RE: [NF] Do laptop batteries wear out faster in the cold?
I ran my first 10K last year in the spring and then went on to run a couple of 1/2 marathons in late summer. I want to keep up the running this year, so I purchased a treadmill so I can continue through the winter. I live in a rural area (south of Ottawa), so along with the snow and ice and shorter days, I wasn't willing to risk running outside on a regular basis this time of year. Good luck with your future runs! Kevin O'Shea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lou Syracuse Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 5:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Do laptop batteries wear out faster in the cold? My wife and I ran our first 5K yesterday at 7:30AM, in shorts and T-shirts. We didn't do too bad for a first run. Next one is in 6 weeks - looking to knock 5 minutes off our time. :) I LOVE being in Southern California. :) LS ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Do laptop batteries wear out faster in the cold?
How old is the battery? My iBook G4 battery would work for 3 - 5 hours depending on the use before going dead on me, but I also had to replace the battery after the first year. Justin On 2/5/07, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So there I am, in the basement, wearing my four pair o' corduroys, dinking around on the wind trainer. I have my Mac set up on a stand in front of the bike to watch whatever trash Netflix has heaved my way recently. I've been getting about 70-75 minutes of DVD playing time. Today it bailed on me at 65 minutes. The only difference (battery was fully charged from last night) is that it's about 15F in the basement this morning, up from it's normal 27 or 28. (Outside it's 12 below, F. All Milwaukee schools were closed. The wimps.) Of course, I didn't find out that everyone else was going to be sleeping in until after I had gotten up at oh-dark-freezin'-thirty, stretched, dressed, and lugged everything down to the basement. Ugh. Should I be getting more than 75 minutes on a Mac PowerBook G4 battery for playing DVD? Walter Mossberg keeps boasting about how he gets 3 or 5 hours on his 'endurance' tests, but I suspect that he falls asleep halfway through his tests, and doesn't realize that the battery is hibernating on him without him knowing it. He's really old, you know. Same high school graduating class as Ted, last I heard. Whil [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Do laptop batteries wear out faster in the cold?
Cold weather definitely impacts battery life. Think about how much harder it is to start the car on cold days, and how the battery doesn't seem to have the umph it did when it was warmer. It's cold down here too, I think it's 28 degrees Fahrenheit right now, b (hahahahaha) John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whil Hentzen (Pro*) Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 10:19 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [NF] Do laptop batteries wear out faster in the cold? So there I am, in the basement, wearing my four pair o' corduroys, dinking around on the wind trainer. I have my Mac set up on a stand in front of the bike to watch whatever trash Netflix has heaved my way recently. I've been getting about 70-75 minutes of DVD playing time. Today it bailed on me at 65 minutes. The only difference (battery was fully charged from last night) is that it's about 15F in the basement this morning, up from it's normal 27 or 28. (Outside it's 12 below, F. All Milwaukee schools were closed. The wimps.) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Do laptop batteries wear out faster in the cold?
On 2/5/07, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should I be getting more than 75 minutes on a Mac PowerBook G4 battery for playing DVD? Last I heard, the newer batteries (Lithium and NiMH) work better and longer with shallow discharges rather than full ones, so it might be worth figuring out how to power your Mac rather than fully discharging the batteries. He's really old, you know. Same high school graduating class as Ted, last I heard. Assuming I'd graduated at all, of course. IIRC, I went off on a wagon train west at age 15 to settle the new territories... I swear I'm not making this up. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Do laptop batteries wear out faster in the cold?
Whil, The basic answer is yes on two fronts. One of which is demonstrated here in the second graph down: http://www.mpoweruk.com/performance.htm Also friction will increase on metal surfaces the tighter the contact fit is. On hard disks particularly the drag factor of spinning up hard disks can increase dramatically when cold. Solution: Move to a warmer climate! Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whil Hentzen (Pro*) Sent: 05 February 2007 16:19 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [NF] Do laptop batteries wear out faster in the cold? So there I am, in the basement, wearing my four pair o' corduroys, dinking around on the wind trainer. I have my Mac set up on a stand in front of the bike to watch whatever trash Netflix has heaved my way recently. I've been getting about 70-75 minutes of DVD playing time. Today it bailed on me at 65 minutes. The only difference (battery was fully charged from last night) is that it's about 15F in the basement this morning, up from it's normal 27 or 28. (Outside it's 12 below, F. All Milwaukee schools were closed. The wimps.) Of course, I didn't find out that everyone else was going to be sleeping in until after I had gotten up at oh-dark-freezin'-thirty, stretched, dressed, and lugged everything down to the basement. Ugh. Should I be getting more than 75 minutes on a Mac PowerBook G4 battery for playing DVD? Walter Mossberg keeps boasting about how he gets 3 or 5 hours on his 'endurance' tests, but I suspect that he falls asleep halfway through his tests, and doesn't realize that the battery is hibernating on him without him knowing it. He's really old, you know. Same high school graduating class as Ted, last I heard. Whil [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Do laptop batteries wear out faster in the cold?
Whil, And I forgot to add that the internal resistance of the battery will increase with the drop in temperature which is one of the main reasons for decreased performance as there is more internal energy loss i.e heat generated. Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whil Hentzen (Pro*) Sent: 05 February 2007 16:19 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [NF] Do laptop batteries wear out faster in the cold? So there I am, in the basement, wearing my four pair o' corduroys, dinking around on the wind trainer. I have my Mac set up on a stand in front of the bike to watch whatever trash Netflix has heaved my way recently. I've been getting about 70-75 minutes of DVD playing time. Today it bailed on me at 65 minutes. The only difference (battery was fully charged from last night) is that it's about 15F in the basement this morning, up from it's normal 27 or 28. (Outside it's 12 below, F. All Milwaukee schools were closed. The wimps.) Of course, I didn't find out that everyone else was going to be sleeping in until after I had gotten up at oh-dark-freezin'-thirty, stretched, dressed, and lugged everything down to the basement. Ugh. Should I be getting more than 75 minutes on a Mac PowerBook G4 battery for playing DVD? Walter Mossberg keeps boasting about how he gets 3 or 5 hours on his 'endurance' tests, but I suspect that he falls asleep halfway through his tests, and doesn't realize that the battery is hibernating on him without him knowing it. He's really old, you know. Same high school graduating class as Ted, last I heard. Whil [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Do laptop batteries wear out faster in the cold?
On Monday, February 05, 2007 11:33 AM Dave Crozier wrote: snipped Solution: Move to a warmer climate! Sure, move the Dallas, TX where it snowed a couple inches of snow last week. With this Global Warming it would be warmer to move to the North Pole where all the icebergs are melting! (Quickly moving off topic...) David L. Crooks ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Do laptop batteries wear out faster in the cold?
Dave Crozier wrote: Whil, And I forgot to add that the internal resistance of the battery will increase with the drop in temperature which is one of the main reasons for decreased performance as there is more internal energy loss i.e heat generated. I am shocked, I tell you, shocked, that not a single one on this list has come up with the answer _I_ decided on Stay out of the damn basement until it warms up - go sicherbut down on an easy chair with a bowl full of Doritos and 48oz miller-lite, and watch that Go-Daddy commercial 15 or 20 more times. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Do laptop batteries wear out faster in the cold?
think it's 28 degrees Fahrenheit right now, b (hahahahaha) This morning we were at -1 F. Not expected to go up much today either. Last night (Super Bowl) our entire neighborhood lost power, so they missed the last hour or so of the game (500 homes affected). We were out when the power went out, but when we came home our lights were on, computers and network equipment never missed a beat. We have a 15kw natural gas fueld auto-start generator. We had it installed last year February, and had to wait almost a year to get a Live Test! It worked like a champ, although I wonder how much gas it burned off over the 3+ hours of run time. Hardly matters, we had power! Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of john harvey Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 11:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Do laptop batteries wear out faster in the cold? Cold weather definitely impacts battery life. Think about how much harder it is to start the car on cold days, and how the battery doesn't seem to have the umph it did when it was warmer. It's cold down here too, I think it's 28 degrees Fahrenheit right now, b (hahahahaha) John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whil Hentzen (Pro*) Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 10:19 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [NF] Do laptop batteries wear out faster in the cold? So there I am, in the basement, wearing my four pair o' corduroys, dinking around on the wind trainer. I have my Mac set up on a stand in front of the bike to watch whatever trash Netflix has heaved my way recently. I've been getting about 70-75 minutes of DVD playing time. Today it bailed on me at 65 minutes. The only difference (battery was fully charged from last night) is that it's about 15F in the basement this morning, up from it's normal 27 or 28. (Outside it's 12 below, F. All Milwaukee schools were closed. The wimps.) [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Do laptop batteries wear out faster in the cold?
Justin Darnell wrote: How old is the battery? Oh, I dunno. How long have I been asking silly Mac questions on the list? My iBook G4 battery would work for 3 - 5 hours depending on the use before going dead on me, but I also had to replace the battery after the first year. I bet this one is two years old by now. The G5s had just come out when I got this one, I think. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Do laptop batteries wear out faster in the cold?
Solution: Move to a warmer climate! Like UK? John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Do laptop batteries wear out faster in the cold?
On Monday, February 05, 2007 11:47 AM Gil wrote: This morning we were at -1 F. Not expected to go up much today either. Last night (Super Bowl) our entire neighborhood lost power, so they missed the last hour or so of the game (500 homes affected). We were out when the power went out, but when we came home our lights were on, computers and network equipment never missed a beat. We have a 15kw natural gas fueld auto-start generator. We had it installed last year February, and had to wait almost a year to get a Live Test! It worked like a champ, although I wonder how much gas it burned off over the 3+ hours of run time. Hardly matters, we had power! Your neighborhood didn't miss much! Chicago has to replace that QB boy with someone who can handle the pressure. Also, seemed like most of the good commercials were at the beginning. David L. Crooks ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Do laptop batteries wear out faster in the cold?
Milwaukee sounds like a warmer climate - here in Ottawa it was -39 this morning with the wind chill. The kids went off to school as usual. Kevin O'Shea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Weller Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 11:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Do laptop batteries wear out faster in the cold? Solution: Move to a warmer climate! Like UK? John Weller ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Do laptop batteries wear out faster in the cold?
Coldest I have been as an adult was Eau Claire, WI. Two winters in a row it hit -45F, and when wind chill was added in it was like -65F. Very dangerous to go out without adequate protection for ALL skin surfaces. Lots of folks were treated for flash frostbite, including eyes. At those temps, especially with wind chill impact, it only takes a moment to get a flash frostbite. I also had to use an engine block heater to keep my car engine relatively warm enough to crank over and start. At the office we had hitching posts with electrical outlets for the heaters. And, as mentioned earlier (back on track), at those temps the Cold Cranking Reserve capacity of a car battery was heavily impacted. Only the largest and freshest of batteries would crank an engine over and start a car up. I always got a new battery before winter hit, just to make certain I would not be stranded - hopefully. Even at that when the battery was -45F (engine was warmer, but not the battery itself) the engine cranked over very slowly. I do not recall how low a temp the battery electrolyte would freeze at, but with a charged battery with lots of sulfuric acid solution it was not a problem at -45F. A partially discharged battery would have a weaker acid solution, and could freeze, spilling acid all over the engine compartment (or trunk for some cars). Glad to be in +5F (current temp out here), it is kinda warm outside g... Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin O'Shea Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 12:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Do laptop batteries wear out faster in the cold? Milwaukee sounds like a warmer climate - here in Ottawa it was -39 this morning with the wind chill. The kids went off to school as usual. Kevin O'Shea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Weller Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 11:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Do laptop batteries wear out faster in the cold? Solution: Move to a warmer climate! Like UK? John Weller [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Do laptop batteries wear out faster in the cold?
My wife and I ran our first 5K yesterday at 7:30AM, in shorts and T-shirts. We didn't do too bad for a first run. Next one is in 6 weeks - looking to knock 5 minutes off our time. :) I LOVE being in Southern California. :) LS -Original Message- From: mrgmhale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Coldest I have been as an adult was Eau Claire, WI. Two winters in a row it hit -45F, and when wind chill was added in it was like -65F. Very dangerous to go out without adequate protection for ALL skin surfaces. .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin O'Shea Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 12:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Do laptop batteries wear out faster in the cold? Milwaukee sounds like a warmer climate - here in Ottawa it was -39 this morning with the wind chill. The kids went off to school as usual. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the originator of the message. This footer also confirms that this e-mail message has been scanned for the presence of computer viruses. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifies and with authority, states them to be the views of Merle Norman Cosmetics. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Do laptop batteries wear out faster in the cold?
When I lived in San Bernardino (north end, of course) I used to run 10k in Loma Linda, part of the Loma Linda Lopers running club. Awesome running through the orange grove lined streets (likely all gone now, that was back in 1982 - 1986 when I was running). What part of SoCal are you in? I still have the house in San Bden, renting it out. Bought it in 1979. You do the math$$ g... Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lou Syracuse Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 5:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Do laptop batteries wear out faster in the cold? My wife and I ran our first 5K yesterday at 7:30AM, in shorts and T-shirts. We didn't do too bad for a first run. Next one is in 6 weeks - looking to knock 5 minutes off our time. :) I LOVE being in Southern California. :) LS -Original Message- From: mrgmhale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Coldest I have been as an adult was Eau Claire, WI. Two winters in a row it hit -45F, and when wind chill was added in it was like -65F. Very dangerous to go out without adequate protection for ALL skin surfaces. .. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin O'Shea Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 12:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Do laptop batteries wear out faster in the cold? Milwaukee sounds like a warmer climate - here in Ottawa it was -39 this morning with the wind chill. The kids went off to school as usual. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the originator of the message. This footer also confirms that this e-mail message has been scanned for the presence of computer viruses. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifies and with authority, states them to be the views of Merle Norman Cosmetics. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
