microsoft tightening security over the years
> but that there was some (3rd party?) utility to get around the increased
> security blockage.  Does anyone remember that and can comment on it?

I do remember it. In fact, I wrote about it quite a bit, a while ago,
and even presented it at conferences. After teaching Outlook
Automation, I then did a series on Email Without Outlook, since
automating outlook is indistinguishable, in MSFT's view, from malware.

If your app is using SMTP, it shouldn't need Outlook, so what are you
really doing, and what are you getting for error messages?



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Re: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-07-25 Thread Alan Bourke
It does.

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On Tue, 25 Jul 2017, at 06:29 PM, Fred Taylor wrote:
> Redemption?  Haven't used it since Office 2007, so couldn't tell you if
> it
> works in 2016 or not,
> 
> Fred
> 
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 10:12 AM, <
> mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:
> 
> > My client has Outlook 2016.  At some point in the past, the Outlook
> > version they had prior worked with the application that uses SMTP to send
> > emails from it.  I thought I recalled Microsoft tightening security over
> > the years but that there was some (3rd party?) utility to get around the
> > increased security blockage.  Does anyone remember that and can comment on
> > it?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
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Re: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-07-25 Thread Alan Bourke
You may be confusing this with when the Outlook security model started
throwing up an 'allow/deny' confirmation when an external programme
attempts to create a message using Simple MAPI. A kludgy way around that
is to install a utility called ClickYes which silently closes the
Outlook dialog. A better way is to use something other than Simple MAPI.
SMTP has nothing to do with Outlook, you're just connecting directly to
a mail server (Exchange, whatever).
Hosted Exchange on Office 365 does have limits on the rate at which you
can submit emails and the number of submissions. This is to stop bulk
emailing. If you want to do that, use Sendgrid or Mailjet etc.

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On Tue, 25 Jul 2017, at 06:12 PM,
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:
> My client has Outlook 2016.  At some point in the past, the Outlook 
> version they had prior worked with the application that uses SMTP to 
> send emails from it.  I thought I recalled Microsoft tightening security 
> over the years but that there was some (3rd party?) utility to get 
> around the increased security blockage.  Does anyone remember that and 
> can comment on it?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-07-25 Thread Fred Taylor
Redemption?  Haven't used it since Office 2007, so couldn't tell you if it
works in 2016 or not,

Fred

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 10:12 AM, <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:

> My client has Outlook 2016.  At some point in the past, the Outlook
> version they had prior worked with the application that uses SMTP to send
> emails from it.  I thought I recalled Microsoft tightening security over
> the years but that there was some (3rd party?) utility to get around the
> increased security blockage.  Does anyone remember that and can comment on
> it?
>
> Thanks.
>
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Outlook 2016 security no longer allowing VFP app to send emails as it did in the past

2017-07-25 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
My client has Outlook 2016.  At some point in the past, the Outlook 
version they had prior worked with the application that uses SMTP to 
send emails from it.  I thought I recalled Microsoft tightening security 
over the years but that there was some (3rd party?) utility to get 
around the increased security blockage.  Does anyone remember that and 
can comment on it?


Thanks.

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