RE: [NF] Riping from DishNetWork
= Subject: RE: [NF] Riping from DishNetWork = = Why are you going to record Saddams death? = = Stephen Russell I am not a pacifist and I am not a peacenik but I am vehemently opposed to the death penalty. What Saddam did was unquestionably reprehensible and he should be punished in any fitting manner (including sophisticated torture) except death. B+ HALinNY ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Riping from DishNetWork
= Subject: Re: [NF] Riping from DishNetWork = = Hal Kaplan wrote: = taking my 12-year-old VHS copy of The Movie No One Ever = Heard Of and = transferring it to a DVD for (my) posterity? = = I know this can go way OT but can one of you recommend a = good web site = to explain all this stuff? TIA ... I really appreciate it. = = = Lots of info here: = = http://www.videohelp.com/guides = = Jaime Vasquez = Thank you, Jaime. B+ HALinNY ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Riping from DishNetWork
Hal Kaplan wrote: I am not a pacifist and I am not a peacenik but I am vehemently opposed to the death penalty. What Saddam did was unquestionably reprehensible and he should be punished in any fitting manner (including sophisticated torture) except death. [OT] menc'mon...start the New Year correct! ;-) -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Riping from DishNetWork
Hal Kaplan wrote: taking my 12-year-old VHS copy of The Movie No One Ever Heard Of and transferring it to a DVD for (my) posterity? I know this can go way OT but can one of you recommend a good web site to explain all this stuff? TIA ... I really appreciate it. Lots of info here: http://www.videohelp.com/guides HTH Jaime Vasquez ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Charles Hart Enzer, M.D. wrote: How can I burn movies from DishNetWorks onto DVDs. I have a 625 receiver. What is the work around for copy protection. you're joking, right? Matthew S. Jarvis IT Manager Bike Friday - Performance that Packs. www.bikefriday.com 541/687-0487 x140 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Riping from DishNetWork
Of course he is joking. I bet he just wants to see which of his fellow FoxHeads is able and willing to compromise copyright laws. Okay, more seriously, I know how to burn the movies, but I would have to report our activities to the FBI for starters. Cheaper to just pick up the DVD and get a personal use license. Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Matthew Jarvis Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 12:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Riping from DishNetWork Charles Hart Enzer, M.D. wrote: How can I burn movies from DishNetWorks onto DVDs. I have a 625 receiver. What is the work around for copy protection. you're joking, right? Matthew S. Jarvis IT Manager Bike Friday - Performance that Packs. www.bikefriday.com 541/687-0487 x140 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Riping from DishNetWork
= Subject: RE: [NF] Riping from DishNetWork = = Of course he is joking. I bet he just wants to see which of = his fellow FoxHeads is able and willing to compromise = copyright laws. Okay, more seriously, I know how to burn = the movies, but I would have to report our activities to the = FBI for starters. Cheaper to just pick up the DVD and get a = personal use license. = = Gil = What happened to free speech? Since when is it illegal to discuss methods? And what does TIVO do that is not illegal? I am serious. I have not been keeping up with this junk. All I know is that mens rea is essentially not a factor any more; all intentions are dishonorable. Does anyone have the goods on these issues, please? B+ HALinNY ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Riping from DishNetWork
On 12/29/06, Hal Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What happened to free speech? Since when is it illegal to discuss methods? Since the DMCA passed. Or the Sedition Act, depending on what methods you are talking about. And what does TIVO do that is not illegal? Encrypts in in a proprietary format on HDD and doesn't let you copy it freely. Does anyone have the goods on these issues, please? Way off-topic for this forum, but there's plenty of info on the internet, some even correct. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Riping from DishNetWork
Hi, What happened to free speech? Since when is it illegal to discuss methods? Check out the Digital Millenium Copyright Act: Sec. 1201. Circumvention of copyright protection systems (2) No person shall manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide, or otherwise traffic in any technology, product, service, device, component, or part thereof, that-- http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap12.html#1201 -- Christof ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Riping from DishNetWork
Thank you, Christof g... Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christof Wollenhaupt Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 2:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Riping from DishNetWork Hi, What happened to free speech? Since when is it illegal to discuss methods? Check out the Digital Millenium Copyright Act: Sec. 1201. Circumvention of copyright protection systems (2) No person shall manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide, or otherwise traffic in any technology, product, service, device, component, or part thereof, that-- http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap12.html#1201 -- Christof [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Riping from DishNetWork
mrgmhale wrote: Of course he is joking. I bet he just wants to see which of his fellow FoxHeads is able and willing to compromise copyright laws. Okay, more seriously, I know how to burn the movies, but I would have to report our activities to the FBI for starters. Cheaper to just pick up the DVD and get a personal use license. Ahem. One for the DVD player in the den. Another for using with your PC in your office. A third for the kids. A fourth license if you want to take it in the car with you to listen to the soundtrack and let the wife watch on the in-dash player. And a fifth, just in case, because you're not allowed to back your copy up anymore. Damn, guess I'll have to buy the White Album again. Whil (Who remembers when Fair Use didn't mean to put a Fairly Large Amount of Money in the Producer's pocket so you can't Use it anywhere else.) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Riping from DishNetWork
I don't need no stinkin dvd copier. I gotz a pornographic memory and I can recall everthang I ever seed. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whil Hentzen (Pro*) Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 1:32 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Riping from DishNetWork mrgmhale wrote: Of course he is joking. I bet he just wants to see which of his fellow FoxHeads is able and willing to compromise copyright laws. Okay, more seriously, I know how to burn the movies, but I would have to report our activities to the FBI for starters. Cheaper to just pick up the DVD and get a personal use license. Ahem. One for the DVD player in the den. Another for using with your PC in your office. A third for the kids. A fourth license if you want to take it in the car with you to listen to the soundtrack and let the wife watch on the in-dash player. And a fifth, just in case, because you're not allowed to back your copy up anymore. Damn, guess I'll have to buy the White Album again. Whil (Who remembers when Fair Use didn't mean to put a Fairly Large Amount of Money in the Producer's pocket so you can't Use it anywhere else.) [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Riping from DishNetWork
On 12/29/06, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One for the DVD player in the den. Another for using with your PC in your office. A third for the kids. A fourth license if you want to take it in the car with you to listen to the soundtrack and let the wife watch on the in-dash player. And a fifth, just in case, because you're not allowed to back your copy up anymore. I thought you kept all that stuff in a terabyte server in the cellar, er, data center. Dunno how you download it to the car, though... gigabit ethernet to the RAID array in the trunk? -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Riping from DishNetWork
INCOMING!!! Wow! Thank you all for your replies. I knew the DMCA was tough, but I did not think it was that tough. And this stuff applies to making a VCR copy of tonight's PBS Great Performances so I can watch it tomorrow? Or taking my 12-year-old VHS copy of The Movie No One Ever Heard Of and transferring it to a DVD for (my) posterity? I know this can go way OT but can one of you recommend a good web site to explain all this stuff? TIA ... I really appreciate it. B+ HALinNY ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Riping from DishNetWork
= Subject: Re: [NF] Riping from DishNetWork = = = I thought you kept all that stuff in a terabyte server in = the cellar, er, data center. Dunno how you download it to = the car, though... = gigabit ethernet to the RAID array in the trunk? = = Ted Roche I think Whil uses a proprietary WAN (Whil's Alien Network). I noticed that the last time I was within 100 miles of Milwaukee, my car radio was picking up some very strange sounds. It actually sounded like someone drinking beer g. B+ HALinNY ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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On 12/29/06, Hal Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this can go way OT but can one of you recommend a good web site to explain all this stuff? TIA ... I really appreciate it. There's a lot to it. None of these are the Layman's Guide to simple copyright questions. There's got to be one out there... http://www.eff.org/cafe/ http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/openlaw/DVD/ http://creativecommons.org/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright#United_States_copyright_law -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Riping from DishNetWork
= Subject: Re: [NF] Riping from DishNetWork = = There's a lot to it. None of these are the Layman's Guide = to simple copyright questions. There's got to be one out there... = = http://www.eff.org/cafe/ = = http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/openlaw/DVD/ = = http://creativecommons.org/ = = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright#United_States_copyright_law = = Ted Roche Thank you, Ted. Part of the problem is that there is little case law and that, I believe, is due to the fact that the big players who lobbied for the draconian tenor of the law have painted themselves into a corner of sorts and they now realize that they have overdone it. Anyway, looks like some good reading over the next coupladays (that's Farsi for extended weekend). B+ HALinNY ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Riping from DishNetWork
Hal Kaplan wrote: = Subject: RE: [NF] Riping from DishNetWork = = Of course he is joking. I bet he just wants to see which of = his fellow FoxHeads is able and willing to compromise = copyright laws. Okay, more seriously, I know how to burn = the movies, but I would have to report our activities to the = FBI for starters. Cheaper to just pick up the DVD and get a = personal use license. = = Gil = What happened to free speech? Since when is it illegal to discuss methods? And what does TIVO do that is not illegal? My digital recorder has an output for the VCR, ok its RCA cables. But you can take output and burn it, oh and did I get a DVD recorder for Christmas? You can even take an SD card and put it in the device and see the movies or pictures on my TV. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.27/602 - Release Date: 12/25/2006 10:19 AM ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Riping from DishNetWork
Hal Kaplan wrote: INCOMING!!! Wow! Thank you all for your replies. I knew the DMCA was tough, but I did not think it was that tough. And this stuff applies to making a VCR copy of tonight's PBS Great Performances so I can watch it tomorrow? Or taking my 12-year-old VHS copy of The Movie No One Ever Heard Of and transferring it to a DVD for (my) posterity? Why are you going to record Saddams death? Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.27/602 - Release Date: 12/25/2006 10:19 AM ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
